Bill Pecota Revisited

[Guest Edgy DC]

Royals blogger, counting down his team's top 100, looks back at Jeff Torborg's favorite futility infielder.

[Benjamin Grimm]

"Wait until you see Bill Pecota!"

That's got to be high on the list of famous/infamous Mets quotes.

Maybe that can be next off-season's forum project: compiling and ranking famous Mets quotes.

[Guest The Second Spitter]

Nate Silver was/is a Mets fan; If he developed his stat system a decade later it probably would have been called the VELANDIA.

[Guest Edgy DC]

My favorite double-quote:

Wally Backman: "From the stuff I heard from the trainer�s room, Straw should�ve been out there. Nobody in the world that I know of gets sick 25 times a year."

Darryl Strawberry: �I'll bust that little redneck in the face."

I try to imagine being the reporter running back and forth between them. Do you file or do you go back for one more quote, seeing if the other guy will escalate?

[Guest The Second Spitter]

Edgy DC wrote: I try to imagine being the reporter running back and forth between them. Do you file or do you go back for one more quote, seeing if the other guy will escalate?

If you extend the meaning of "reporter" to cover Bob Klapisch, I can vividly picture it.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Met figures in the top 100 Royals:

#89: Paul Byrd
#77: Fran Healy
#66: Bil Pecota

[Benjamin Grimm]

No Bret Saberhagen???

[Guest Edgy DC]

#29: Cookie Rojas
#94: Kevin McReynolds
#42: Jose Offerman
#58 Emil Brown and #57 Raul Gonzalez (really?)

Don't think they've reached the top ten (and Saberhagen) yet.

[Frayed Knot]

Royals blogger, counting down his team's top 100, looks back at Jeff Torborg's favorite futility infielder.

First comment to the blog piece on Pecota: He's one of my favorite "gritty, hustles" type player. Nothing fancy just gives it all that he's got everytime on the field.

... although maybe we shouldn't knock it seeing as how the CPF #66 guy is Ron Hunt.

[Benjamin Grimm]

So, Mets still to come would have to include Saberhagen and Amos Otis and Carlos Beltran.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Oh! And Clint Hurdle and David Cone.

[Guest Edgy DC]

#40 Brian McRae
#52: David Cone
#56: Brent Mayne

[Guest Edgy DC]

#63: Clint Hurdle
#64 Angel Berroa
#73: Michael Tucker

[Guest Edgy DC]

#99: Rey Sanchez
#100: Jay Bell

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Coney won a Cy for them-- he and Bagwell both got kneecapped in '94-- and posted a net 144 ERA+ for 2+ years, and his reward is a figurative place in Emil Brown's and Raul Gonzalez's neighborhood.

That's some messed-up value system, there.

[seawolf17]

Edgy DC wrote: #58 Emil Brown and #57 Raul Gonzalez (really?)

No. Not really. Raul Ibanez, not Gonzalez.

[Frayed Knot]

CPF Ranks of Met/Royals:

Bill Pecota = 404 (vs KCR ranking of 66)
Fran Healy = N/A (77)
Paul Byrd = 547 (89)
Bret Saberhagen = 70 (??)
Cookie Rojas = N/A (29)
Jose Offerman = 562 (42)
Kevin McReynolds = 24 (94)
Emil Brown = no ranking (58)
Brian McRae = 142 (40)
David Cone = 23 (52)
Brent Mayne = 519 (56)
Clint Hurdle = 410 (63)
Angel Berroa = no ranking (64)
Michael Tucker = no ranking (73)
Jay Bell = no ranking (100)
Rey Sanchez = 526 (99)
Amos Otis = 482 (??)
Carlos Beltran = 20 (??)

[Guest Edgy DC]

Jay Bell going wire to wire for the 2003 Mets, yet remaining unranked, has to go down as one of the top accomplishments in futility in Mets history.

[Gwreck]

In 116 ABs, Jay managed to hit 20 singles and 1 double. Good lord, I had forgotten how bad that was.

[G-Fafif]

The Royals: Just a bunch of wanna-be Mets.

Or is it the other way around?

[HahnSolo]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Coney won a Cy for them-- he and Bagwell both got kneecapped in '94-- and posted a net 144 ERA+ for 2+ years, and his reward is a figurative place in Emil Brown's and Raul Gonzalez's neighborhood. That's some messed-up value system, there.

Uh, yeah. WTF?

[HahnSolo]

Frayed Knot wrote: CPF Ranks of Met/Royals: Bill Pecota = 404 (vs KCR ranking of 66) Fran Healy = N/A (77) Paul Byrd = 547 (89) Bret Saberhagen = 70 (??) Cookie Rojas = N/A (29) Jose Offerman = 562 (42) Kevin McReynolds = 24 (94) Emil Brown = no ranking (58) Brian McRae = 142 (40) David Cone = 23 (52) Brent Mayne = 519 (56) Clint Hurdle = 410 (63) Angel Berroa = no ranking (64) Michael Tucker = no ranking (73) Jay Bell = no ranking (100) Rey Sanchez = 526 (99) Amos Otis = 482 (??) Carlos Beltran = 20 (??)

Reading that guy's Cone piece, I think it's safe to say Ed Hearn won't be cracking his Royals top 100.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Other Metroyals in the UMDB (a surprisingly high number):

Jermaine Allensworth
Chip Ambres
Rick Anderson
Kevin Appier
Tucker Ashford
Brian Bannister
Juan Berenguer
Ricky Bottalico
Craig Brazell
Hubie Brooks

Ambiorix Burgos
Jos� Cardenal
Alberto Castillo
Jaime Cerda
Endy Chavez
Bruce Chen
Galen Cisco
Vince Coleman
Jeff Conine
Jerry Cram (who is everywhere)

Tommy Davis
Wilson Delgado
Elmer Dessens
Mike DiFelice
Octavio Dotel
Jorge Fabregas
Joe Foy
Wes Gardner
Ruben Gotay
Jerry Grote

Tom Hall
Shane Halter
Andy Hassler
Ed Hearn
Bob Heise
Doug Henry
Luis Hernandez
Roberto Hernandez
Philip Humber
Mike Jacobs

Jason Jacome
Gregg Jefferies
Bob Johnson
Ross Jones
Jeff Keppinger
Terry Leach
Jos� Lima
Doug Linton
Graeme Lloyd
Terrence Long

Eli Marrero
Jerry Martin
Jerry May
Bob McClure
Joe McEwing
Brian McRae
Doug Mientkiewicz
Keith Miller
Orber Moreno
Dan Murray

Hideo Nomo
Jon Nunnally
Craig Paquette
Rick Reed
Desi Relaford
Luis Rivera
Glendon Rusch
Bret Saberhagen
Ray Sadecki
Juan Samuel
Ken Sanders

Jos� Santiago
Rich Sauveur
Dan Schatzeder
Tim Spehr
Kelly Stinnett
Pat Tabler
Hawk Taylor
John Thomson
Gary Thurman
Julio Valera

Derek Wallace

[Benjamin Grimm]

Didn't Jerry Grote have something like a 9-rbi day with the Royals? And he played very few games with them.

[G-Fafif]

When I think about the 1992 Mets, I often confuse/conflate Bill Pecota and Dave Gallagher. When I think of the 1993 Mets, I often conflate/confuse Dave Gallagher and Joe Orsulak.

But I never associate Joe Orsulak with Bill Pecota.

[Frayed Knot]

Didn't Jerry Grote have something like a 9-rbi day with the Royals? And he played very few games with them.

Seven - which is a lot under any circumstance but particularly so considering he had only 9 total for them

oe: and those were the final RBIs of his career