duan Old-Timey Member Posted December 24, 2008 Posted December 24, 2008 If you asked me to compare the following for their value over the next 3/4 years (when contracts start running out on either side!) Alex Rodriguez v David Wright. EvenDerek Jeter v Jose Reyes. ReyesMark Texiera v Carlos Beltran EvenCC Sabathia v Johan Santana EvenThe 4 yankees have the highest contracts in baseball. We're doing ok in the big ticket areas, we just have to be sure our spoorting cast is better.
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted December 24, 2008 Posted December 24, 2008 Would you trade our four for their four, right now, for 2009? I wouldn't.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted December 24, 2008 Posted December 24, 2008 Not a chance I would do that.
nymr83 Old-Timey Member Posted December 24, 2008 Posted December 24, 2008 ]we just have to be sure our spoorting cast is better.we need to "be sure" our roster is better than Philadelphia's, Atlanta's, etc. not the New York Yankees' roster.
Guest metsguyinmichigan Guests Posted December 24, 2008 Posted December 24, 2008 I would even say I'd take Santana over Sabbathia rather than call that one even!That would give us two -- and without the Jeter stench!
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted December 24, 2008 Posted December 24, 2008 So, Nady's the one with a guaranteed job?
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted December 24, 2008 Posted December 24, 2008 Yanx lineup:- 1B: Highest paid 1st baseman, both currently and in the history of the game- 2B: 2nd highest paid active player (behind Utley) at the position- SS: Highest paid at the position in the history of the game- 3B: highest paid player [u:1kg25lk9]of any kind[/u:1kg25lk9] in the history of the game- C: Highest paid at the position in the history of the game- SP: Highest paid starter in the history of the game- RP: Highest paid reliever in the history of the game- The 4 largest contracts (total value) in the history of the game- Their 2008 Lux Tax bill was the same size as the Marlins payroll (which says something about both them and the Marlins).
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted December 24, 2008 Posted December 24, 2008 The Yankees really have to shore things up at second.
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted December 24, 2008 Posted December 24, 2008 ="seawolf17":3nh2omhf]Would you trade our four for their four, right now, for 2009? I wouldn't.[/quote:3nh2omhf]I wouldn't either. Maybe Texeira over Beltran...maybe. Beltran's defense at an impact position may still make Carlos more valuable, even if he doesn't have quite the same offensive production as Texeira. The other 3? Forget it. (Yes, even Rodriguez, if only for the baggage he brings).Ashie62 Dec 25 2008 10:02 AMTeixeira sponsorship on Baseball_Reference Somebody got to this quicky..A Yanqui smackdown on www.baseball-reference.com ...seawolf17 Dec 25 2008 12:08 PM="Edgy DC":25bor5gt]The Yankees really have to shore things up at second.[/quote:25bor5gt]Someone send Hank Steinbrenner a 2005 baseball card of Luis Castillo, then have Omar call him and offer him Castillo for Nady and Cano.Frayed Knot Dec 26 2008 10:54 AMAnd the last of the teams getting screwed by the Yanx signing Teixeira winds up being Milwaukee, plus, to a lesser extent, Toronto.With Sabathia, Burnett, & Teixeira all being Type-A FAs, obviously only one team can get the Yanx 1st round pick (mid-20s somewhere) in next June's draft. That team turns out to be the Angels based on Teixeira being the top-rated of all those FAs. Sabathia ranks next so the Brews get the Yanx 2nd rounder, while Toronto gets their 3rd round choice (probably up above pick #100) as compensation for losing Burnett.All three teams also get supplemental picks (in the same order I believe) after the end of the first round.So those Brew fans who consoled themselves by figuring they'd get a top-25 pick and a top-40 out of losing big CC wind up with one in the mid-60s or so to go along with the top-40.Oh well.Edgy DC Dec 26 2008 11:07 AMIt would be maybe more coolio if maybe the second team who lost a type A to Team Y could get a pick right after the first team.Team Y, for their part, would sacrifice their first round pick for 2009 after signing the first, their first-round pick for 20010 after signing the second, etc. If Team Y is the Yankees, they'd be out first rounders up to 2051 by now, which would be such an abstraction to them, they'd care little, but they care little now anyhow, and at least the team losing their guy to the Yankees would get a prompt and fair (or more close to the intended fairness) compensation.The first year or two under this policy would lead to a bloated round one, but that would even out in subsequent years.metirish Dec 26 2008 11:24 AMCashman is all about the farm , especially since he gained full control from the Tampa Rowdies a few years back.
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted December 25, 2008 Posted December 25, 2008 Somebody got to this quicky..A Yanqui smackdown on www.baseball-reference.com ...
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted December 25, 2008 Posted December 25, 2008 ="Edgy DC":25bor5gt]The Yankees really have to shore things up at second.[/quote:25bor5gt]Someone send Hank Steinbrenner a 2005 baseball card of Luis Castillo, then have Omar call him and offer him Castillo for Nady and Cano.Frayed Knot Dec 26 2008 10:54 AMAnd the last of the teams getting screwed by the Yanx signing Teixeira winds up being Milwaukee, plus, to a lesser extent, Toronto.With Sabathia, Burnett, & Teixeira all being Type-A FAs, obviously only one team can get the Yanx 1st round pick (mid-20s somewhere) in next June's draft. That team turns out to be the Angels based on Teixeira being the top-rated of all those FAs. Sabathia ranks next so the Brews get the Yanx 2nd rounder, while Toronto gets their 3rd round choice (probably up above pick #100) as compensation for losing Burnett.All three teams also get supplemental picks (in the same order I believe) after the end of the first round.So those Brew fans who consoled themselves by figuring they'd get a top-25 pick and a top-40 out of losing big CC wind up with one in the mid-60s or so to go along with the top-40.Oh well.Edgy DC Dec 26 2008 11:07 AMIt would be maybe more coolio if maybe the second team who lost a type A to Team Y could get a pick right after the first team.Team Y, for their part, would sacrifice their first round pick for 2009 after signing the first, their first-round pick for 20010 after signing the second, etc. If Team Y is the Yankees, they'd be out first rounders up to 2051 by now, which would be such an abstraction to them, they'd care little, but they care little now anyhow, and at least the team losing their guy to the Yankees would get a prompt and fair (or more close to the intended fairness) compensation.The first year or two under this policy would lead to a bloated round one, but that would even out in subsequent years.metirish Dec 26 2008 11:24 AMCashman is all about the farm , especially since he gained full control from the Tampa Rowdies a few years back.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted December 26, 2008 Posted December 26, 2008 And the last of the teams getting screwed by the Yanx signing Teixeira winds up being Milwaukee, plus, to a lesser extent, Toronto.With Sabathia, Burnett, & Teixeira all being Type-A FAs, obviously only one team can get the Yanx 1st round pick (mid-20s somewhere) in next June's draft. That team turns out to be the Angels based on Teixeira being the top-rated of all those FAs. Sabathia ranks next so the Brews get the Yanx 2nd rounder, while Toronto gets their 3rd round choice (probably up above pick #100) as compensation for losing Burnett.All three teams also get supplemental picks (in the same order I believe) after the end of the first round.So those Brew fans who consoled themselves by figuring they'd get a top-25 pick and a top-40 out of losing big CC wind up with one in the mid-60s or so to go along with the top-40.Oh well.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted December 26, 2008 Posted December 26, 2008 It would be maybe more coolio if maybe the second team who lost a type A to Team Y could get a pick right after the first team.Team Y, for their part, would sacrifice their first round pick for 2009 after signing the first, their first-round pick for 20010 after signing the second, etc. If Team Y is the Yankees, they'd be out first rounders up to 2051 by now, which would be such an abstraction to them, they'd care little, but they care little now anyhow, and at least the team losing their guy to the Yankees would get a prompt and fair (or more close to the intended fairness) compensation.The first year or two under this policy would lead to a bloated round one, but that would even out in subsequent years.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted December 26, 2008 Posted December 26, 2008 Cashman is all about the farm , especially since he gained full control from the Tampa Rowdies a few years back.
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