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The Thyroid of Reyes (split from 3/5 IGT)


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Send him to Germany anyway.[/quote:3e36e24u]

Perhaps to become a more efficient baserunner?[/quote:3e36e24u]


Jose Reyes: Faster than the Blitzkrieg


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Don't panic. This kind of ailment requires medication, not DL time. He's not going to miss any games that count over this.


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Agreed, I know two people who just take a pill everyday.


Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
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Great! And maybe that thyroid medication will also take care of that annoying celebrating and showoff fast-running!


Guest Edgy DC
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Don't panic. This kind of ailment requires medication, not DL time. He's not going to miss any games that count over this.[/quote:2phfgqvg]

Too late, I've already banished him to Germany.


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LWFS: maybe that thyroid medication will also take care of that annoying celebrating and showoff fast-running! <<<

If he could come back and lead the league in stolen bases, runs scored,
and extra base hits I could care less if he stood on his head on the dug-
out steps and farted baseballs.


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Most thyroid issues are easily treated with medication

Hopefully the side effects of the pill won't cause Jose to feel too sick to function for too long

They can be difficult on non-athletes


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If he could come back and lead the league in stolen bases, runs scored,
and extra base hits I could care less if he stood on his head on the dug-
out steps and farted baseballs.[/quote:rmdulhpx]
If he does that, I'm gonna' make sure I have my camera ready.

Later


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If he could come back and lead the league in stolen bases, runs scored,
and extra base hits I could care less if he stood on his head on the dug-
out steps and farted baseballs.
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Would be more entertaining that that thing that shoots t-shirts into the stands.


Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
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Klapisch, weirdly, with an affecting look at Reyes. (And-- if you're prone to aneurysms, do not continue reading-- factually accurate, too.)


PORT ST. LUCIE, Fla. � Jose Reyes was surrounded by reporters in the third base dugout at Tradition Field, doing a lousy job of hiding his nervousness. He�d just gotten a message from his doctors that would�ve sent anyone�s heart on a fast sprint.

More tests.

You bet Reyes is frightened today. �We�re talking about my health,� he said before being rushed to New York to learn if he has an overactive thyroid, and if so, why.

The condition could be managed with medication or might disappear on its own. Medical experts are confident Reyes faces no long-term risk, but that wasn�t enough to calm the shortstop, who�s already had enough bad luck for an entire career.

Understand this about Reyes: his horizons are narrow, innocent, built solely around baseball. Reyes is the anti-Alex Rodriguez, the society-page hound. He doesn�t talk about the elections the way Mike Piazza used to, or work crossword puzzles like Mike Mussina. Reyes has no clue how to maneuver around clubhouse politics like Keith Hernandez, the master, did a generation ago.

All Reyes knows is the beauty of going first-to-third in a blur, scooping short hops and firing those missiles across the infield to first base. He craves the simple life of a ballplayer. Without it, Reyes looks lost, if not altogether unhinged.

�Knowing Jose, he can�t live without baseball,� Carlos Beltran was saying. �This is what he does.�

The Mets� center fielder was sitting in the clubhouse a few hours after the shortstop had packed up and left the spring training complex. Beltran is out until May, recovering from a serious knee operation � his career in greater jeopardy than Reyes�.

Yet it was Beltran who acted as the organization�s voice of reason. He said Reyes should look at the possible imbalance in his thyroid levels as a �relief� because, for once, this has nothing to do with his hamstrings.

That�s what it comes to for Reyes � after years of chronic leg injuries, an overactive thyroid hardly qualified as an emergency. Still, you wouldn�t have traded places with Reyes this week. Not after the way he�d been jerked around by the fates and, yes, the doctors, too.

Reyes was poised to make his spring training debut against the Cardinals on Thursday, his first time on the field since May 20. It had been a long, miserable journey after his initial hamstring injury � the rehab lasted weeks, months even. Reyes spent the summer rehabbing in Port St. Lucie, getting nowhere. The whispering campaign grew louder. The nice-guy Reyes was, maybe, too nice to play with a little pain.

But the cloud of cynicism evaporated when he tore the hamstring once and for all in September, forcing the doctors to operate. In a bizarre way, the surgeon�s knife excised the cancer in Reyes� reputation. He was finally vindicated, but he just didn�t have it in him to call out the haters.

Instead, Reyes instead poured himself into his winter rehab, declaring himself ready for action this week. His name was posted on the wall in the clubhouse � batting in the No. 3 spot, playing shortstop. Just like Beltran said, this was the moment Reyes was waiting for. This was the beginning of his new life as a healthy Met.

Only it wasn�t. The local doctors saw something they didn�t like in Reyes� blood work, summoning him back to the lab for more tests. Reyes said he felt �fine� and couldn�t understand the confusion. His energy level was normal, no excessive sweating or tremors. The condition was a mystery to him. Still, Reyes had no choice but to comply. He left the ballpark, underwent the secondary test and, to his relief, was told he was healthy again.

�Thank God,� Reyes said as he reignited the engine one more time, penciled in against the Marlins on Friday. It was a perfect day for the unveiling � sunny, albeit brisk, low humidity, a friendly Mets� crowd pulling into the parking lots.

And then it happened again. Reyes was tapped on the shoulder by a Mets� official, who told him the team�s New York-based doctors were overruling the local medical team. The all-clear was rescinded, replaced by the dreaded message: more tests.

�I have to be concerned about it and find out what�s going on,� Reyes was saying. �This is important, maybe more important than baseball. We�re not talking about my leg. That�s even worse. I have to be concerned about it.�

Outsiders are no doubt wondering if Reyes is paying the price for his unconventional therapies, which include PRP blood-spinning. He�s been interviewed by the FBI because an association with a Canadian doctor, Tony Galea, who is accused of smuggling HGH into this country.

Reyes denies he�s ever taken HGH, and has never tested positive for steroids. The numerous breakdowns in 2003 and 2004 were never explained. But it�s also true Reyes was healthy for four straight seasons, when no one seemed to doubt him anymore.

In 2006 the Mets had one of the five best players in the National League, when he hit 19 home runs, stole an NL-best 64 bases and rapped 17 triples. Best of all, Reyes was only 23.

Today, he�s a little older and lot more bewildered.

�I just have to find out what�s going on,� Reyes said. He�s hoping for the best but, like anyone reaching for the door to the doctor�s office, fearing the worst.


Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
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As per Adam Rubin on the "Surfing the Mets" blog(and a few others):

Jose Reyes was at the Hospital for Special Surgery this morning. The Mets don't expect results for 24 to 48 hours. Reyes will be under orders not to do physical exertion at least until then.


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Removing the thyroid and taking a daily pill can be easier than regulating the hormones, especially if it turns out to be Graves disease


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Removing the thyroid and taking a daily pill can be easier than regulating the hormones, especially if it turns out to be Graves disease
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and chapter 2 of the drama between the bizarre triangle of player, doctors, and team continues to unfold this season. chapter 1 being beltran.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2010/news/story?id=4980758

Reyes' thyroid condition debated

The New York Mets say Jose Reyes has an overactive thyroid, but the shortstop isn't buying it.

The team said on Tuesday that Reyes is expected to remain in New York while the results of additional blood tests are used to determine his treatment after tests confirmed he has an overactive thyroid.

But Reyes told ESPNDeportes.com's Enrique Rojas later Tuesday: "The specialists who took care of me in New York have told me that I'm fine and that there's nothing wrong with my thyroid. The test [taken to follow one conducted during his physical] showed that I'm fine. We just have to wait for the results of the additional test. The [doctors] found inflammation in my throat and no medicine to treat the thyroid or any other condition has been prescribed."

Doctors cleared Reyes to play Friday. But team doctors in New York wanted to take a closer look at the speedster and pulled him out of pregame stretching.

Reyes said Friday he felt fine and has not experienced any dizziness, fatigue or any other symptoms of a thyroid problem.

The additional test results aren't expected back before Thursday.

Reyes missed most of last season with an injured right leg.

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report. Enrique Rojas covers baseball for ESPNDeportes.com.


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Seems absolutely normal. The player is itching to go and the team is more cautious. Nothing bizarre there. If anything, being less cautious and letting Ryan Church play (and fly) was bizarre.

I'm not sure why Klapisch article would be aneurysm-inducing. It's the best imitation of writing with perspective I've seen him do in a long time.


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I'm not sure why Klapisch article would be aneurysm-inducing. It's the best imitation of writing with perspective I've seen him do in a long time.[/quote:btqghw9t]

Klapisch writing that is like watching your mailman deliver your mail, then jump up and disappear-- it doesn't compute.


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Ah, I see.

I always knew the guy could write. It's just writing fairly that challenges him. It's almost like he's better than his colleagues but believes distortion and prejudice and scapegoating and beating on whipping boys... well, that's the way the game has to be played, so he's going to play it better than anyone.


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My primary problem with his stuff-- outside of what you'd mentioned-- is his contorting the facts/personalities at play to fit preconceived narratives... it's as if he decides on the story about midway through the fact-collection process, and spends the rest of the time blithely indulging his confirmation bias or, worse, willfully leaving out parts of the narrative that don't fit.

The Reyes thing, I think, is a rare intersection of circumstances-meeting-narrative (Reyes-as-naif, which sorta works here) and a (rare for him) instance of writerly empathy.


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Rubin is hinting this may be winding down.

While the Mets will not comment on the course of action required to treat Jose Reyes until all the test results are in, a source tells the Daily News that Reyes is in reasonably good shape. The most extensive change for Reyes could be a dietary modification � which is pretty insignificant. No radioactive iodine treatment may be required, the source indicated, although the person did not want to conclusively declare that to be the case and end up incorrect later.[/quote:1xbxhp50]


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Joe Posnanski on the Mets and the thyroid of Jose Reyes:

Of course, different people have different ideas about what makes an exciting baseball player. But, in general, the blueprint would look an awful lot like Jose Reyes.

In fact, not that long ago, Bill James and I plotted out a formula (admittedly the formula is a lot more me than Bill -- he just offered suggestions) to try and determine the most exciting players in baseball. I lost that original formula, but I tried to recreate it, taking into account triples (the most exciting play in baseball!), stolen bases, batting average, defensive excitement (subjective) and a couple of other things. I'm pretty sure I created the most wildly flawed formula to appear on the Internet today.

Here then, according to this wildly flawed formula, are the 11 most exciting seasons of the last 25 years:

1. Jose Reyes, 2006.
2. Jose Reyes, 2008

3. Jimmy Rollins, 2007
4. Ichiro Suzuki, 2001
5. Carl Crawford, 2004
6. Jose Reyes, 2007
7. Chuck Knoblauch, 1996.
8. Hanley Ramirez, 2006
9. Tony Gwynn, 1987
10. Tim Raines, 1985
11. Carlos Beltran, 2001.

Obviously, you can create your own formula -- and I hope you will -- but the point is that at least according to one fairly standard view, Reyes defined exciting baseball. He hit lots of triples. He also hit doubles and a few home runs. He led the league in stolen bases three years in a row. He made dazzling plays at shortstop. Sure, there were always people who thought Reyes needed to get on base more and could have been a touch steadier defensively. But that stuff would come! The point with Reyes was excitement. He was exciting. The Mets were exciting.

Anyway, that's how it was in 2006, when Reyes was 23 years old and the Mets won 97 games. That's also how it was in 2007, when Reyes stole 78 bases -- most in 20 years -- and the Mets led the National League East by seven games in mid-September, you know, before losing 12 of their last 17 and blowing it to the Phillies.

Oh well, there was excitement even then. The Mets signed the best pitcher in baseball, Johan Santana. Reyes has probably his best season -- led the league with 204 hits and 19 triples, stole 56 bases. And the Mets led the National League East by 3� games in mid-September, you know, before losing four of their next five and never again getting back into first place.

Sure, the late season fadeouts hurt. They hurt a lot. But -- and it's easy to forget this -- the Mets still looked to be in awfully good shape. Reyes was exciting. Santana was dazzling. Third baseman David Wright was one of the best players in baseball. Center fielder Carlos Beltran was one of the best players in baseball. Carlos Delgado had hit 38 home runs -- the 11th time in 12 years he hit 30-plus homers. Francisco Rodriguez came to New York after he had set the single-season save record in Anaheim -- finally, the Mets had their answer for the Great Rivera.

So, how did it all go so wrong? Just look at the Mets now. They are now arguing over Jose Reyes' thyroid. That's the big story at Mets camp these days. The Mets seem to believe -- based on what they're hearing from doctors -- that Reyes has an overactive thyroid. Reyes seems to believe -- based on what he's hearing from doctors -- that his thyroid is fine. Everybody is waiting for the results from the latest tests. These days, Jose Reyes' thyroid has the third highest Q-Rating in New York, behind only David Paterson and David Letterman. It could get its own show by the weekend.

Of course, the thyroid talk is just an emblem of the Mets' issues -- of Carlos Beltran's knee surgery, of David Wright's power outage, of Carlos Delgado's hip injury, of the surgery Johan Santana had to remove bone chips, of the Mets' abominable 70-92 record last year.*

* The Mets became the first team in baseball history to spend $140 million (well, $149 million and some change) and have a losing record. Here is a list of all the teams to spend $140 million on payroll in a season and their win total:

2009 Mets: 70 wins
2009 Yankees: 103 wins
2008 Yankees: 89 wins
2007 Yankees: 94 wins
2007 Red Sox: 96 wins
2006 Yankees: 97 wins
2005 Yankees: 95 wins
2004 Yankees: 101 wins
2003 Yankees: 101 wins

In other words, the thyroid talk is just the latest in a whole bunch of really weird things to happen to the Mets. Of course, Mets fans -- at least the ones I hear from all the time -- seem to think this is all just part of being ... Mets fans. It's all part of the tradition. The Mets have a proud history of "The Mets Being The Mets" that, of course, goes back to the 1962 team that most people would agree was the worst baseball team of the last 100 years.

The teams that followed were not much better -- until the 1969 Miracle Mets and the 1973 Ya Gotta Believe Mets. Then, the late 1970s, another dreadful lull, that time when Joe Torre came to understand that it's hard to be a genius with Lenny Randle at third, Doug Flynn at second and Craig Swan as your Opening Day starter.

Then, came the great mid-80s Mets that didn't win quite as much as they should have won. Then came the dreadful early 1990s Mets, the good-but-not-good enough late 1990s Mets, the dreadful early 2000s Mets, and finally this team dealing with a spotty lineup, a spotty rotation and a thyroid problem.

The thing is, that if they could stop the bad momentum ... this Mets team has talent. Johan Santana, if he's healthy, is as good as anybody. Beltran appears to be on the mend after knee surgery -- he says that he's feeling better about his knee than he has in years. You would like to believe that David Wright, having worked out whatever swing problems he had last year, will return to being a terrific player. Jason Bay gives the Mets a strong middle-of-the lineup bat. The rotation -- with 20-somethings Mike Pelfrey, John Maine and Oliver Perez -- could be OK, and K-Rod is still a top closer no matter what Goose Gossage may have said about him.*

* I guess Gossage called K-Rod a "clown" because of his theatrics on the field, and K-Rod responded by saying he had never heard of Gossage. So, that went well. Gossage also suggested that while Mariano Rivera is the best "modern reliever," he prefers himself and the 52 saves in which he got at least seven outs. Rivera, he points out, only has two of those. Case closed.

And while this is off-topic, it should be pointed out that Gossage does not have the most seven-out saves in baseball history, and he doesn't have the second most, and he doesn't have the third, fourth, fifth or sixth-most either. One of his teammates, Sparky Lyle, had more.

The list of most saves, 7-or-more outs:

1. Rollie Fingers, 74 saves
2. Dan Quisenberry, 65 saves
3. Gene Garber, 64 saves
4. Hoyt Wilhelm, 61 saves
5. Mike Marshall, 57 saves
6. Sparky Lyle, 56 saves
7. Goose Gossage, 52 saves

8. Lindy McDaniel, 51 saves
9. Bill Campbell, 49 saves
10. Bob Stanley, 48 saves.

And then there's Jose Reyes. He was hurt for almost all of the 2009 season. He has had a rough camp with his thyroid issues and with the FBI questioning him about his connection to Canadian doctor Tony Galea, who has been charged with conspiring to smuggle HgH into the U.S. But here's the thing. He's only 26 years old. He says that he feels healthy. He still has the talent to be one of the most exciting players in the game. And he and the Mets are due for something good ... it has to happen one of these days.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/joe_posnanski/03/10/jose.reyes/


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Now that went off on a few tangents.


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ARGH!

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Agent says Reyes will need to rest for two to eight weeks. So now Mets could be without Reyes and Beltran on Opening Day.


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His agent is saying this?....I see a big cluster fuck going on here with he said they said ....poor Reyes.


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ESPN radio just broke in and said that Omar said Reyes will be out "2 weeks to 2 months" to rest his overactive thryoid.


Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket
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There's detail on Metsblog. I hate the whole thing but this is what pisses me off the most:

Minaya says that when Reyes returns to camp, he will need to be built up again, �as far as running and those types of things,� coming off his injury. He said that this is why he went out and re-signed Alex Cora this offseason.


Oh, FU Omar.


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