Poll: Citi Field Outfield Fences

[Ceetar]

Good that Jeff's on the "Blame Omar, he must've done it" bandwagon.

There will still be a line in dead-center too. It's fine. Shea used to have a line too.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Good that Jeff's on the "Blame Omar, he must've done it" bandwagon.

I wonder how that quote was elicited.

Press: Jeff, do you feel any personal regret over the re-design of Citi Field's walls, being that you implemented the original dimensions?

JW: The original impetus to design such a big playing field came from the previous Mets regime headed by Omar Minaya, who was the general manager from the 2005 season through 2010.

Press: But you owned the team in 2005. You owned the regime. Didn't you have final approval over the design? And Wasn't Minaya merely implementing your vision?

JW: The original impetus to design such a big playing field came from the previous Mets regime headed by Omar Minaya, who was the general manager from the 2005 season through 2010.

Press: Is today Monday?

JW: The original impetus to design such a big playing field came from the previous Mets regime headed by Omar Minaya, who was the general manager from the 2005 season through 2010.

[metirish]

The Wilson's are blameless in everything, what a piece of shit Jefferey is.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Saul Katz announces that large dimensions will continue to exist in his ballsack.

[Edgy MD]

The new Mo Zone.



It's now the Shmoe Zone, apparently. Only white people allowed.

[Edgy MD]

Leftfield seats:



Won't that fence extension interfere with attempted Endys?

[G-Fafif]

"You'd be lying if you said you enjoyed hitting at Citi Field," Wright said. "I don't think anybody would say they enjoyed hitting in such a pitchers' ballpark. I don't think we ever looked at the field and it intimidated us. But obviously it's frustrating at times when you hit a ball good and you don't see the results that you want to see."

Polite Wrightspeak for "Oh my fucking god, I so fucking hated hitting in that fucking canyon. It's about fucking time they fixed it. Maybe Bay will get his head out of his ass, too, while we're at it."

[Ceetar]

G-Fafif wrote: "You'd be lying if you said you enjoyed hitting at Citi Field," Wright said. "I don't think anybody would say they enjoyed hitting in such a pitchers' ballpark. I don't think we ever looked at the field and it intimidated us. But obviously it's frustrating at times when you hit a ball good and you don't see the results that you want to see." Polite Wrightspeak for "Oh my fucking god, I so fucking hated hitting in that fucking canyon. It's about fucking time they fixed it. Maybe Bay will get his head out of his ass, too, while we're at it."

I'm kind of tired of Wright whining about this issue. Whether or not it significantly impacts offense, I hope Wright smacks a couple out early in April so he can think it made a huge difference.

I wonder if they've adjusted the Citi Field replica field down in Port St. Lucie.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Here you can really see the difference between hitting above that red Modell's sign and clearing the top of the new fence.

[Edgy MD]

I said this above, but isn't that railing --- unless I'm misreading the depth --- going to interfere with players reaching over the fence.

[Ceetar]

Edgy DC wrote: I said this above, but isn't that railing --- unless I'm misreading the depth --- going to interfere with players reaching over the fence.

in left, sure. But not sure that was ever a concern.

[Edgy MD]

Well, I'm concerned now.

[Benjamin Grimm]

The rail seems to be set back a bit behind the orange line. I think an outfielder will be able to steal a homer, but he might bump his glove on the railing.

I take it, though, that you're talking about the super-dramatic catch where the outfielder hoists himself onto the fence and then reaches deep into home run territory to make the catch. It does look like the railing would prevent that.

[Edgy MD]

Well, eight feet is pretty climbable for an athletic outfielder. I picture a guy running and climbing and jumping full bore and slamming his glove against the rail, or a ball ricocheting off the rail and hitting an outfielder in the head who was trying to make a play. I'd hope it's set back at least two and half feet, but it looks closer to about 12 inches. And it seems to me guys who pull back homers tend to reach more than 12 inches over the fence.

Sufficient reach-over room is what I'm talking about. It can be achieved, to my thinking, but just building the walking sitting surface lower, so the rail is no higher than the level of the top of the outfield wall.

But maybe it really isn't and I'm just misreading the perspective.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Even Ramon Castro would be able to rob a would be HR off of an eight foot high wall. (For comparison's sake, a basketball rim is 10 feet off the ground). I'm guessing that the depth or thickness of the new walls won't interfere with HR robbing plays. Those renderings are just that -- renderings not based on official measurements.

[G-Fafif]

Does extending the Mo's Zone inward negate the ersatz Tiger Stadium Pepsi Porch effect J. Wilpon so craved from his childhood summers in Michigan?

[Ceetar]

G-Fafif wrote: Does extending the Mo's Zone inward negate the ersatz Tiger Stadium Pepsi Porch effect J. Wilpon so craved from his childhood summers in Michigan?

pretty much. might be a foot or so left. I was always kind of disappointed by it. I like the Porch but I always felt it needed to hang over another couple of feet.

[batmagadanleadoff]

G-Fafif wrote: Does extending the Mo's Zone inward negate the ersatz Tiger Stadium Pepsi Porch effect J. Wilpon so craved from his childhood summers in Michigan?

I hope so. And it's gonna look Little Rascalish what with these piecemeal ramshackle extensions, changes and additions. This is what happens when you let some unqualified hack play Frank Lloyd Wright with his daddy's money. I'm just grateful that Fred Jr. merely summered in Detroit. Because otherwise we'd have what? An Al Kaline rotunda?

And the two ugly scoreboards are too close to each other.

[Centerfield]

Edgy DC wrote: Well, eight feet is pretty climbable for an athletic outfielder. I picture a guy running and climbing and jumping full bore and slamming his glove against the rail, or a ball ricocheting off the rail and hitting an outfielder in the head who was trying to make a play. I'd hope it's set back at least two and half feet, but it looks closer to about 12 inches. And it seems to me guys who pull back homers tend to reach more than 12 inches over the fence. Sufficient reach-over room is what I'm talking about. It can be achieved, to my thinking, but just building the walking sitting surface lower, so the rail is no higher than the level of the top of the outfield wall. But maybe it really isn't and I'm just misreading the perspective.

I'm with you Edgy. They need to move that railing back. Endy's entire arm was behind the fence in 2006.

[Gwreck]

The problem there is that they have the access tunnel in left-center field which means they can't lower the "floor" on which those new seats sit.

[Edgy MD]

Well, that access tunnel can't be under the whole thing. It's not build yet.

is this running end-to-end underneath the thing or perpendicular and intersecting?

[Ceetar]

[Ceetar]

[Frayed Knot]

Mostly those new seats will probably generate them some more revenue.
Not quite as much say as the 'Monster Seats' in Fenway but along those lines.

Now they just have to come up with a catchy name for them.
The 'Endy Boxes' maybe. Or how about; 'Jason's Bay'?

[Edgy MD]

Well, those would appear to be more-or less perpendicular, so I would propose not putting any seats on top of them at all, and place the stairways over them.

If there's a problem, yo, I'll solve it.
Check out the beat while the DJ revolves it.

[Guest attgig]

Centerfield wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Well, eight feet is pretty climbable for an athletic outfielder. I picture a guy running and climbing and jumping full bore and slamming his glove against the rail, or a ball ricocheting off the rail and hitting an outfielder in the head who was trying to make a play. I'd hope it's set back at least two and half feet, but it looks closer to about 12 inches. And it seems to me guys who pull back homers tend to reach more than 12 inches over the fence. Sufficient reach-over room is what I'm talking about. It can be achieved, to my thinking, but just building the walking sitting surface lower, so the rail is no higher than the level of the top of the outfield wall. But maybe it really isn't and I'm just misreading the perspective. I'm with you Edgy. They need to move that railing back. Endy's entire arm was behind the fence in 2006.

I can see some replays happening with that LF fence. ball hits the glove and glove hits the fence, and ball pops out. did it pop out of the glove and go back to the field, or did it touch the fence before coming back.

just asking for problems...

[Edgy MD]

What's this I hear about the Mets
bringing in their feces?

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

nefit?

[Edgy MD]

If there's a name, it'll undoubtedly be the Verizon Veranda or the Costco Cloister or the Bank One Balcony. You can take that to the bank.

You can take that to Bank One, in fact.

[Ceetar]

Edgy DC wrote: If there's a name, it'll undoubtedly be the Verizon Veranda or the Costco Cloister or the Bank One Balcony. You can take that to the bank. You can take that to Bank One, in fact.

Anything that contributes to the #paytheman fund is okay in my book.