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[Ceetar]

MFS62 wrote: I just realized that this thread makes the threads around it better. Later

It doesn't have the range to reach the threads in the other forums though.

[dgwphotography]

Ceetar wrote: MFS62 wrote: I just realized that this thread makes the threads around it better. Later It doesn't have the range to reach the threads in the other forums though.

But this thread truly has the edge...

[G-Fafif]

Marty Noble: totally fucking high.

Citi Field a fine setting for Jeter's 3,000th Yankees captain's moment fits in well with Subway Series lore NEW YORK -- Advocates of Interleague competition, and even those who don't favor midseason integration of the leagues, may find this possibility intriguing enough to cross their fingers and hope it happens: Derek Jeter taking his three-grand step on the lawn at Citi Field. It would be the next-best thing to his reaching 3,000 hits at his own ballpark (unless the sadists among Yankees supporters prefer Jeter's coronation occur at Fenway Park to put some stink in New England's summer.) But if it comes to pass that Jeter's calf heals and his assignment to the disabled list ends in time for him to play in the second half of this year's Subway Series on July 1-3, then by all means, let him milestone it at the Big Citi. The Mets have endured New York's other team celebrating a World Series on their turf -- albeit different turf -- as well as assorted Interleague, Interborough Indignities. This wouldn't be so bad because of the identity of the man involved. Jeter is a well-respected player, an icon on the other side of town and, begrudgingly, perhaps in Queens, too. Moreover, he would be making history -- good, positive history. If the schedule denies Yankee Stadium the opportunity to stage the event, then there is no better venue for this city to celebrate the Captain than the Citi. Even with how well the Mets are playing recently, Jeter's 3,000th could be the hit of the summer at Citi. In another 50 years, when the next documentary about the Mets' home is produced and momentous occasions are recalled, Jeter's hit would be part of it, along with footage of Paul McCartney's concert, a World Series or three, the elimination of the Mo-Zone, perhaps a Papal visit, a few soccer games, David Wright Day, concerts by the next rock phenomenon, the retirement of No. 17 for Keith Hernandez, Piano Man playing the anthem, Mike Pelfrey's home run, Jose Reyes Night, Dillon Gee's three 20-win seasons and a brief mention of the absence of a no-hitter in Mets history. Jeter's hit will be a big deal, of course, no matter where it happens. He'll be the 28th to reach 3,000, the first to do so as an exclusively New York player. The Citi ought to embrace the moment. No need to be parochial on that night, should it arrive while the Yankees are in the third-base dugout. If there is one visiting player Citi Field ought to hail, it's Jeter, something of an estranged cousin. The only way he has hurt the Mets is play well, deliver critical hits and throw out too-cool Timo Perez at the plate in Game 1 of the 2000 World Series. That throw was remarkable -- merely perfect, and it goes mostly unnoticed because of Perez's world-class mindlessness. It was the type of play expected of Jeter. ***** The first time the Mets and Yankees played in a real game -- 14 years ago Thursday night -- the pregame moments were as memorable as the shutout by Dave Mlicki that followed. The part of New York that gathered at the old Yankee Stadium took its cue from the old Miller Lite commercials -- Tastes great ... Less filling ... Tastes great ... Less filling ... The Bleacher Creatures initiated their chant, "Let's go Yankees," with slightly elongated words. And the surprisingly many Mets fans in the bleachers responded with the traditional, monosyllabic and choppy "Let's go Mets." The rest of the ballpark caught on, making the House That Ruth Built a house divided. Those were moments that should have been captured for a documentary on tolerance. Each side deferred to the other -- "Let's go Yankees" ... "Let's go Mets" ... "Let's go Yankees" ... "Let's go Mets." And a game of chants evolved. In the 86 games New York's teams have played since (including the five games in the 2000 World Series), nothing so spontaneous, polite and simple, so friendly and so cool has happened. It was pure rooting. No sarcasm or hatred. If Yankee Stadium and its Creatures could accommodate Mets partisans then -- the Yankees were defending World Series champions at the time, and the Mets were just emerging from the Dark Ages -- Citi Field certainly can find a way to salute Jeter, even if his 3,000th hit doesn't happen during the Interleague series. If Jeter comes to plate in the series, the Citi ought to stand, applaud, cheer and force the Captain to step out of the box to acknowledge the reception. Then root for Gee, Dickey, Pelfrey, Niese and the rest of them to hold Jeter hitless.

[Gwreck]

I'm sorry, can you please pass me something sharp that I can just stick in my eye instead?

[Ceetar]

Gwreck wrote: I'm sorry, can you please pass me something sharp that I can just stick in my eye instead?

I don't get the love for the bleacher creatures, or the love for the ritual of ignoring the top of the first inning of baseball for a fan version of the starting lineup. (shocked it isn't sponsored though)

[Frayed Knot]

Amazing to read someone usually so totally clued-in as Marty be so completely tone-deaf on this issue.

[MFS62]

Ceetar wrote: Gwreck wrote: I don't get the love for the bleacher creatures, or the love for the ritual of ignoring the top of the first inning of baseball for a fan version of the starting lineup. (shocked it isn't sponsored though)

The bleacher creatures should be sponsored by Sylvan Learning Center.

Later

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

All joking and intrafanbase comic teeth-gnashing aside... this is really not a big deal. (At least, to me it isn't. And I have a generally poor sense of perspective.)

[metirish]

Marty can go and fuck off .

[Lefty Specialist]

I don't want Met fans be forced to applaud a hated rival, like POW's forced to make propaganda videos for their captors.

[Frayed Knot]

btw, in case you hadn't heard ... THE YANKEES ARE PLAYING IN WRIGLEY THIS WEEKEND!!!!

But, monumental as this event is, shouldn't this series be postponed until Jeter gets healthy?
I mean it's not really a series worth having if he's not going to be there as the entire purpose of the visit will lose all sense of history and importance.

[Ceetar]

Lefty Specialist wrote: I don't want Met fans be forced to applaud a hated rival, like POW's forced to make propaganda videos for their captors.

If I happen to be at the game (I may go to a Yankee game or two this year. It's still sorta baseball right?) I'd probably be non-aggressive and just not boo.

Obviously if it happens on the road I'd boo/ignore like I would every other hit by an opposing player excepting I guess a Piazza home run in his return.

[metirish]

Frayed Knot wrote: btw, in case you hadn't heard ... THE YANKEES ARE PLAYING IN WRIGLEY THIS WEEKEND!!!! But, monumental as this event is, shouldn't this series be postponed until Jeter gets healthy? I mean it's not really a series worth having if he's not going to be there as the entire purpose of the visit will lose all sense of history and importance.

God, I'm sick of it already , and there's another team I am fucking sick off , the Cubs can go shit themselves.

Hearing Sterling call a ball headed for the ivy would be fun though.I've come to think of him as the only good thing about the yankees.

[Guest themetfairy]

I actually hadn't heard.

Unless the MFYs are playing the Mets, I pay absolutely no attention to them.

[MFS62]

OK, my final attempt to brighten your days leading up to THE HIT.
I'd like to see him get 2,999, then right after that game, evidence comes out that Jeter bet on baseball games. I mean real evidence - betting slips and recorded phone calls.
OH, and he was placing them with Larry Jones.

I'm getting all misty.

Later

Yes, I'm an evil old bastard.

[G-Fafif]

Tom Seaver: High enough.

Tom Seaver says Mets fans should cheer for Derek Jeter if the Yankee captain gets his 3,000th hit at Citi Field. Jeter, currently on the DL with a calf injury, is six hits shy of 3,000. He is eligible to come off of the disabled list on June 29. His third game after coming off the DL will be at CIti Field, the first of a three-game Subway Series against the Mets. Seaver, who received an ovation from the crowd at Yankee Stadium after his 300th win, said Mets fans should give Jeter his due if he gets hit No. 3,000 at Citi. "You�re talking about the history of the game," Seaver said on Saturday. "Not an opposing player. It's a historical moment in the game of baseball. There's a point in time when it becomes more than your team or their team. It's a piece of history. This is a piece of history and respect for a guy that has earned it and earned it with class." Seaver still remembers the loud cheers before and after his 300th win -- which came on August 4, 1985 when he was a member of the White Sox. The crowd that day contained a large contingent of Met fans. Should Jeter hear the same if he gets his 3,000th knock at Citi Field? "Absolutely," Seaver said.

I wouldn't expect Seaver to say different, and that's fine, I guess. But this is all moot anyway. If Jeter makes the entire stadium better by getting his 3,000th hit, it's not like he's going to be doing it front of 42,000 Mets fans. MFY fans always find their way in to Subway Series games and I would expect an even more disproportionate amount this time around.

The 300th win at MFYS II is a little bit of false equivalency since until 1984, Seaver never faced the MFYs and had no history of making MFY lives miserable except, perhaps, by proxy if MFY fans were prone to looking at his and the Mets' successes when they were down as something that ruined their lives in an ancillary fashion.

Sudden, horrible thought. As opposed to Jeter's theoretical 3,000th hit at Citi Field coming in some innocuous fashion in the third inning or whatever, what if it's the three-run double in the top of the ninth that puts the MFYs ahead 4-2? Is that supposed to be worthy of Mets fans' applause? If it was, say, Ichiro doing it in those circumstances, I wouldn't feel compelled to stand and respect "the history of the game".

Hope that calf needs an extra week to heal.

[Benjamin Grimm]

The park would have more Yankee fans in the seats than Mets fans that day, so of course there will be cheers.

[metirish]

It'a expected that Seaver says that, I bet Keith and Ron feel the same way as they often throw praise at jeter like it's confetti.

[MFS62]

Now you can see why I have never exactly gone overboard in my praise of Seaver.
I've posted before about his insensitive comments toward the disabled. He's an asshole.

Later

[Guest Edgy DC]

You've attacked other people on that score, not Seaver.

I'd clap for Jeter if I were there. I'd hate myself for it but I'd clap. The disappointing part for Seaver is that he forwards the myth of Jeter being a class act. He's not.

Doesn't mean we shouldn't be.

[Frayed Knot]

This shouldn't be about whether the fans acknowledge a visiting player reaching a rare milestone; of course they should. You don't have to be enthusiastic but polite and respectful would be nice and, if you don't want to do that, then sit on your hands and say nothing.

My problem with this whole subject is the idea being put forth that Jeter doing so at CitiField is somehow fitting, or noble (sez Noble), or uplifting. Or that we the fans should feel honored he 'chose' us for the moment. Ummmmm, no we won't. Let him do it in that other borough so his fans can use the moment to feel further emboldened and moved to pour even more cups of over-priced beer on the heads of out-of-town fans while security sits back and pretends they didn't see it.