City Agency Hats NOW!!!! (split from Mets Uni Changes)

[Guest Edgy DC]

Is he any relation to Scritti?

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Wow.

That's the absolute opposite of a mensch move, Bud-bagman.

NEW YORK -- Major League Baseball has denied the New York Mets' request to wear baseball caps honoring New York City emergency service departments for their game against the Chicago Cubs on the 10th anniversary of the 2001 terrorist attacks. Joe Torre, MLB's executive vice president for baseball operations, told The Associated Press the decision was made to keep policy consistent throughout baseball and that "certainly, it's not a lack of respect."

[Centerfield]

Hey dumbasses,

Wear them anyway. Fuck MLB. And especially fuck Torre.

Give me a Met that has the balls enough to wear it out there anyway.

[Guest themetfairy]

Worry about uniformity when other cities have been attacked the way New York was.

And DC doesn't count - the Expos weren't there at the time!

[Guest Edgy DC]

Centerfield wrote: Hey dumbasses, Wear them anyway. Fuck MLB. And especially fuck Torre. Give me a Met that has the balls enough to wear it out there anyway.

[Guest 86-Dreamer]

After the conclusion of the pregame ceremony, Howie ripped off a two minute lashing of Selig and MLB for forbidding the agency hats, and for "playing the game at night instead of on a beautiful Sunday afternoon." Thank you Howie, and eff u Bud!

I was surprised Terry didn't send 'em out there anyway with the hats - missed an oppurtunity to really fire up an further unify the team.

[metirish]

I'm not surprised Collins didn't send them out with the hats, I'm sure Wilpon had him in his office, and we know from the past that Wilpon is a big buddy of Selig's and is known to toe the party line.


Should we have seen this coming as the Nats were told not to wear them recently too?

[HahnSolo]

I just wonder how big of a fine they'd be facing that no one wanted to step up and say, fine be damned, I'm doing the right thing. I believe it is in the MLB rules that you can donate any fines to charity...someone might be able to correct me on that.

So where the hats, accept the fine, donate it to Tuesday's Children.

And the Mets would have looked great, both on the field and in perception. Instead they look feeble, which for this organization is all too common.

[Guest 86-Dreamer]

Exactly. But Fred is $25 million in the hole to Bud and apparently forbidden to expose him for the fool that he is. Pathetic.

[metirish]

86-Dreamer wrote: Exactly. But Fred is $25 million in the hole to Bud and apparently forbidden to expose him for the fool that he is. Pathetic.

Had forgotten about that loan, taking all of this into account Wilpon was never going to go against it.Not defending anyone here but it's MLB in my opinion that look pathetic here.

[G-Fafif]

I'm surprised MLB didn't make them wear MFY caps.

[Ceetar]

HahnSolo wrote: And the Mets would have looked great, both on the field and in perception. Instead they look feeble, which for this organization is all too common.

Perception, because the Mets did a lot of wonderful things yesterday, and they wore the caps in the pregame ceremonies and then chose to abide by the boss's policy. Choosing to focus on the one thing that 'went wrong' is unfair to them, and all that other stuff.

I can't help but wonder what would've happened if the Mets (or New Era) had decided in March they wanted different caps than the ones planned, back when they originally got the note that they wouldn't be allowed to wear something different and petitioned for it.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Ceetar wrote: Perception, because the Mets did a lot of wonderful things yesterday, and they wore the caps in the pregame ceremonies and then chose to abide by the boss's policy. Choosing to focus on the one thing that 'went wrong' is unfair to them, and all that other stuff.

Says the guy who didn't want them to wear the caps anyhow.

[Guest Edgy DC]

The league originally told the 2001 Mets that they could not wear the hats during the games, either, but as former Met Todd Zeile remembered for reporters on Sunday, "it was really a collective feeling from everybody in the clubhouse that ... we're going to wear these hats until we can't wear them anymore, until they're ripped off our heads.'"

This isn't about Fred. The owners could have abided by the league wishes, given the players an order to comply and the players could have quite easily defied it. The hats were on hand, they wore them before the game, and they wore them in the dugout.

[Ceetar]

Edgy DC wrote: Perception, because the Mets did a lot of wonderful things yesterday, and they wore the caps in the pregame ceremonies and then chose to abide by the boss's policy. Choosing to focus on the one thing that 'went wrong' is unfair to them, and all that other stuff. Says the guy who didn't want them to wear the caps anyhow.

I also didn't want them to wear the hats they did, (I think it's the same part of the 'slippery slope' argument they used to deny the Mets the FDNY hats.) or move the game to 8:00 so that ESPN could run a 9/11 story with a baseball backdrop.

[Centerfield]

Tell the Mets how you feel:

To: David Newman, Senior Vice President, Marketing & Communications, New York Mets (dnewman@nymets.com)
cc: Adam Rubin (Adam.Rubin@espn.com)

David,

Thank you for your efforts in attempting to get permission to wear the first responder hats for yesterday's game. The pre-game tribute was also extremely well-done.

I will say, though, that I am incredibly disappointed that the hats were not worn during the game. I realize that MLB issued an order, but I thought it was a great chance for the Mets to step up and defy MLB like they did ten years ago. I am reading Todd Zeile's quote today in Adam's article (http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/6958670/new-york-mets-wear-nypd-fdny-hats-9-11-game) and it really sums up what this gesture meant to the players and also to the fans. I thought that the Mets had a great opportunity to show what they were made of, and for the organization to handcuff the players like that is just incredibly disappointing.

Adam, thank you for giving this issue the attention it deserves. I couldn't help but notice Joe Torre's quote: "I certainly understood what they wanted to do in regards to wearing the hats. I used my history with the fact that we were in the World Series 10 years ago."

Joe Torre continues not to get it. The tribute hats have nothing to do with having been in the World Series. It has to do with having been in New York.

[Ceetar]

Maybe the Mets, instead of fighting with their commissioner and creditor, should work with them to get permission to wear the hats next year, and/or into perpetuity. Or does no one care because it 's not an nice round anniversary?

[seawolf17]

Sent.

Double bullshit: Eff you Torre, and eff you Mets for not saying eff you MLB.

[seawolf17]

You know what else bugged the crap out of me last night? All the damn Derek Jeter stuff. Third eff you to Buster Olney for that story.

[Ceetar]

seawolf17 wrote: You know what else bugged the crap out of me last night? All the damn Derek Jeter stuff. Third eff you to Buster Olney for that story.

Bobby Valentine had some nice stories. Not baseball stories, but nice given the theme. But that 8 year old girl who loves Derek Jeter story and got to meet him? Barf.

Oh, also how they frequently played their inbetween inning montages over the start of the next inning instead of daring to lose a commercial spot.

[Centerfield]

Maybe the Mets, instead of fighting with their commissioner and creditor, should work with them to get permission to wear the hats next year, and/or into perpetuity. Or does no one care because it 's not an nice round anniversary?

Good point Ceetar. I sent a follow-up email:

One more thing, I hope that everyone will learn from this and the Mets and MLB will work together to see to it that these hats can be worn next year and every year thereafter.

[G-Fafif]

Kurkjian with a good Zeilecentric column here. Too bad Rey-Rey's been disappeared from the narrative, though.

[Centerfield]

It's amazing that there can something that special that happens to an organization, then the organization finds a way to fuck it up.

These guys are morons.

[ashie62]

9/11 was special?

[Centerfield]

I think you realize I meant that the sentiment behind the gesture was special.

[Guest themetfairy]

Tell the Mets how you feel: To: David Newman, Senior Vice President, Marketing & Communications, New York Mets (dnewman@nymets.com) cc: Adam Rubin (Adam.Rubin@espn.com) David, Thank you for your efforts in attempting to get permission to wear the first responder hats for yesterday's game. The pre-game tribute was also extremely well-done. I will say, though, that I am incredibly disappointed that the hats were not worn during the game. I realize that MLB issued an order, but I thought it was a great chance for the Mets to step up and defy MLB like they did ten years ago. I am reading Todd Zeile's quote today in Adam's article (http://espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/story/_/id/6958670/new-york-mets-wear-nypd-fdny-hats-9-11-game) and it really sums up what this gesture meant to the players and also to the fans. I thought that the Mets had a great opportunity to show what they were made of, and for the organization to handcuff the players like that is just incredibly disappointing. Adam, thank you for giving this issue the attention it deserves. I couldn't help but notice Joe Torre's quote: "I certainly understood what they wanted to do in regards to wearing the hats. I used my history with the fact that we were in the World Series 10 years ago." Joe Torre continues not to get it. The tribute hats have nothing to do with having been in the World Series. It has to do with having been in New York.

I didn't quote your wonderfully stated letter. But I wrote one of my own -

Dear Mr. Newman, I am beyond disappointed that the Mets did not wear NYC agency caps on 9/11 this year - I am aghast! The fact that MLB told the Mets that they could not wear them was reprehensible. The fact that the organization didn't stand up to the league was cowardly. It was the wrong thing, and I am ashamed of my team's acquiescence to this travesty. Sincerely, TMF

[Guest themetfairy]

And I received a response -

Thank you for taking the time to write with your frank comments regarding the Mets. Should you wish to discuss your email further, please forward your telephone number and I will call you... Or feel to call me in the office at 718 565 4305. Thank you again for your ongoing support of and interest in the Mets. David

[Benjamin Grimm]

Points for responsiveness.

[Ceetar]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Points for responsiveness.

it was either watch the game, or read his email.

[ashie62]

Ceetar wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: Points for responsiveness. it was either watch the game, or read his email.

Points for snark.