OBP Trivia

[Benjamin Grimm]

Some of you may have noticed that I've begun posting occasional UMDB trivia questions on Facebook.

It's the kind of stuff I've often posted here. Since we're in the All-Star lull, I figured I might as well double-post today's question:

]TRIVIA QUESTION: This one is in honor of new Met Jeff Francoeur: Who has the worst single-season OBP in Mets history, and in what year? (Minimum 600 plate appearances.) Bonus: Our record-holder is one of only three Mets with 600 PA to have an OBP of less than .300. Can you name the other two players as well? We'll post the answer on Thursday.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

It's that 600 PA getting me.

Jerry Grote, 196something
Rafael Santana, 1986
Frank Taveras, 1979

[seawolf17]

Rey Ordonez, 1999

[Piggiestomatoes]

Dave Kingman, 1982. Have to think about the other two.

[smg58]

Rey never got to 600 PA, or he'd have qualified on multiple occasions.

Doug Flynn, perhaps?

[seawolf17]

Bud Harrelson? He sucked offensively. Say, 1971?

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

No way, man. Bud took the walks.

[dgwphotography]

="smg58":rm1la1gl] Doug Flynn, perhaps?[/quote:rm1la1gl] That's my guess, too

Edgy DC Jul 14 2009 07:32 AM

Got to be Kong82. That 600 PA minimum is going to disqualify a lot of Folis and Oquendos.

Edgy DC Jul 14 2009 07:57 AM

I'll also go with Santana86 and Tavaras79.

Benjamin Grimm Jul 14 2009 09:05 AM

Here's a hint: All three of the above-mentioned sub-.300 OBP seasons were managed, in whole or in part, by the same man.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jul 14 2009 09:16 AM

I don't think Santana got to PA that year... or ever. (I remember him getting spelled a lot by Hojo and Mitchell.) I'm in with the Kingman crowd, until I can think of anything better. Flynn's got to be in there, as well. God... it just occurred to me-- is the third guy Mookie?

Edgy DC Jul 14 2009 10:14 AM

Nah, Mookie was a free-swinger early on, but never went sub-.300.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 14 2009 10:18 AM

Yes so I like the Torre Era and the office of Kingman, Taveras and Flynn

Centerfield Jul 14 2009 10:33 AM

No idea. Al Weis?

Swan Swan H Jul 14 2009 12:16 PM

Agee 68?

Benjamin Grimm Jul 16 2009 05:29 AM

All three of the sub-.300 OBP (min. 600 PA) players played for George Bamberger. The lowest number was posted by Hubie Brooks, with a .284 in 1983. Hubie broke a record set a year earlier, when Dave Kingman had a .285. The third player is George Foster, with .289 in 1983.

Edgy DC Jul 16 2009 06:10 AM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jul 16 2009 08:43 AM

Hubie is the hope that beats in the french heart of the Francoeur supporter.

Mendoza Line Jul 16 2009 08:28 AM

="LeiterWagnerFasterStronger":2mrevrr5]God... it just occurred to me-- is the third guy Mookie?[/quote:2mrevrr5] I never thought of Mookie as being quite that awful at taking walks, but LWFS is technically right. Mookie's 1983 OBP of .300 is rounded up from .299546 (198 total times on base divided by 663 PAs less 2 sac bunts). For the answer, I was thinking Kingman, Flynn, and someone else from the Torre era. But I don't think Kingman ever made it to 600 PAs as a Met in the '70s. smg58 Jul 16 2009 08:38 AM You know, given some of the names in the Mets' 82-83 lineup, it's actually impressive how categorically awful they were. Edgy DC Jul 16 2009 08:44 AM ="Mendoza Line":4hefu5ed] ="LeiterWagnerFasterStronger":4hefu5ed]God... it just occurred to me-- is the third guy Mookie?[/quote:4hefu5ed] I never thought of Mookie as being quite that awful at taking walks, but LWFS is technically right. Mookie's 1983 OBP of .300 is rounded up from .299546 (198 total times on base divided by 663 PAs less 2 sac bunts). For the answer, I was thinking Kingman, Flynn, and someone else from the Torre era. But I don't think Kingman ever made it to 600 PAs as a Met in the '70s.[/quote:4hefu5ed] He sure did. 1982. Benjamin Grimm Jul 16 2009 08:44 AM I had such high hopes for that 1982 season.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Got to be Kong82. That 600 PA minimum is going to disqualify a lot of Folis and Oquendos.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I'll also go with Santana86 and Tavaras79.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Here's a hint: All three of the above-mentioned sub-.300 OBP seasons were managed, in whole or in part, by the same man.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

I don't think Santana got to PA that year... or ever. (I remember him getting spelled a lot by Hojo and Mitchell.)

I'm in with the Kingman crowd, until I can think of anything better.

Flynn's got to be in there, as well.

God... it just occurred to me-- is the third guy Mookie?

[Guest Edgy DC]

Nah, Mookie was a free-swinger early on, but never went sub-.300.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Yes so I like the Torre Era and the office of Kingman, Taveras and Flynn

[Centerfield]

No idea. Al Weis?

[Guest Swan Swan H]

Agee 68?

[Benjamin Grimm]

All three of the sub-.300 OBP (min. 600 PA) players played for George Bamberger. The lowest number was posted by Hubie Brooks, with a .284 in 1983.

Hubie broke a record set a year earlier, when Dave Kingman had a .285. The third player is George Foster, with .289 in 1983.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Hubie is the hope that beats in the french heart of the Francoeur supporter.

Edited July 16, 2009 by Guest

[Guest Mendoza Line]

="LeiterWagnerFasterStronger":2mrevrr5]God... it just occurred to me-- is the third guy Mookie?[/quote:2mrevrr5] I never thought of Mookie as being quite that awful at taking walks, but LWFS is technically right. Mookie's 1983 OBP of .300 is rounded up from .299546 (198 total times on base divided by 663 PAs less 2 sac bunts). For the answer, I was thinking Kingman, Flynn, and someone else from the Torre era. But I don't think Kingman ever made it to 600 PAs as a Met in the '70s.

smg58 Jul 16 2009 08:38 AM

You know, given some of the names in the Mets' 82-83 lineup, it's actually impressive how categorically awful they were.

Edgy DC Jul 16 2009 08:44 AM

="Mendoza Line":4hefu5ed] ="LeiterWagnerFasterStronger":4hefu5ed]God... it just occurred to me-- is the third guy Mookie?[/quote:4hefu5ed] I never thought of Mookie as being quite that awful at taking walks, but LWFS is technically right. Mookie's 1983 OBP of .300 is rounded up from .299546 (198 total times on base divided by 663 PAs less 2 sac bunts). For the answer, I was thinking Kingman, Flynn, and someone else from the Torre era. But I don't think Kingman ever made it to 600 PAs as a Met in the '70s.[/quote:4hefu5ed] He sure did. 1982. Benjamin Grimm Jul 16 2009 08:44 AM I had such high hopes for that 1982 season.

[smg58]

You know, given some of the names in the Mets' 82-83 lineup, it's actually impressive how categorically awful they were.

[Guest Edgy DC]

="Mendoza Line":4hefu5ed] ="LeiterWagnerFasterStronger":4hefu5ed]God... it just occurred to me-- is the third guy Mookie?[/quote:4hefu5ed] I never thought of Mookie as being quite that awful at taking walks, but LWFS is technically right. Mookie's 1983 OBP of .300 is rounded up from .299546 (198 total times on base divided by 663 PAs less 2 sac bunts). For the answer, I was thinking Kingman, Flynn, and someone else from the Torre era. But I don't think Kingman ever made it to 600 PAs as a Met in the '70s.[/quote:4hefu5ed] He sure did. 1982. Benjamin Grimm Jul 16 2009 08:44 AM I had such high hopes for that 1982 season.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I had such high hopes for that 1982 season.