Joining the Jerkface Society

[Guest Edgy DC]

I'm Edgy, and I spoke out in favor of finding a quick replacement for emergency shortstop Ramon Martinez. What's more, I lamely joined a chorus so advocating. I wanted him replaced with any available spare part --- time more of the essence than particulars of ability --- only to find him showing up tonight and playing like a well-oiled jet ski.

Maybe Ron Darling was right. Maybe a lot was asked of him, hopping on a plane, flying cross country, arriving 15 minutes before game time and inserted into the lineup. Maybe he screwed up and got down on himself for a few days. Maybe he's only now getting his head and his game together. After all, he only got into nine minor league games this season before being called up.

Then again, maybe it's a lucky day, and tomorrow he'll seem woefully overmatched again. Tomorrow I'll be right.

But today I was dead wrong. Today, I'm a jerkface.

[metirish]

Ramon was a huge part of this game.....good for him.

[Guest OlerudOwned]

I'm OlerudOwned, and earlier today I said that Omir Santos sucks.

My father was talking about how he liked the dude, how he wasn't great by any stretch but seemed to have a knack for clutch hits. The TV had posted his line at the same moment, his average barely below his on-base, and both figures well below .300. I chuckled it off. "Feh, he kind of sucks."

Hey, I mean. He's a fastball hitter who had the presence of mind to guess fastball, and he got all of it. He still has no track record behind him, and he's still OPSing something rank. But today, Omir Santos won us a goddamned baseball game. Today, I am a jerkface.

[Guest Swan Swan H]

Oh Ramon I am heartily sorry for having offended thee, and I detest all my yapping, because I dread the loss of putouts and the pains of errors; but most of all because they offend you, my shortstop, who art all-good and deserving of all my love. I firmly resolve, with the help of thy performance last night, to confess my sins, to do penance, and to amend my life. Fuckin' A.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I'm also jumping off the "get rid of Ramon Martinez" bandwagon.

And I certainly hope they don't send Santos down to Buffalo to make room for Brian Schneider.

[Guest gerrard00]

="OlerudOwned"]I'm OlerudOwned, and earlier today I said that Omir Santos sucks.

Santos comes to the plate and the gf says, "yes, Santos." I slip into my best professor voice and explain that Santos seems to be scuffling a bit at the plate lately...as he jumps all over that first pitch fastball.

I have a wager with a Bosox fan for the series and I've just this morning posted this on her facebook:

[Guest Triple Dee]

With Schneid due back any day now, I wonder which Mets catcher will get the chop. I think Schneid and Castro can refuse assignment to the minors.

If it was up to me, I'd trade/cut Schneider.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Hey, whoah. This is where we humbly apologize for giving up on a guy.

We do the actual giving up in other threads.

[Guest Swan Swan H]

="Edgy DC"]Hey, whoah. This is where we humbly apologize for giving up on a guy. We do the actual giving up in other threads.

Yeah. This is mea culpa, not mea cutya.

[Guest Kong76]

I humbly apologize for bangin' the this-guy-has-no-business-playing-shortstop-
in-MLB-and-I'll-pay-for-the-car-service-to-Logan drum the other night.

I hope it doesn't need to be banged again.

[ashie62]

="OlerudOwned":bxj0akhg]I'm OlerudOwned, and earlier today I said that Omir Santos sucks. My father was talking about how he liked the dude, how he wasn't great by any stretch but seemed to have a knack for clutch hits. The TV had posted his line at the same moment, his average barely below his on-base, and both figures well below .300. I chuckled it off. "Feh, he kind of sucks." Hey, I mean. He's a fastball hitter who had the presence of mind to guess fastball, and he got all of it. He still has no track record behind him, and he's still OPSing something rank. But today, Omir Santos won us a goddamned baseball game. Today, I am a jerkface.[/quote:bxj0akhg] Don't feel bad I was basically deemed a jerkace for mentioning him as an ROY candidtate which he is. Just for today I am not a jerkface..but its' early

Rockin' Doc May 24 2009 11:21 AM

I apologize to and sincerely thank Ramon Martinez for his fine game last night. I was wrong to say he had no business playing at the major league level. Thankfully, lastnight he proved me wrong. Still, I anxiously await the return of either Jose Reyes or Alex Cora, but I thank Ramon Martinez for his service in this emergency fill in role.

Swan Swan H May 24 2009 11:37 AM

I've put on my blue and orange hairshirt with a big '6' on the back, and I'm ready for the day game.

Edgy DC May 26 2009 05:49 PM

Sorry, I was greasing the skids again. You caught me.

Nymr83 May 26 2009 06:28 PM

]Don't feel bad I was basically deemed a jerkace for mentioning him as an ROY candidtate which he is no, he's not.

Ashie62 May 26 2009 06:29 PM

="Nymr83"] ]Don't feel bad I was basically deemed a jerkace for mentioning him as an ROY candidtate which he is no, he's not. he is a candidate..that is a fact

Nymr83 May 26 2009 06:34 PM

really? what makes it a "fact"? the last time i tried making a statistical argument with you, cleon, you got us sent to the RLF and still have yet to respond with statistics to back your own point up. Edit- if you need your memory jogged, I'm still waiting for you to back up your claim that Kaat was better than Blyleven. here's the link so you can't claim you can't find it [url:opoxbqpz]http://archives.cranepoolforum.net/7100/f8_t7111.shtml[/url:opoxbqpz]

PiggiesTomatoes May 26 2009 07:09 PM

Is there a Golden Shovel award here? Wow. Blyleven was a much better pitcher than Kaat. It's a fact.

Ashie62 May 26 2009 08:36 PM

="Nymr83":u0sdu0o2]really? what makes it a "fact"? the last time i tried making a statistical argument with you, cleon, you got us sent to the RLF and still have yet to respond with statistics to back your own point up. Edit- if you need your memory jogged, I'm still waiting for you to back up your claim that Kaat was better than Blyleven. here's the link so you can't claim you can't find it [url:u0sdu0o2]http://archives.cranepoolforum.net/7100/f8_t7111.shtml[/url:u0sdu0o2][/quote:u0sdu0o2] He doesn't have 130 AB's and has Rookie status..all are elgible and candidates wuss..You are wrong..Do some reading Ashie62 May 26 2009 08:38 PM ="PiggiesTomatoes":lux88ttt]Is there a Golden Shovel award here? Wow. Blyleven was a much better pitcher than Kaat. It's a fact.[/quote:lux88ttt] Lotta gold gloves for Kaat..Both can get in during the steroid drought coming up Nymr83 May 26 2009 08:50 PM another dodge of statistical questioning by cleon. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 27 2009 10:41 AM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jun 09 2009 10:23 PM I'm LWFS, and I've been a Livan bigot. Even at the point during the Hot Stove months, when pitching quantity was of the essence-- and during a time when I actually pumped my fist when hearing of Garcia's signing-- I rolled my eyes when Livan was brought on board. Even as Redding was taking it on the furry chin and the Chief was getting tomahawked and Niese was getting his socks knocked off... I rolled my eyes. Even when we agreed that innings were of the essence, I rolled my eyes, and put imaginary guns in my mouth. For the first two months of the season, I've mentally chalked up losses next to his name on series previews. When I've seen Livan's name pencilled in for a start-- I have sighed, often enough and loudly enough that my family and co-workers wonder "what's wrong." When I've seen his name pencilled in for a start I'm attending-- I've seen three in person already this year-- I've felt preemptively dyspeptic, as if I were the one eating innings while giving up one-and-a-half runners per. Not only have I laughed along at hacky fat-pitcher jokes-- including many premised on "innings-eating" twists-- I've made my share and then some. I've referred to him among friends on multiple occasions as "Brown Grimace" and "Extra-Meat Cuban." Just yesterday, I referred to him in these precincts as "Senor Frisbee" and "the cold I just can't shake." But he's been good. He's been demonstrably good. The Mets are 6-3 in Livan starts, and, one could reasonably argue they should be at least 7-2. He's been our best pitcher whose name doesn't rhyme with "Blohan Mantana" for two months now, and by a pretty significant margin. Despite being blown up in his only two non-quality starts, he's maintained a 4.28 ERA, and-- since his FIP's just a touch above that, and he's working a BABIP that's just about in-line with his career average-- he looks like he could do this indefinitely. Just yesterday, I watched him dance out of trouble and whip cartoony 60-mph curveballs through the drizzle and around enemy bats. I saw him throw a complete game-- I hadn't seen that since the old place. It was fun. Then again, maybe he's having a good stretch. Maybe he's not last year's Jamie Moyer, but this year's Jamie Moyer in waiting. Maybe his engine-- never terribly efficient to begin with-- is 30 miles away from conking out, in a midseason desert of injuries and fading playoff hopes. For the time being, however, I've got egg on my face (and, for the first time in a while, I won't feel tempted to make a joke about an overweight Cuban man eating it). Hoy, soy un grande, gordo jerkface. Centerfield May 27 2009 10:57 AM Brown Grimace. Fantastic. Elster88 May 27 2009 08:10 PM I'm sorry Ramon. You're not useless as a human being. Edgy DC May 27 2009 08:12 PM Ramon is actually on the interstate now. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr, I'm real proud of you. Swan Swan H May 27 2009 08:33 PM Thank goodness Joe McEwing never turned good and Edgy didn't make me do this for him back in 2004. Fman99 May 27 2009 08:42 PM Hi, my name is Fman99 and I am a jerkface. "Hi, Fman!" I am guilty of railing, repeatedly and stoidly, against the unbalanced schedule and the 19 games apiece against the division foes. But the old schedule wouldn't get us 19 games against this woeful bunch of has-beens and never-was'es that wear the uniform of the Washington Nationals. It's got me just giddy, especially with me having tickets to next Sunday's Mets/Nats tilt in D.C. Ashie62 May 27 2009 08:45 PM Hi I am Ashie62 and I am a jerkface, I just am Fman99 Jun 09 2009 07:54 PM bmfc1 and I, admitted Jerkfaces for thinking Pedro Feliciano was spent and needed to be purged along with Heilman, Showey, Duaner, et al. bmfc1 Jun 09 2009 07:59 PM Hi, my name is bmfc1, and I am a jerkface.

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

I apologize to and sincerely thank Ramon Martinez for his fine game last night. I was wrong to say he had no business playing at the major league level. Thankfully, lastnight he proved me wrong.

Still, I anxiously await the return of either Jose Reyes or Alex Cora, but I thank Ramon Martinez for his service in this emergency fill in role.

[Guest Swan Swan H]

I've put on my blue and orange hairshirt with a big '6' on the back, and I'm ready for the day game.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Sorry, I was greasing the skids again. You caught me.

[nymr83]

]Don't feel bad I was basically deemed a jerkace for mentioning him as an ROY candidtate which he is

no, he's not.

[ashie62]

="Nymr83"] ]Don't feel bad I was basically deemed a jerkace for mentioning him as an ROY candidtate which he is no, he's not.

he is a candidate..that is a fact

[nymr83]

really? what makes it a "fact"?
the last time i tried making a statistical argument with you, cleon, you got us sent to the RLF and still have yet to respond with statistics to back your own point up.
Edit- if you need your memory jogged, I'm still waiting for you to back up your claim that Kaat was better than Blyleven.
here's the link so you can't claim you can't find it [url:opoxbqpz]http://archives.cranepoolforum.net/7100/f8_t7111.shtml[/url:opoxbqpz]

[Piggiestomatoes]

Is there a Golden Shovel award here? Wow.

Blyleven was a much better pitcher than Kaat. It's a fact.

[ashie62]

="Nymr83":u0sdu0o2]really? what makes it a "fact"? the last time i tried making a statistical argument with you, cleon, you got us sent to the RLF and still have yet to respond with statistics to back your own point up. Edit- if you need your memory jogged, I'm still waiting for you to back up your claim that Kaat was better than Blyleven. here's the link so you can't claim you can't find it [url:u0sdu0o2]http://archives.cranepoolforum.net/7100/f8_t7111.shtml[/url:u0sdu0o2][/quote:u0sdu0o2] He doesn't have 130 AB's and has Rookie status..all are elgible and candidates wuss..You are wrong..Do some reading

Ashie62 May 26 2009 08:38 PM

="PiggiesTomatoes":lux88ttt]Is there a Golden Shovel award here? Wow. Blyleven was a much better pitcher than Kaat. It's a fact.[/quote:lux88ttt] Lotta gold gloves for Kaat..Both can get in during the steroid drought coming up Nymr83 May 26 2009 08:50 PM another dodge of statistical questioning by cleon. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 27 2009 10:41 AM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jun 09 2009 10:23 PM I'm LWFS, and I've been a Livan bigot. Even at the point during the Hot Stove months, when pitching quantity was of the essence-- and during a time when I actually pumped my fist when hearing of Garcia's signing-- I rolled my eyes when Livan was brought on board. Even as Redding was taking it on the furry chin and the Chief was getting tomahawked and Niese was getting his socks knocked off... I rolled my eyes. Even when we agreed that innings were of the essence, I rolled my eyes, and put imaginary guns in my mouth. For the first two months of the season, I've mentally chalked up losses next to his name on series previews. When I've seen Livan's name pencilled in for a start-- I have sighed, often enough and loudly enough that my family and co-workers wonder "what's wrong." When I've seen his name pencilled in for a start I'm attending-- I've seen three in person already this year-- I've felt preemptively dyspeptic, as if I were the one eating innings while giving up one-and-a-half runners per. Not only have I laughed along at hacky fat-pitcher jokes-- including many premised on "innings-eating" twists-- I've made my share and then some. I've referred to him among friends on multiple occasions as "Brown Grimace" and "Extra-Meat Cuban." Just yesterday, I referred to him in these precincts as "Senor Frisbee" and "the cold I just can't shake." But he's been good. He's been demonstrably good. The Mets are 6-3 in Livan starts, and, one could reasonably argue they should be at least 7-2. He's been our best pitcher whose name doesn't rhyme with "Blohan Mantana" for two months now, and by a pretty significant margin. Despite being blown up in his only two non-quality starts, he's maintained a 4.28 ERA, and-- since his FIP's just a touch above that, and he's working a BABIP that's just about in-line with his career average-- he looks like he could do this indefinitely. Just yesterday, I watched him dance out of trouble and whip cartoony 60-mph curveballs through the drizzle and around enemy bats. I saw him throw a complete game-- I hadn't seen that since the old place. It was fun. Then again, maybe he's having a good stretch. Maybe he's not last year's Jamie Moyer, but this year's Jamie Moyer in waiting. Maybe his engine-- never terribly efficient to begin with-- is 30 miles away from conking out, in a midseason desert of injuries and fading playoff hopes. For the time being, however, I've got egg on my face (and, for the first time in a while, I won't feel tempted to make a joke about an overweight Cuban man eating it). Hoy, soy un grande, gordo jerkface. Centerfield May 27 2009 10:57 AM Brown Grimace. Fantastic. Elster88 May 27 2009 08:10 PM I'm sorry Ramon. You're not useless as a human being. Edgy DC May 27 2009 08:12 PM Ramon is actually on the interstate now. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr, I'm real proud of you. Swan Swan H May 27 2009 08:33 PM Thank goodness Joe McEwing never turned good and Edgy didn't make me do this for him back in 2004. Fman99 May 27 2009 08:42 PM Hi, my name is Fman99 and I am a jerkface. "Hi, Fman!" I am guilty of railing, repeatedly and stoidly, against the unbalanced schedule and the 19 games apiece against the division foes. But the old schedule wouldn't get us 19 games against this woeful bunch of has-beens and never-was'es that wear the uniform of the Washington Nationals. It's got me just giddy, especially with me having tickets to next Sunday's Mets/Nats tilt in D.C. Ashie62 May 27 2009 08:45 PM Hi I am Ashie62 and I am a jerkface, I just am Fman99 Jun 09 2009 07:54 PM bmfc1 and I, admitted Jerkfaces for thinking Pedro Feliciano was spent and needed to be purged along with Heilman, Showey, Duaner, et al. bmfc1 Jun 09 2009 07:59 PM Hi, my name is bmfc1, and I am a jerkface.

[ashie62]

="PiggiesTomatoes":lux88ttt]Is there a Golden Shovel award here? Wow. Blyleven was a much better pitcher than Kaat. It's a fact.[/quote:lux88ttt] Lotta gold gloves for Kaat..Both can get in during the steroid drought coming up

Nymr83 May 26 2009 08:50 PM

another dodge of statistical questioning by cleon.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 27 2009 10:41 AM Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jun 09 2009 10:23 PM

I'm LWFS, and I've been a Livan bigot. Even at the point during the Hot Stove months, when pitching quantity was of the essence-- and during a time when I actually pumped my fist when hearing of Garcia's signing-- I rolled my eyes when Livan was brought on board. Even as Redding was taking it on the furry chin and the Chief was getting tomahawked and Niese was getting his socks knocked off... I rolled my eyes. Even when we agreed that innings were of the essence, I rolled my eyes, and put imaginary guns in my mouth. For the first two months of the season, I've mentally chalked up losses next to his name on series previews. When I've seen Livan's name pencilled in for a start-- I have sighed, often enough and loudly enough that my family and co-workers wonder "what's wrong." When I've seen his name pencilled in for a start I'm attending-- I've seen three in person already this year-- I've felt preemptively dyspeptic, as if I were the one eating innings while giving up one-and-a-half runners per. Not only have I laughed along at hacky fat-pitcher jokes-- including many premised on "innings-eating" twists-- I've made my share and then some. I've referred to him among friends on multiple occasions as "Brown Grimace" and "Extra-Meat Cuban." Just yesterday, I referred to him in these precincts as "Senor Frisbee" and "the cold I just can't shake." But he's been good. He's been demonstrably good. The Mets are 6-3 in Livan starts, and, one could reasonably argue they should be at least 7-2. He's been our best pitcher whose name doesn't rhyme with "Blohan Mantana" for two months now, and by a pretty significant margin. Despite being blown up in his only two non-quality starts, he's maintained a 4.28 ERA, and-- since his FIP's just a touch above that, and he's working a BABIP that's just about in-line with his career average-- he looks like he could do this indefinitely. Just yesterday, I watched him dance out of trouble and whip cartoony 60-mph curveballs through the drizzle and around enemy bats. I saw him throw a complete game-- I hadn't seen that since the old place. It was fun. Then again, maybe he's having a good stretch. Maybe he's not last year's Jamie Moyer, but this year's Jamie Moyer in waiting. Maybe his engine-- never terribly efficient to begin with-- is 30 miles away from conking out, in a midseason desert of injuries and fading playoff hopes. For the time being, however, I've got egg on my face (and, for the first time in a while, I won't feel tempted to make a joke about an overweight Cuban man eating it). Hoy, soy un grande, gordo jerkface.

Centerfield May 27 2009 10:57 AM

Brown Grimace. Fantastic.

Elster88 May 27 2009 08:10 PM

I'm sorry Ramon. You're not useless as a human being.

Edgy DC May 27 2009 08:12 PM

Ramon is actually on the interstate now. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr, I'm real proud of you.

Swan Swan H May 27 2009 08:33 PM

Thank goodness Joe McEwing never turned good and Edgy didn't make me do this for him back in 2004.

Fman99 May 27 2009 08:42 PM

Hi, my name is Fman99 and I am a jerkface. "Hi, Fman!" I am guilty of railing, repeatedly and stoidly, against the unbalanced schedule and the 19 games apiece against the division foes. But the old schedule wouldn't get us 19 games against this woeful bunch of has-beens and never-was'es that wear the uniform of the Washington Nationals. It's got me just giddy, especially with me having tickets to next Sunday's Mets/Nats tilt in D.C.

Ashie62 May 27 2009 08:45 PM

Hi I am Ashie62 and I am a jerkface, I just am

Fman99 Jun 09 2009 07:54 PM

bmfc1 and I, admitted Jerkfaces for thinking Pedro Feliciano was spent and needed to be purged along with Heilman, Showey, Duaner, et al.

bmfc1 Jun 09 2009 07:59 PM

Hi, my name is bmfc1, and I am a jerkface.

[nymr83]

another dodge of statistical questioning by cleon.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

I'm LWFS, and I've been a Livan bigot.

Even at the point during the Hot Stove months, when pitching quantity was of the essence-- and during a time when I actually pumped my fist when hearing of Garcia's signing-- I rolled my eyes when Livan was brought on board. Even as Redding was taking it on the furry chin and the Chief was getting tomahawked and Niese was getting his socks knocked off... I rolled my eyes. Even when we agreed that innings were of the essence, I rolled my eyes, and put imaginary guns in my mouth.

For the first two months of the season, I've mentally chalked up losses next to his name on series previews. When I've seen Livan's name pencilled in for a start-- I have sighed, often enough and loudly enough that my family and co-workers wonder "what's wrong." When I've seen his name pencilled in for a start I'm attending-- I've seen three in person already this year-- I've felt preemptively dyspeptic, as if I were the one eating innings while giving up one-and-a-half runners per.

Not only have I laughed along at hacky fat-pitcher jokes-- including many premised on "innings-eating" twists-- I've made my share and then some. I've referred to him among friends on multiple occasions as "Brown Grimace" and "Extra-Meat Cuban." Just yesterday, I referred to him in these precincts as "Senor Frisbee" and "the cold I just can't shake."

But he's been good. He's been demonstrably good. The Mets are 6-3 in Livan starts, and, one could reasonably argue they should be at least 7-2. He's been our best pitcher whose name doesn't rhyme with "Blohan Mantana" for two months now, and by a pretty significant margin. Despite being blown up in his only two non-quality starts, he's maintained a 4.28 ERA, and-- since his FIP's just a touch above that, and he's working a BABIP that's just about in-line with his career average-- he looks like he could do this indefinitely. Just yesterday, I watched him dance out of trouble and whip cartoony 60-mph curveballs through the drizzle and around enemy bats. I saw him throw a complete game-- I hadn't seen that since the old place. It was fun.

Then again, maybe he's having a good stretch. Maybe he's not last year's Jamie Moyer, but this year's Jamie Moyer in waiting. Maybe his engine-- never terribly efficient to begin with-- is 30 miles away from conking out, in a midseason desert of injuries and fading playoff hopes.

For the time being, however, I've got egg on my face (and, for the first time in a while, I won't feel tempted to make a joke about an overweight Cuban man eating it). Hoy, soy un grande, gordo jerkface.

[Centerfield]

Brown Grimace. Fantastic.

[Elster88]

I'm sorry Ramon. You're not useless as a human being.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Ramon is actually on the interstate now.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr, I'm real proud of you.

[Guest Swan Swan H]

Thank goodness Joe McEwing never turned good and Edgy didn't make me do this for him back in 2004.

[Fman99]

Hi, my name is Fman99 and I am a jerkface.

"Hi, Fman!"

I am guilty of railing, repeatedly and stoidly, against the unbalanced schedule and the 19 games apiece against the division foes. But the old schedule wouldn't get us 19 games against this woeful bunch of has-beens and never-was'es that wear the uniform of the Washington Nationals.

It's got me just giddy, especially with me having tickets to next Sunday's Mets/Nats tilt in D.C.

[ashie62]

Hi I am Ashie62 and I am a jerkface, I just am

[Fman99]

bmfc1 and I, admitted Jerkfaces for thinking Pedro Feliciano was spent and needed to be purged along with Heilman, Showey, Duaner, et al.

[bmfc1]

Hi, my name is bmfc1, and I am a jerkface.