MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=9763As if we didn't suspect the team that had the most.Later
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 It's not just the number of games lost, it's the pct of salaries eaten up by the DL. 29% of total payroll in the Mets' case (no one else looks all that close) - most of which was obviously a result of the long-term absences of Reyes, Beltran & Delgado.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 Santanny's got to be a meaningful piece of that also. Only five weeks but still.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 Comparing days lost by the Mets and Phillies1451546Hard to compete
metsmarathon Old-Timey Member Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 and yet, our "on the field" salary was still like 4th highest in the majors. the phillies payroll was $113M, and they lost $11.5M to injury, leaving them with an on-the-field salary of $102Mthe mets payroll was $149.4M, and they lost $43.7M to injury, leaving them with an on-the-field salary of $105.7Mlooked at in that fashion, the season kindof hurts extra.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 Interesting. I wonder how that $43,734,000 (geez that's a lot of money) breaks down?What was Putz's salary? That probably amounts to a decent chunk of it, since he missed most of the season.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 Wagner also. I too am curious as to the breakdown.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 Interesting. I wonder how that $43,734,000 (geez that's a lot of money) breaks down?What was Putz's salary? That probably amounts to a decent chunk of it, since he missed most of the season.[/quote:fe67u1yh]Putz - $6 millionDelgado - $12 millionReyes - $6.125 millionBeltran - $19 million +Santana - $18 million +Wagner - $10.5Who else?
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 Oliver Perez.Also, a couple of weeks of David Wright.We'd then have to prorate those amounts by number of days missed, add them up, and see how close we are to the $43 million.EDIT: Also, John Maine missed a lot of time, but his salary wouldn't be in the neighborhood of those other guys.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 Putz - $6 millionDelgado - $12 millionReyes - $6.125 millionBeltran - $19,243,682Santana - $18,876,139Wagner - $10.5Perez - $12 millionWright - $7.75 millionMaine - $2,600,000Who else?
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 Lots else.Let's do this together. I'll figure out Wagner.He was activated August 20. Wagner made $10,500,000. The Mets had played 120 games through that date. $10,500,000 X (120/162) = $7,777,777.78.Boom.
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 Lots else.Let's do this together. I'll figure out Wagner.He was activated August 20. Wagner made $10,500,000. The Mets had played 120 games through that date. $10,500,000 X (120/162) = $7,777,777.78.Boom.
Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Guests Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 Carlos Voltron: Deactivated June 22. Cleared to play September 8. Missed 64 games (including three games missed pre-DL stint, not including "rest" games after his return). 64/162 x 18.5M* = $7,308,642 (or, if 19.5M, $7,602,443)*Low estimate, as per Cots.
Chad ochoseis Old-Timey Member Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 The Schneid was out from April 16 through May 30 at $4.9M per year. (40/162)(4.9M) = $1,209,877
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 I have Reyes down for $4,574,845 (missed 121 games) and Delgado for $9,333,333 (missed 126 games).
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 OK, good work. We're getting there.PlayerMoney for NothingBeltran$7,602,443.00DelgadoMaineReyes$4,574,845.00PerezPutzSantanaSchneider$1,209,877.00Wagner$7,777,777.78WrightTotal$21,164,942.78
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 You missed Delgado...PlayerMoney for NothingBeltran$7,602,443.00Delgado$9,333,333.33MaineReyes$4,574,845.68PerezPutzSantanaSchneider$1,209,877.00Wagner$7,777,777.78WrightTotal$30,498,276.79Also, I didn't realize we were taking this to the penny, so I had shorted Delgado by 33 cents and Reyes by 68 cents. That's been fixed, above.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 In addition to the players listed above, these Mets also spent time on the DL in 2009:Angel Pagan, Tim Redding, Alex Cora, Ryan Church, Ramon Martinez, Fernando Martinez, Jon Niese, Fernando Nieve, and Gary Sheffield.
TransMonk Old-Timey Member Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 Putz earned $6,000,000 but last pitched on 6/4/09 leaving the Mets with 110 games without his services. (110/162)(6,000,000)= $4,074,074.07
TransMonk Old-Timey Member Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 Santana earned $18,876,139 but last pitched on 8/20/09 leaving the Mets with 41 games without his services. (41/162)(18,876,139)= $4,777,294.44
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 Fernando Nieve called up June 5. They had 52 games behind them and 110 games left. But his contract was a major league one when he was claimed off waivers, so I think the whole season counts toward their payroll.So, he's paid $414,000. He goes down July 19. KaBOOM! went his thigh. The Mets had played 91 games at that point and had 71 left $414,000 x 71/162 = $181,444.44.If you don't buy that, and think only the salary he got after his callup counts against Met payroll, well, it doesn't matter, because all his injury time does, injured as he was while on the big league roster..
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 And we're over $30 million.PlayerMoney for NothingBeltran$7,602,443.00ChurchCoraDelgadoMaineF. MartinezR. MartinezNieseNieve$181,444.44PaganPerezPutz$4,074,074.07ReddingReyes$4,574,845.00Santana$4,777,294.44Schneider$1,209,877.00SheffieldWagner$7,777,777.78WrightTotal$30,197,755.73Castro stayed off the DL? Classick!
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 We're well above that. You're still missing 68 cents from Reyes, and $9,333,333.33 from Delgado.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 You missed Delgado...PlayerMoney for NothingBeltran$7,602,443.00Delgado$9,333,333.33MaineReyes$4,574,845.68PerezPutzSantanaSchneider$1,209,877.00Wagner$7,777,777.78WrightTotal$30,498,276.79Also, I didn't realize we were taking this to the penny, so I had shorted Delgado by 33 cents and Reyes by 68 cents. That's been fixed, above.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 Delgupdated:PlayerMoney for NothingBeltran$7,602,443.00ChurchCoraDelgado$9,333,333.33MaineF. MartinezR. MartinezNieseNieve$181,444.44PaganPerezPutz$4,074,074.07ReddingReyes$4,574,845.68Santana$4,777,294.44Schneider$1,209,877.00SheffieldWagner$7,777,777.78WrightTotal$39,531,089.74
Guest Number 6 Guests Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 Ryan Church is a little tricky (but not very) due to the trade. At a salary of 2.8 million, he was traded between games on July 9th and July 11th, meaning he was present for 67 of the team's 162 games, for a Mets salary of $1,158,024.60. He missed 13 games between May 22nd and June 7th, leaving the Mets with $224,691.35 lost to his injury.Edit: messed up the Mets salary at first, but the result is the same.
Guest Number 6 Guests Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 David Wright missed 15 games between August 15th and September 1st. At a salary of $7.5 million, this missed time amounts to $694,444.44 in sunk cash.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 Excellent.Alex Cora, anybubby?PlayerMoney for NothingBeltran$7,602,443.00Church$224.691.35CoraDelgado$9,333,333.33MaineF. MartinezR. MartinezNieseNieve$181,444.44PaganPerezPutz$4,074,074.07ReddingReyes$4,574,845.68Santana$4,777,294.44Schneider$1,209,877.00SheffieldWagner$7,777,777.78Wright$694,444.44Total$40,450,225.53
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 Alex Cora spent two stints on the DL, missing 13 games in late May and then the final 48 games of the season.So he was DL'd for 61 of 162 games (or .37654321 of the season) which, at a salary of $2mil, means $753,086.42 of lost salaryFernando Martinez was called up on 6/22 in time for game 45 of the seasonHe was then DL'd after game 79 - meaning he was available for just 35 games (inclusively) of the possible 117 he was on a ML roster at the minimum pay of $400K/year. So missing 82 of 117 games means .7008547 x $400,000 = $280.341.88 of squandered payroll
Chad ochoseis Old-Timey Member Posted November 16, 2009 Posted November 16, 2009 Ollie Perez...dl'ed May 3 through July 8. 60 games. (60/162)(12M) = $4,444,444.44, which I think puts us over the top.
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