IGT 24 August Mets v. Fish

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

You guys are condoning a player on your team bitching while the season goes down the tubes. Yes, he wants to play more but say it in private. What ever happened to putting the team first?[/quote:ud3z67jt]

Geez.

[Guest Edgy DC]

You guys are condoning a player on your team bitching while the season goes down the tubes.[/quote:30suekhf]
No I'm not. I don't see him bitching. He was asked and he answered.

Yes' date=' he wants to play more but say it in private. What ever happened to putting the team first?[/quote:30suekhf']
He was asked if he wants to play more, and he said yes. As he's the better-performing player, I think that is putting the team first. I'm advocating for him to play more, also, and I think that's putting the team first.

I'm condoning a guy standing up and defying the notion of the season going down the tubes, which is exactly what he did with his bat last night.

[bmfc1]

I'm floored by the reaction to a bad player--featured in every montage of Mets embarrassing moments--putting himself before the team, especially at a rare moment of joy. Just because he was asked doesn't mean he has to say what's on his mind and embarrass his employer even if they deserve it. Castillo should be on his knees (interpret that however you want) thanking Omar for paying him too much money for too long a period of time. Good for him that he wants to play more. If he hit .300, maybe he would.

[Ceetar]

I'm floored by the reaction to a bad player--featured in every montage of Mets embarrassing moments--putting himself before the team, especially at a rare moment of joy. Just because he was asked doesn't mean he has to say what's on his mind and embarrass his employer even if they deserve it. Castillo should be on his knees (interpret that however you want) thanking Omar for paying him too much money for too long a period of time. Good for him that he wants to play more. If he hit .300, maybe he would.[/quote:fckxolvo]

He hit .300 last year. He went down with an injury, one likely not related to 'breaking down', and was rushed back, started to get hot, and was benched. He's had more hits in the last 18 hours than Ruben has had in two months. He's been subjected to "My team wants to trade me" rumors for years. The fans hate him, mainly for one error and a lack of home runs, and he knows the team will explore every possible option to make sure he's not here.

[G-Fafif]

Maybe Castillo's been so down about his lack of playing time that when he got his hit he didn't realize he'd won the game.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I'm floored by the reaction to a bad player--featured in every montage of Mets embarrassing moments--putting himself before the team, especially at a rare moment of joy.[/quote:1dh3inol]

I don't get it. There are four non-facts --- or opinions stated as fact --- there.

When Castilo got five hits in three games, and the Mets announced they were releasing Alex Cora, I took it as a sign that they had accepted that Castillo was healthy enough to play regularly and that any loss of skill in switching from Cora to Tejada would be largely lost in Tejada's far lesser playing time --- so why not save money on that option.

But instead Tejada was elevated to starting position he hasn't earned. And he and the team have floundered.

Since his callup, he has hit .026.

.026! Who wouldn't be frustrated?

[Ceetar]

I'm floored by the reaction to a bad player--featured in every montage of Mets embarrassing moments--putting himself before the team, especially at a rare moment of joy.[/quote:3gkbzewd]

I don't get it. There are four non-facts --- or opinions stated as fact --- there.

When Castilo got five hits in three games, and the Mets announced they were releasing Alex Cora, I took it as a sign that they had accepted that Castillo was healthy enough to play regularly and that any loss of skill in switching from Cora to Tejada would be largely lost in Tejada's far lesser playing time --- so why not save money on that option.

But instead Tejada was elevated to starting position he hasn't earned. And he and the team have floundered.

Since his callup, he has hit .026.

.026! Who wouldn't be frustrated?[/quote:3gkbzewd]

There's precedent. After September 23rd, 2008, during the most important part of the season, Manuel chose to play Argenis Reyes and Ramon Martinez, except for 1 AB, the rest of the way.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Maybe Castillo's been so down about his lack of playing time that when he got his hit he didn't realize he'd won the game.[/quote:230n7j86]

Clinical depression, obviously. A DL stint for Mr. Castillo, a plane ticket for Mr. Satin.

[metsmarathon]

he's a villain, and he can do no right.

as he's rounding first base, the thought probably crosses his mind that he's still going to be riding the bench to start the next game. and if he does make it into the batters box, the fans will likely still boo him.

but no. he should've have pushed aside any thoughts regarding his own personal pride and his struggles to achieve, and whipped out his wallet, counted some bills, and smiled 26 million times, right? oh wait. no. he should care about the team winning. except in those instances where the team winning would be helped by his playing. in which case he should care about his money. which is why he's hurting the team. if only he were a robot, like all the other millionaires.

[G-Fafif]

Maybe Castillo's been so down about his lack of playing time that when he got his hit he didn't realize he'd won the game.

[Ceetar]

he's a villain, and he can do no right.

as he's rounding first base, the thought probably crosses his mind that he's still going to be riding the bench to start the next game. [/quote:1s6z0w3r]

It's alright though. We know the players all love to play for Manuel and play hard for him. That's what all the hosts/analysts say!

[Frayed Knot]

It's my experience that when fans start running out of actual things to complain about they start resorting to facial expressions.
The 'Franco smirk' and the 'Heilman pout' were the two most recent examples of fans installing 'I don't care' and 'I'm not trying' motives to players they had already decided to dislike.

[G-Fafif]

Walkoff Luis: Never the life of the party, though context seems to hang heavy in the air when he's the man in the spotlight.

August 2007:

"I came here to help the team and now I want to keep it going. I feel like I'm contributing."

April 2009:

"Last year, that was tough for me. Like I said in spring training, I've worked so hard. I feel good and want to prove what kind of player I am."

August 2010:

"I feel good. I feel good for the team, feel good for me. It's hard because for the first time I'm not playing every day. I try to do the best I can."

[Fman99]

Maybe Castillo's been so down about his lack of playing time that when he got his hit he didn't realize he'd won the game.

[batmagadanleadoff]

One game (Atlanta-Colorado) features two teams the Mets would like to catch.[/quote:3jehwmsd]
Who would you prefer to win that one?[/quote:3jehwmsd]
The smart play is to root for Atlanta there. I'm not sure my heart's in the smart play, though.[/quote:3jehwmsd]

Atlanta's the smart play ... the closer you are to a clean slate. All things being equal, the Mets chances of making the playoffs would be better if they finished ahead of the Braves instead of the Rockies ... by orders of magnitude. But all things are no longer equal and the slate's dirty. The regular season ends in about five weeks and the Braves are two and a half games up on Philly. So my hopes, like yours, are riding on the Braves to beat Colorado.

[Ceetar]

Eh, as long as I have to hope, I'm hoping for the Braves and Phillies to go 5-25. They're off to a good start, Braves blew a 10-1 lead against the Rockies.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I look at it this a-way. The Mets are 16 games back net in the division (nine behind Atlanta and seven behind Phillie) and 16 net back in the wild card (seven, six, two-point-five, and point-five behind four different teams).

All things look equal, so I'll root for Colorado as Atlanta losing knocks back a division rival and a potential wild card rival. But the important thing remains the Mets winning, and they're not right now.

[batmagadanleadoff]

I don't know about this net business but maybe the Mets are better off with the Rockies win earlier today. The Mets began the day only two games behind Colorado; there's plenty of time to catch the Rockies. That's one way of looking at this.

[batmagadanleadoff]

I don't know about this net business but maybe the Mets are better off with the Rockies win earlier today. The Mets began the day only two games behind Colorado; there's plenty of time to catch the Rockies. That's one way of looking at this.[/quote:jrs7nw64]

Of course, the Mets have to win for this to mean anything. But they're not helping themselves any. They've probably thrown in the towel internally. If contending was the priority, Francoeur would be sitting, Tejada would be sitting. And Misch would've been skipped over today for Pelfrey.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Castillo is now the relief secondbaseman.

[ashie62]

KABOOM!

[ashie62]

Frenchy! Keep hope alive!