Hagin in '11

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Maybe a thread where we collect Wayne Hagin moments good and bad?

Last night when Mota came into the game, Hagin noted the booing and, being Wayne Hagin, attributed it not to the Scott Spezio Debacle nor the Piazza Drilling but to his steroid suspension.

[Ceetar]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Maybe a thread where we collect Wayne Hagin moments good and bad? Last night when Mota came into the game, Hagin noted the booing and, being Wayne Hagin, attributed it not to the Scott Spezio Debacle nor the Piazza Drilling but to his steroid suspension.

Ron or Keith attributed it to the '06 playoffs (which is where I'm coming from) and the subsequent suspension (was more about him sucking off the juice)

[MFS62]

I remember last year when he said "Coming into the game is ex-Detroit Tiger Octavio Dotel".
That's when I commented that he has no Mets soul.

Later

[metirish]

Ha , been listening to the radio more than usual lately and a good thing here.....a game a few weeks back when Bay dropped the ball in the outfield and threw to 2nd and Murphy didn't/couldn't make the tag play? , Hagin right away chastised him for not being in position to collect the trow quicker, and sure enough when I saw the TV replay I had to agree.

[seawolf17]

Fire Wayne Hagin already!

[Guest Edgy DC]

I'm at the point where I have to think real hard to know whether Wayne or Howie is talking.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Another highlight of last night's radiocast was Howie's attempt to engage Wayne in a discussion of the Monkees but giving up after Wayne's biggest contribution on the exchange was remembering "Peter York."

(That said, it was a weak attempt by Howie to force something, stemming from a scoring change prompting Howie to bring up white-out and its inventor, Mrs. Nesmith.

[metirish]

And that's part of the problem with Cohen ant Rose not being together , that had that thing didn't they?, it was all effortless like two lifelong friends yapping on about anything.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

There's a reason why they do the alternating-innings (with little "color" interjection from the other guy) thing a bit more than most play-by-play teams-- they have little-to-no chemistry.

Even if Wayne didn't take 40 seconds to give you the play result-- he doesn't describe action, so much as he circumscribes what occurred-- this would suggest that this can't be a terribly successful long-term partnership. Indeed, half the time, they sound like they're watching different games.

And seriously... if you've got what seems like it'll be a long-term gig with a club, wouldn't you try and study up a bit on some of the names, beyond what a casual baseball fan might know? It's year five, and Hagin knows less about Met history now than he did in '07.

[metirish]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: There's a reason why they do the alternating-innings (with little "color" interjection from the other guy) thing a bit more than most play-by-play teams-- they have little-to-no chemistry. Even if Wayne didn't take 40 seconds to give you the play result-- he doesn't describe action, so much as he circumscribes what occurred-- this would suggest that this can't be a terribly successful long-term partnership. Indeed, half the time, they sound like they're watching different games. And seriously... if you've got what seems like it'll be a long-term gig with a club, wouldn't you try and study up a bit on some of the names, beyond what a casual baseball fan might know? It's year five, and Hagin knows less about Met history now than he did in '07.

that sums Hagin up right there .

[HahnSolo]

Is it his fifth year already?

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

4th. He debuted in '08.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

THAT's right. '07 was Rose-McCarthy, right?

[Guest Edgy DC]

Ted Robinson, how soon they've forgotten.

[Ceetar]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: THAT's right. '07 was Rose-McCarthy, right?

As was '06. SNY started in '05 right? who was on the radio with Howie?

[Ceetar]

Ceetar wrote: THAT's right. '07 was Rose-McCarthy, right? As was '06. SNY started in '05 right? who was on the radio with Howie?

Guess it was '06.
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"Designated fill-in play-by-play announcer for SNY when Cohen is off. So far has only called several games in late May/early June 2006 when Cohen was out with an appendectomy."

[G-Fafif]

The big breakup of Radio Perfection followed 2005. For two seasons, it was Gary and Howie. Tom came on board in Spring Training 2006 and became unbearable in Spring Training 2006.

Wayne Hagin strikes me as punishment. "If you're too cheap to come out to the ballpark, get cable or sign up for MLB At Bat, this is what we're giving you."

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

G-Fafif wrote: Wayne Hagin strikes me as punishment. "If you're too cheap to come out to the ballpark, get cable or sign up for MLB At Bat, this is what we're giving you."

/Laughs because it's true
//Cries because it's true

[Fman99]

I never hated Ted the way I hate Wayne. He's just a mercenary. He's got no Mets pedigree. He's not from New York, he didn't grow up a Mets fan, he didn't play for the Mets. He's a fucking Rockies announcer in hiding. He's constantly fucking up players' names and he takes far too long to get to the point of things.

I'd like to see him telekinetically levitated into the air by Sissy Spacek as Carrie ("They're not dirty pillows, Mother, they're called BREASTS!") and set aflame and/or fucked by angry oxen. Either one would satisfy me equally.

[MFS62]

Fman99 wrote: I'd like to see him telekinetically levitated into the air by Sissy Spacek as Carrie ("They're not dirty pillows, Mother, they're called BREASTS!") and set aflame and/or fucked by angry oxen. Either one would satisfy me equally.

Oh come on!
We know you.
Admit it.
You'd rather see him fucked by angry oxen.

Later

[metirish]

Classic Hagin today top of the 8th, Beltran at the plate , Jose at third and Turner at second, Wayne sounds totally surprised that Turner is scoring from second on the Beltran single, he even admits to it....I had no idea for several seconds what was going on after the routine "Reyes in from 3rd base" call, he was not at all prepared for Turner..kinda funny actually.

No Howie today , Ed and Wayne......I need a blow after it.

What was really annoying was Coleman would repeat nearly verbatim everything Wayne said after a play that warranted him chiming in.

[G-Fafif]

Howie returns Monday night. His eldest daughter (if he has more than one) is 22 this year, so maybe there was a college graduation. I remember him skipping out on Mets Extra the weekend of her birth in July 1989 -- Sid struck out 16 Braves but got beat by Lonnie Smith.

Or as Howie would refer to it, "when my daughter was born."

[bmfc1]

I don't have the same animosity as most do toward Wayne. Maybe that's because he's not everybody else other than Howie... because almost everybody else other than Howie stinks. Charlie Slowes in DC is good (a Fordham grad) but most radio guys (and gals, Suzyn) are awful. Wayne tries hard, too hard but whenever I get frustrated with him, and wonder why he's there, I remember that he's the 2d best radio broadcaster in NY. I know--that's damning with faint praise but I don't hate the guy even though he's not great.

[MFS62]

bmfc1 wrote: I don't have the same animosity as most do toward Wayne. Maybe that's because he's not everybody else other than Howie... because almost everybody else other than Howie stinks.

I don't dislike him because he's not Howie.
I dislike him because he's Wayne Hagin, and he's not good at broadcasting baseball games for the New York Mets.

Later

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Having him call PBP is like putting Byrdak up against a solid pair of righties-- it doesn't put him in a success-conducive position.

Slot him at full-time color, and I don't have nearly the same objection.

[Guest themetfairy]

My grandfather was blind, and always preferred radio calls to television because they would generally describe the plays that he couldn't see in greater detail.

When I listen to Wayne, I always feel that my grandfather would have been disappointed by his poor descriptions of the action.

[Fman99]

I'd like to slot him in an airmail drop.

[Ceetar]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Having him call PBP is like putting Byrdak up against a solid pair of righties-- it doesn't put him in a success-conducive position. Slot him at full-time color, and I don't have nearly the same objection.

Yeah. this works for me. I do think he's at least semi-insightful.