Fman99 Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 Mark Buehrle perfect through 7 against the Rays today, in a Chicago matinee. Going to listen to the rest on XM while driving to the golf course.
HahnSolo Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 Now 3 outs from perfection.Perhaps more remarkable is that Ramon Castro is 3 outs from catching a perfect game.
HahnSolo Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 One out away, and Jason Bartlett up.
Guest themetfairy Guests Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 ="Fman99":35x8j7af]Mark Buehrle perfect through 7 against the Rays today, in a Chicago matinee. Going to listen to the rest on XM while driving to the golf course.[/quote:35x8j7af]Thanks for the heads up. MK and I watched the top of the 9th together. Wise's catch for the first out was amazing!This reminds me why I love the game of baseball - I had no particular rooting interest in this game, but it was fun watching history being made. And watching it along with my son made it all the better.metirish Jul 23 2009 02:17 PMGreat for him .Farmer Ted Jul 23 2009 02:17 PMTrade for him NOW!!OlerudOwned Jul 23 2009 02:18 PMThat catch by Dewayne Wise was, dare I say, Endyesque.seawolf17 Jul 23 2009 02:20 PMApparently, our trip last Friday to US Cellular Field was about six days too early.Congrats to Buehrle.John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 23 2009 02:22 PMNice. Buerhle was like a 40th round draft pick or something.smg58 Jul 23 2009 02:36 PM="John Cougar Lunchbucket":3ame3h29]Nice. Buerhle was like a 40th round draft pick or something.[/quote:3ame3h29]And as we know from what certain reporters have said concerning Mike Piazza, people drafted that late can't possibly succeed without cheating.Seriously though, congrats to Mr. Buehrle. He doesn't come across as a likely guy to throw no-hitters (he pitches to contact), but now he has two. Chalk another one up for finesse pitchers.Frayed Knot Jul 23 2009 06:39 PM="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1ljtutc3]Nice. Buerhle was like a 40th round draft pick or something.[/quote:1ljtutc3]Wow, 38th to be specific, in 1998 out of Jefferson College in Missouri.Then he didn't sign until just before the following year's draft (so it must have been a 2-year college) but made it to the majors just over a year after that and was a full-timer (and 16 game winner) by his second season at age 22.That's some nice progress out of a late-round pick.Meanwhile he pitches 200+ innings and 30+ starts every single year for 8 seasons- has a 133 - 90 record plus a sub-4.00 career ERA (3.78) in the AL, in this era, and in a hitters' park- looks like he had only 1 off year (in 2006 - the year after the Sox WS win) when he recorded his only ERA over 4.1 (4.99) and his only losing season- and 4 AS teams and a top-5 CY year and just turned 30Nice and even slightly under-the-radar pitcher that probably get over-looked by some of us NL fans.And maybe the best thing about him is the guy almost always pitches quick-ass games. Obviously today's game is special but it clocked in at a tidy 2:03 and a lot of his aren't much longer.metirish Jul 23 2009 07:56 PMI just watched some of the videos on the MLB app , wow , what a catch by Wise. Not sure if it was the home team announcers that had the call on the final out , but I think it was."yes , yes , yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees , yeeeeeeeeeeees...."I guess these guys have no idea what they are going to say until the "moment". I know Howie Rose immediately after his Matteau , Matteau , Matteau call he questioned himself right away and in fact thought he had ruined the call, felt embarrassed he said until he started hearing all the positive feedback.Edgy DC Jul 24 2009 07:32 AMYeah, how about that when defensive replacements hold up their end of the bargain?Amazing.Nymr83 Jul 24 2009 07:44 AM="Frayed Knot":1zpxpp3f]Meanwhile he pitches 200+ innings and 30+ starts every single year for 8 seasons- has a 133 - 90 record plus a sub-4.00 career ERA (3.78) in the AL, in this era, and in a hitters' park- looks like he had only 1 off year (in 2006 - the year after the Sox WS win) when he recorded his only ERA over 4.1 (4.99) and his only losing season- and 4 AS teams and a top-5 CY year and just turned 30Nice and even slightly under-the-radar pitcher that probably get over-looked by some of us NL fans.And maybe the best thing about him is the guy almost always pitches quick-ass games. Obviously today's game is special but it clocked in at a tidy 2:03 and a lot of his aren't much longer.[/quote:1zpxpp3f]he's remarkably consistent and very good, he really needs to run off a GREAT season or two to start getting some HOF attention, or he'll fall into the Blyleven-trap of being very good but not attracting the dinosaurs writers who get to vote.LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 24 2009 09:42 AM="Nymr83":2qot5tn4]="Frayed Knot":2qot5tn4]Meanwhile he pitches 200+ innings and 30+ starts every single year for 8 seasons- has a 133 - 90 record plus a sub-4.00 career ERA (3.78) in the AL, in this era, and in a hitters' park- looks like he had only 1 off year (in 2006 - the year after the Sox WS win) when he recorded his only ERA over 4.1 (4.99) and his only losing season- and 4 AS teams and a top-5 CY year and just turned 30Nice and even slightly under-the-radar pitcher that probably get over-looked by some of us NL fans.And maybe the best thing about him is the guy almost always pitches quick-ass games. Obviously today's game is special but it clocked in at a tidy 2:03 and a lot of his aren't much longer.[/quote:2qot5tn4]he's remarkably consistent and very good, he really needs to run off a GREAT season or two to start getting some HOF attention, or he'll fall into the Blyleven-trap of being very good but not attracting the dinosaurs writers who get to vote.[/quote:2qot5tn4]Buerhle's a solid pitcher, quite capable of amazing things.Bert Blyleven was a much, MUCH better pitcher than Mark Buerhle.Nymr83 Jul 24 2009 10:59 AMTotally off on a tangent here, one of Buehrle's "comparables" on B-R is our old friend Frank Viola, he had a nice career and a pretty good year for the Mets, where he finished 3rd in the CY Young voting behind Drabek and Ramon Martinez, can anyone explain how the hell Drabek cobbered Martinez in the voting that year? Martinez looks like he had the better year.[url:3ek53wb5]http://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/awards_1990.shtml[/url:3ek53wb5]
Guest OlerudOwned Guests Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 That catch by Dewayne Wise was, dare I say, Endyesque.
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 Apparently, our trip last Friday to US Cellular Field was about six days too early.Congrats to Buehrle.
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 Nice. Buerhle was like a 40th round draft pick or something.
smg58 Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":3ame3h29]Nice. Buerhle was like a 40th round draft pick or something.[/quote:3ame3h29]And as we know from what certain reporters have said concerning Mike Piazza, people drafted that late can't possibly succeed without cheating.Seriously though, congrats to Mr. Buehrle. He doesn't come across as a likely guy to throw no-hitters (he pitches to contact), but now he has two. Chalk another one up for finesse pitchers.Frayed Knot Jul 23 2009 06:39 PM="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1ljtutc3]Nice. Buerhle was like a 40th round draft pick or something.[/quote:1ljtutc3]Wow, 38th to be specific, in 1998 out of Jefferson College in Missouri.Then he didn't sign until just before the following year's draft (so it must have been a 2-year college) but made it to the majors just over a year after that and was a full-timer (and 16 game winner) by his second season at age 22.That's some nice progress out of a late-round pick.Meanwhile he pitches 200+ innings and 30+ starts every single year for 8 seasons- has a 133 - 90 record plus a sub-4.00 career ERA (3.78) in the AL, in this era, and in a hitters' park- looks like he had only 1 off year (in 2006 - the year after the Sox WS win) when he recorded his only ERA over 4.1 (4.99) and his only losing season- and 4 AS teams and a top-5 CY year and just turned 30Nice and even slightly under-the-radar pitcher that probably get over-looked by some of us NL fans.And maybe the best thing about him is the guy almost always pitches quick-ass games. Obviously today's game is special but it clocked in at a tidy 2:03 and a lot of his aren't much longer.metirish Jul 23 2009 07:56 PMI just watched some of the videos on the MLB app , wow , what a catch by Wise. Not sure if it was the home team announcers that had the call on the final out , but I think it was."yes , yes , yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees , yeeeeeeeeeeees...."I guess these guys have no idea what they are going to say until the "moment". I know Howie Rose immediately after his Matteau , Matteau , Matteau call he questioned himself right away and in fact thought he had ruined the call, felt embarrassed he said until he started hearing all the positive feedback.Edgy DC Jul 24 2009 07:32 AMYeah, how about that when defensive replacements hold up their end of the bargain?Amazing.Nymr83 Jul 24 2009 07:44 AM="Frayed Knot":1zpxpp3f]Meanwhile he pitches 200+ innings and 30+ starts every single year for 8 seasons- has a 133 - 90 record plus a sub-4.00 career ERA (3.78) in the AL, in this era, and in a hitters' park- looks like he had only 1 off year (in 2006 - the year after the Sox WS win) when he recorded his only ERA over 4.1 (4.99) and his only losing season- and 4 AS teams and a top-5 CY year and just turned 30Nice and even slightly under-the-radar pitcher that probably get over-looked by some of us NL fans.And maybe the best thing about him is the guy almost always pitches quick-ass games. Obviously today's game is special but it clocked in at a tidy 2:03 and a lot of his aren't much longer.[/quote:1zpxpp3f]he's remarkably consistent and very good, he really needs to run off a GREAT season or two to start getting some HOF attention, or he'll fall into the Blyleven-trap of being very good but not attracting the dinosaurs writers who get to vote.LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 24 2009 09:42 AM="Nymr83":2qot5tn4]="Frayed Knot":2qot5tn4]Meanwhile he pitches 200+ innings and 30+ starts every single year for 8 seasons- has a 133 - 90 record plus a sub-4.00 career ERA (3.78) in the AL, in this era, and in a hitters' park- looks like he had only 1 off year (in 2006 - the year after the Sox WS win) when he recorded his only ERA over 4.1 (4.99) and his only losing season- and 4 AS teams and a top-5 CY year and just turned 30Nice and even slightly under-the-radar pitcher that probably get over-looked by some of us NL fans.And maybe the best thing about him is the guy almost always pitches quick-ass games. Obviously today's game is special but it clocked in at a tidy 2:03 and a lot of his aren't much longer.[/quote:2qot5tn4]he's remarkably consistent and very good, he really needs to run off a GREAT season or two to start getting some HOF attention, or he'll fall into the Blyleven-trap of being very good but not attracting the dinosaurs writers who get to vote.[/quote:2qot5tn4]Buerhle's a solid pitcher, quite capable of amazing things.Bert Blyleven was a much, MUCH better pitcher than Mark Buerhle.Nymr83 Jul 24 2009 10:59 AMTotally off on a tangent here, one of Buehrle's "comparables" on B-R is our old friend Frank Viola, he had a nice career and a pretty good year for the Mets, where he finished 3rd in the CY Young voting behind Drabek and Ramon Martinez, can anyone explain how the hell Drabek cobbered Martinez in the voting that year? Martinez looks like he had the better year.[url:3ek53wb5]http://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/awards_1990.shtml[/url:3ek53wb5]
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1ljtutc3]Nice. Buerhle was like a 40th round draft pick or something.[/quote:1ljtutc3]Wow, 38th to be specific, in 1998 out of Jefferson College in Missouri.Then he didn't sign until just before the following year's draft (so it must have been a 2-year college) but made it to the majors just over a year after that and was a full-timer (and 16 game winner) by his second season at age 22.That's some nice progress out of a late-round pick.Meanwhile he pitches 200+ innings and 30+ starts every single year for 8 seasons- has a 133 - 90 record plus a sub-4.00 career ERA (3.78) in the AL, in this era, and in a hitters' park- looks like he had only 1 off year (in 2006 - the year after the Sox WS win) when he recorded his only ERA over 4.1 (4.99) and his only losing season- and 4 AS teams and a top-5 CY year and just turned 30Nice and even slightly under-the-radar pitcher that probably get over-looked by some of us NL fans.And maybe the best thing about him is the guy almost always pitches quick-ass games. Obviously today's game is special but it clocked in at a tidy 2:03 and a lot of his aren't much longer.metirish Jul 23 2009 07:56 PMI just watched some of the videos on the MLB app , wow , what a catch by Wise. Not sure if it was the home team announcers that had the call on the final out , but I think it was."yes , yes , yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees , yeeeeeeeeeeees...."I guess these guys have no idea what they are going to say until the "moment". I know Howie Rose immediately after his Matteau , Matteau , Matteau call he questioned himself right away and in fact thought he had ruined the call, felt embarrassed he said until he started hearing all the positive feedback.Edgy DC Jul 24 2009 07:32 AMYeah, how about that when defensive replacements hold up their end of the bargain?Amazing.Nymr83 Jul 24 2009 07:44 AM="Frayed Knot":1zpxpp3f]Meanwhile he pitches 200+ innings and 30+ starts every single year for 8 seasons- has a 133 - 90 record plus a sub-4.00 career ERA (3.78) in the AL, in this era, and in a hitters' park- looks like he had only 1 off year (in 2006 - the year after the Sox WS win) when he recorded his only ERA over 4.1 (4.99) and his only losing season- and 4 AS teams and a top-5 CY year and just turned 30Nice and even slightly under-the-radar pitcher that probably get over-looked by some of us NL fans.And maybe the best thing about him is the guy almost always pitches quick-ass games. Obviously today's game is special but it clocked in at a tidy 2:03 and a lot of his aren't much longer.[/quote:1zpxpp3f]he's remarkably consistent and very good, he really needs to run off a GREAT season or two to start getting some HOF attention, or he'll fall into the Blyleven-trap of being very good but not attracting the dinosaurs writers who get to vote.LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 24 2009 09:42 AM="Nymr83":2qot5tn4]="Frayed Knot":2qot5tn4]Meanwhile he pitches 200+ innings and 30+ starts every single year for 8 seasons- has a 133 - 90 record plus a sub-4.00 career ERA (3.78) in the AL, in this era, and in a hitters' park- looks like he had only 1 off year (in 2006 - the year after the Sox WS win) when he recorded his only ERA over 4.1 (4.99) and his only losing season- and 4 AS teams and a top-5 CY year and just turned 30Nice and even slightly under-the-radar pitcher that probably get over-looked by some of us NL fans.And maybe the best thing about him is the guy almost always pitches quick-ass games. Obviously today's game is special but it clocked in at a tidy 2:03 and a lot of his aren't much longer.[/quote:2qot5tn4]he's remarkably consistent and very good, he really needs to run off a GREAT season or two to start getting some HOF attention, or he'll fall into the Blyleven-trap of being very good but not attracting the dinosaurs writers who get to vote.[/quote:2qot5tn4]Buerhle's a solid pitcher, quite capable of amazing things.Bert Blyleven was a much, MUCH better pitcher than Mark Buerhle.Nymr83 Jul 24 2009 10:59 AMTotally off on a tangent here, one of Buehrle's "comparables" on B-R is our old friend Frank Viola, he had a nice career and a pretty good year for the Mets, where he finished 3rd in the CY Young voting behind Drabek and Ramon Martinez, can anyone explain how the hell Drabek cobbered Martinez in the voting that year? Martinez looks like he had the better year.[url:3ek53wb5]http://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/awards_1990.shtml[/url:3ek53wb5]
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted July 23, 2009 Posted July 23, 2009 I just watched some of the videos on the MLB app , wow , what a catch by Wise. Not sure if it was the home team announcers that had the call on the final out , but I think it was."yes , yes , yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees , yeeeeeeeeeeees...."I guess these guys have no idea what they are going to say until the "moment". I know Howie Rose immediately after his Matteau , Matteau , Matteau call he questioned himself right away and in fact thought he had ruined the call, felt embarrassed he said until he started hearing all the positive feedback.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 Yeah, how about that when defensive replacements hold up their end of the bargain?Amazing.
nymr83 Old-Timey Member Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 ="Frayed Knot":1zpxpp3f]Meanwhile he pitches 200+ innings and 30+ starts every single year for 8 seasons- has a 133 - 90 record plus a sub-4.00 career ERA (3.78) in the AL, in this era, and in a hitters' park- looks like he had only 1 off year (in 2006 - the year after the Sox WS win) when he recorded his only ERA over 4.1 (4.99) and his only losing season- and 4 AS teams and a top-5 CY year and just turned 30Nice and even slightly under-the-radar pitcher that probably get over-looked by some of us NL fans.And maybe the best thing about him is the guy almost always pitches quick-ass games. Obviously today's game is special but it clocked in at a tidy 2:03 and a lot of his aren't much longer.[/quote:1zpxpp3f]he's remarkably consistent and very good, he really needs to run off a GREAT season or two to start getting some HOF attention, or he'll fall into the Blyleven-trap of being very good but not attracting the dinosaurs writers who get to vote.LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 24 2009 09:42 AM="Nymr83":2qot5tn4]="Frayed Knot":2qot5tn4]Meanwhile he pitches 200+ innings and 30+ starts every single year for 8 seasons- has a 133 - 90 record plus a sub-4.00 career ERA (3.78) in the AL, in this era, and in a hitters' park- looks like he had only 1 off year (in 2006 - the year after the Sox WS win) when he recorded his only ERA over 4.1 (4.99) and his only losing season- and 4 AS teams and a top-5 CY year and just turned 30Nice and even slightly under-the-radar pitcher that probably get over-looked by some of us NL fans.And maybe the best thing about him is the guy almost always pitches quick-ass games. Obviously today's game is special but it clocked in at a tidy 2:03 and a lot of his aren't much longer.[/quote:2qot5tn4]he's remarkably consistent and very good, he really needs to run off a GREAT season or two to start getting some HOF attention, or he'll fall into the Blyleven-trap of being very good but not attracting the dinosaurs writers who get to vote.[/quote:2qot5tn4]Buerhle's a solid pitcher, quite capable of amazing things.Bert Blyleven was a much, MUCH better pitcher than Mark Buerhle.Nymr83 Jul 24 2009 10:59 AMTotally off on a tangent here, one of Buehrle's "comparables" on B-R is our old friend Frank Viola, he had a nice career and a pretty good year for the Mets, where he finished 3rd in the CY Young voting behind Drabek and Ramon Martinez, can anyone explain how the hell Drabek cobbered Martinez in the voting that year? Martinez looks like he had the better year.[url:3ek53wb5]http://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/awards_1990.shtml[/url:3ek53wb5]
Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Guests Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 ="Nymr83":2qot5tn4]="Frayed Knot":2qot5tn4]Meanwhile he pitches 200+ innings and 30+ starts every single year for 8 seasons- has a 133 - 90 record plus a sub-4.00 career ERA (3.78) in the AL, in this era, and in a hitters' park- looks like he had only 1 off year (in 2006 - the year after the Sox WS win) when he recorded his only ERA over 4.1 (4.99) and his only losing season- and 4 AS teams and a top-5 CY year and just turned 30Nice and even slightly under-the-radar pitcher that probably get over-looked by some of us NL fans.And maybe the best thing about him is the guy almost always pitches quick-ass games. Obviously today's game is special but it clocked in at a tidy 2:03 and a lot of his aren't much longer.[/quote:2qot5tn4]he's remarkably consistent and very good, he really needs to run off a GREAT season or two to start getting some HOF attention, or he'll fall into the Blyleven-trap of being very good but not attracting the dinosaurs writers who get to vote.[/quote:2qot5tn4]Buerhle's a solid pitcher, quite capable of amazing things.Bert Blyleven was a much, MUCH better pitcher than Mark Buerhle.Nymr83 Jul 24 2009 10:59 AMTotally off on a tangent here, one of Buehrle's "comparables" on B-R is our old friend Frank Viola, he had a nice career and a pretty good year for the Mets, where he finished 3rd in the CY Young voting behind Drabek and Ramon Martinez, can anyone explain how the hell Drabek cobbered Martinez in the voting that year? Martinez looks like he had the better year.[url:3ek53wb5]http://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/awards_1990.shtml[/url:3ek53wb5]
nymr83 Old-Timey Member Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 Totally off on a tangent here, one of Buehrle's "comparables" on B-R is our old friend Frank Viola, he had a nice career and a pretty good year for the Mets, where he finished 3rd in the CY Young voting behind Drabek and Ramon Martinez, can anyone explain how the hell Drabek cobbered Martinez in the voting that year? Martinez looks like he had the better year.[url:3ek53wb5]http://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/awards_1990.shtml[/url:3ek53wb5]
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