Rule 5 Draft

[bmfc1]

Will the Mets draft a player and then immediately trade him (like last year)? Will the Mets draft a player and then give him away because of inept roster management (Darren O'Day)? Met property Edwin Ramirez is supposed to be the first player taken in the draft: http://www.metsblog.com/2010/12/08/rubin-on-the-rule-v-draft/

It's the Rule 5 Draft! Today at 9 AM!!!

[G-Fafif]

I can't believe I slept through the Rule 9 draft at 5 AM.

[Ceetar]

bmfc1 wrote: Will the Mets draft a player and then immediately trade him (like last year)? Will the Mets draft a player and then give him away because of inept roster management (Darren O'Day)? Met property Edwin Ramirez is supposed to be the first player taken in the draft: http://www.metsblog.com/2010/12/08/rubin-on-the-rule-v-draft/ It's the Rule 5 Draft! Today at 9 AM!!!

Last year they snatched a player away from the Phillies and traded him to the dodgers, which must have been some sort of backdoor deal with the Dodgers, but I'm not sure what the other end of it was.

I thought it was just poor decision making on O'Day? because he came out sucking?

edit- Wasn't O'Day that was sucking. I'm confusing him with that other guy..the free agent they signed, pitched like three innings, gave up a game winning homer and then got injured..

[bmfc1]

The way I remember it, O'Day was cut because Omar didn't want to put Pelfrey on the DL. As it turned out, he could have been put on the DL, only missed one start (because of the timing) and then they could have kept O'Day. Of course, it worked out for O'Day as he ended up pitching in the WS.

[Ceetar]

So what's the likely thinking here with the Ramirez guy? He just doesn't really have what it takes, in the Mets eyes? They'd rather take a gamble on other guys Rule 5's? Or they're going to sign enough guys to fill those 40 man slots?

I mean having a hard thrower hanging around Buffalo to possibly help out in an inffective or injured pen doesn't sound like a bad guy to protect.

[bmfc1]

Brad Emaus, 2B/3B. 25. Toronto thought enough of him to send him to the AFL in '09.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=emaus-001bra

http://www.hot-prospects.net/baseball-prospects/toronto-blue-jays/brad-emaus-toronto-blue-jays-2b.html

http://vimeo.com/7756258

Edited December 9, 2010 by Guest

[metirish]

Ceetar wrote: So what's the likely thinking here with the Ramirez guy? He just doesn't really have what it takes, in the Mets eyes? They'd rather take a gamble on other guys Rule 5's? Or they're going to sign enough guys to fill those 40 man slots? I mean having a hard thrower hanging around Buffalo to possibly help out in an inffective or injured pen doesn't sound like a bad guy to protect.

This from a Rubin tweet


Rubin and others reporting that the mets "may very well lose RHP Elvin Ramirez in Rule 5 draft. No control , but hitting 97 mph in DR with scouts watching".

You'd like to keep a guy like that right?, how does this work again, the Mets expose X amount of players that can be taken by other teams?

[bmfc1]

Pedro Beato, P, 24:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=beato-001ped

Brooklyn. Great Wikipedia article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Beato

[Ceetar]

They'd have to add him to the 40 man to have protected him, which means, I guess, that they'd have to think he was ready this year or he's just wasting a spot.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=beato-001ped

This Pedro Beato guy was actually drafted by Minaya his first year here, but didn't sign.

[Ceetar]

good article on him by Joe Janish: http://www.metstoday.com/5899/10-11-offseason/mets-could-get-beato-back/

[bmfc1]

They have to keep these guys in the majors all year or offer them back them back to their prior organization. Perhaps Emaus can stick as the back-up MI (unless Luis Hernandez or someone else stands out) and Beato can stay in the bullpen (16 saves last year for Bowie).

[Ceetar]

"I heard if it was up to them, Omar Minaya and the scouts, they would have given me the money. ... (Fred) Wilpon didn't want to let it out," Beato said, referring to the Mets general manager and owner, respectively. "But I did what I had to do."

they offered 750, slot was 800, he wanted a million.

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/ny_local/2006/07/11/2006-07-11_beato_has_iron__mets_pass__b.html

[Benjamin Grimm]

A middle infielder who was at AAA last year seems to have a reasonable chance at staying in the big leagues for a full season with the Mets.

[Benjamin Grimm]

PIT: Josh Rodriguez, SS, Columbus (CLE) SEA: Jose Flores, RHP, Columbus (CLE) ARI: Joe Paterson, LHP, Fresno (SF) BAL: Adrian Rosario, RHP, Nashville (MIL) KC: Nathan Adcock, RHP, Indianapolis (PIT) WAS: Elvin Ramirez, RHP, Buffalo (NYM) CLE: No pick CHC: Mason Tobin, RHP, Salt Lake (LAA) HOU: Aneury Rodriguez, RHP, Durham (TB) MIL: Patrick Egan, RHP, Norfolk NYM: Bradley Emaus, 2B, Las Vegas (TOR) FLA: Pass LAD: Pass LAA: No pick OAK: Pass DET: No pick COL: Pass TOR: Pass STL: Pass CWS: Pass BOS: Pass SD: George Kontos, RHP, Scranton/Wilkes-Barre (NYY) TEX: Pass CIN: Pass ATL: Pass SF: Pass MIN: Scott Diamond, LHP, Gwinnett (ATL) NYY: Robert Fish, LHP, Salt Lake (LAA) TB: Cesar Cabral, LHP, Pawtucket (BOS) PHI: Michael Martinez, IF, Syracuse (WAS)

Is there a difference between "Pass" and "No pick"?

[Guest The Second Spitter]

metirish wrote: Ceetar wrote: So what's the likely thinking here with the Ramirez guy? He just doesn't really have what it takes, in the Mets eyes? They'd rather take a gamble on other guys Rule 5's? Or they're going to sign enough guys to fill those 40 man slots? I mean having a hard thrower hanging around Buffalo to possibly help out in an inffective or injured pen doesn't sound like a bad guy to protect. This from a Rubin tweet Rubin and others reporting that the mets "may very well lose RHP Elvin Ramirez in Rule 5 draft. No control , but hitting 97 mph in DR with scouts watching". You'd like to keep a guy like that right?, how does this work again, the Mets expose X amount of players that can be taken by other teams?

Given his high walk rate in the low minors, I'm apprehensive whether he could stick around on a MLB 25 man roster, even if its the Nats roster.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

So the Nats took our flamethrower.

Oh well. The reports make it seem like a fish story to me. He was a guy with a decent arm, in the 90s and suddenly he's a 99mph guy.

[Guest The Second Spitter]

Career whip in the minors 1.4something - He'll be back in the org at the end of ST.

Benjamin Grimm wrote: SD: George Kontos, RHP, Scranton/Wilkes-Barre (NYY)

[Edgy MD]

Outside of height, weight, birthday, and stats, I can't find one fact about Bradley Emaus.

[Valadius]

Might as well merge this thread with this one.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Edgy DC wrote: Outside of height, weight, birthday, and stats, I can't find one fact about Bradley Emaus.

He definitely doesn't live up to his nickname, Bradley "Famous" Emaus.

Wikipedia reports Pedro "Neato" Beato enters to "Mr. Roboto" by Styx.

[G-Fafif]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Outside of height, weight, birthday, and stats, I can't find one fact about Bradley Emaus. He definitely doesn't live up to his nickname, Bradley "Famous" Emaus. Wikipedia reports Pedro "Neato" Beato enters to "Mr. Roboto" by Styx.

Thinking Beato rhymes with Roboto more than Neato.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Yeah, I'm thinking it's "Bee AAH Toe"

[MFS62]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: So the Nats took our flamethrower. Oh well. The reports make it seem like a fish story to me. He was a guy with a decent arm, in the 90s and suddenly he's a 99mph guy.

The guy who watches the minors for "Inside Pitch" (subscription site) says that velocity comes as news to him. He says the guy's fastball tops out around 94.
Later

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I'm not sure I got Emaus pronounced right either.

[batmagadanleadoff]

I was always curious about this: How is Joe Grzenda pronounced? Is the Z silent? (Grenda?)

[smg58]

bmfc1 wrote: The way I remember it, O'Day was cut because Omar didn't want to put Pelfrey on the DL. As it turned out, he could have been put on the DL, only missed one start (because of the timing) and then they could have kept O'Day. Of course, it worked out for O'Day as he ended up pitching in the WS.

Parnell also had options.

[smg58]

The PCL is considered a hitters' league, but Emaus posted a .298/.395/.495 line at Vegas with an even 50/50 BB/K ratio in 309 ABs. And he'll turn 25 in March. I have no idea what his glove at 2B is like (did he play so much at third last year simply because Aaron Hill was blocking him?), but I'd give him an excellent shot at sticking around.

Beato just turned 24 and had a nice year in AA switching to the pen for the first time, but he has no experience above AA. He's more of a lottery ticket, but his resum� is not all that different from O'Day's two years ago.

[seawolf17]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Is there a difference between "Pass" and "No pick"?

I'd think "No Pick" means their 40 is full and therefore can't pick.

Ceetar, you're thinking of Matt Wise.

I thought I remembered Beato being a Met at one point. It's possible they'll both stick; worth a shot, I guess.

[Edgy MD]

Took two more in the AAA phase

NYM: Ronny Morla, RHP, Tennessee (CHC)
NYM: Richard Brooks, RHP, Birmingham (CWS)

And one more in the AA phase.

NYM: Quintin Berry, OF, Lake Elsinore (SD)

I didn't even know there was a AA phase.

I go this from a report last year after Mora was nabbed in the Aaron Miles trade.

Ronny Morla may be the key to the deal, and could be a good one. The 21 year old fireballer had an ERA near five in A-ball last year and a 1-7 record. So what am I talking about? First of all, learn to be open to ignoring crappy ERAs for low-level prospects. Yes, it�s always a good sign when the pitcher isn�t giving up runs, but sometimes, when the kid is, it�s not reflective of his ability. Sometimes he�s being instructed, and is working on certain things (new pitches, for example), which can result in runs given up. Also, the defense behind you isn�t quite the same caliber as you�ll see at higher levels. So why am I excited about this kid? Well, he�s struck out over 10 guys per 9 innings, and sports a 3 to 1 K:BB ratio, which means he has good stuff and good control. That�s a combination that I�ll take every time over low-level ERA and win/loss.

[RealityChuck]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: I was always curious about this: How is Joe Grzenda pronounced? Is the Z silent? (Grenda?)

It was Gruh-ZEND-a. The "r" was used as a vowel (like in "Vrooman," a Dutch name).