Met Reference Hell

[Guest AG/DC]

References in Mets culture that have been over-used to the point of meaninglessness.

• "Street Spanish"
  
  
• "skill sets"
  


• "ten minutes"
  


• "clubhouse lawyer"
  


• "we battled"
  

Yeah, there are other such phrases populating this Hell, but these are the ones poking me with pitchforks at this time. If one uses these phrases, please do so in aan ironic "yeah, I know it's meaningless, but watch out for my parodic meta-reference here" sense.

[soupcan]

"you know what I'm sayin?"

"there's no question about it."

[metirish]

"meaningful games"

[Fman99]

"Can of corn"

"Got him!"

(Fran Healy is his own subset of overused references)

[Centerfield]

Los Mets

[Guest AG/DC]

I'm not talking about over-used references by announcers. I'm talking about overused references by internet Met watchers.

If you're really serious about ripping into Al Leiter in 2008 because he supposedly engineered the firing of Bobby Valentine and the trading of Scott Kazmir, and your suppport of that theory is his rep as a "clubhouse lawyer," I need to cover my eyes to stop them rolling out of my head.

[Benjamin Grimm]

How about "he can't be any worse than what we have now"?

[Guest AG/DC]

Well, that does make me explode into a giant green troll, but at least that's not a dated reference to some historical column fodder.

[Guest holychicken]

="Benjamin Grimm":1bfbrc8m]How about "he can't be any worse than what we have now"?[/quote:1bfbrc8m] Unfair. Used once and this is over-used!

G-Fafif Oct 23 2008 09:31 AM

I wouldn't say I'm devastated that you put together this list. But I am disappointed.

Benjamin Grimm Oct 23 2008 09:31 AM

I think it was used much more than once. It was probably even used more than "punch him in the neck and tell him his sister is a ****"

AG/DC Oct 23 2008 09:36 AM

="G-Fafif":1gjiaysz]I wouldn't say I'm devastated that you put together this list. But I am disappointed.[/quote:1gjiaysz] Yeah, that's a keeper. Fman99 Oct 23 2008 09:46 AM ="Benjamin Grimm":11gqb8vb]I think it was used much more than once. It was probably even used more than "punch him in the neck and tell him his sister is a ****"[/quote:11gqb8vb] BG, you've used that phrase many more times than I have. Just sayin' metirish Oct 23 2008 09:49 AM " It's a dump but it's our dump" sharpie Oct 23 2008 09:51 AM "Rick Peterson could fix him in ten minutes." Centerfield Oct 23 2008 09:54 AM I wanted to mention that I don't think "Street Spanish" is really overused...not anymore anyway. If done well, I think that can still be funny. AG/DC Oct 23 2008 09:58 AM I think I make it clear that things can be well-used. But Bernazard is still inexplicably demonized and that's all folks have on him. On the other hand, if there's anything to it, how many more games might the Mets have won with Delgado at first in 2005? Benjamin Grimm Oct 30 2008 07:57 AM He's measuring the drapes! metirish Oct 30 2008 08:01 AM Rollins is sticking it to the Mets Gwreck Oct 30 2008 08:03 AM ="AG/DC":2yn5xsty]On the other hand, if there's anything to it, how many more games might the Mets have won with Delgado at first in 2005?[/quote:2yn5xsty] I know it's not a truly valid comparison, but Delgado had 31 win shares in 2005, while Mientkiewicz + Jacobs had 8. G-Fafif Oct 30 2008 08:28 AM New York's gonna love Bill Pecota. Still. Edgy DC Oct 30 2008 08:28 AM It's as valid as any. I'll guess there's maybe four more combined among Woodward, Anderson, Offerman, Cairo, and Daubach. That's about six more wins. It gets them up to 89. If one of those wins comes at the expense of the division-champ 90-win Braves, we're tied! Crikey! Gwreck Oct 30 2008 09:18 AM ="Edgy DC":29dbtj1c]It's as valid as any. I'll guess there's maybe four more combined among Woodward, Anderson, Offerman, Cairo, and Daubach. That's about six more wins. It gets them up to 89. If one of those wins comes at the expense of the division-champ 90-win Braves, we're tied! Crikey![/quote:29dbtj1c] Cairo 5, Woodward 4, Anderson 4, Offerman 1, Daubach 0. Of course most of those win shares were done at other positions. I think 4 is a valid estimation for the first-base contributions of those players. Frayed Knot Nov 05 2008 08:34 AM "Omar is obsessed with getting .... " Edgy DC Dec 02 2008 08:32 AM "We really liked the schools.' Let it go. HahnSolo Dec 02 2008 09:18 AM I'm fond of : "Sources familiar with the Mets' thinking..." G-Fafif Dec 02 2008 10:17 AM The Willie Randolph Edition: --Music and facial hair --The funk --"When we sip champagne..." --My guys --Three in the morning John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 02 2008 10:23 AM How dare you roll out the Willie edition without: "I've been around winners all my life..." Edgy DC Dec 02 2008 10:26 AM Just so we're clear: by consigning these Met references to hell, you don't get to use them as a writer any more without looking hopelessly outr�. John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 02 2008 10:34 AM Yeah, I kinda like "Willie the Winner." I'm not ready to cashier it yet. Edgy DC Dec 02 2008 11:24 AM 'Zactly. KC has a way of making ol' nuggets retain a certain freshness. He also has a good sense of what's "so 2003" and needs to stay there. G-Fafif Dec 02 2008 12:51 PM ="Edgy DC":hthd8qtk]'Zactly. KC has a way of making ol' nuggets retain a certain freshness. He also has a good sense of what's "so 2003" and needs to stay there.[/quote:hthd8qtk] The funk hasn't really come up in conversation lately, but the champagne line stays in circulation until the Mets complete a September intact. And three in the morning I'm keeping around in case of boneheaded management emergency. But yes, I can't believe I forgot "been a winner all my life."

[G-Fafif]

I wouldn't say I'm devastated that you put together this list. But I am disappointed.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I think it was used much more than once.

It was probably even used more than "punch him in the neck and tell him his sister is a ****"

[Guest AG/DC]

="G-Fafif":1gjiaysz]I wouldn't say I'm devastated that you put together this list. But I am disappointed.[/quote:1gjiaysz] Yeah, that's a keeper.

Fman99 Oct 23 2008 09:46 AM

="Benjamin Grimm":11gqb8vb]I think it was used much more than once. It was probably even used more than "punch him in the neck and tell him his sister is a ****"[/quote:11gqb8vb] BG, you've used that phrase many more times than I have. Just sayin' metirish Oct 23 2008 09:49 AM " It's a dump but it's our dump" sharpie Oct 23 2008 09:51 AM "Rick Peterson could fix him in ten minutes." Centerfield Oct 23 2008 09:54 AM I wanted to mention that I don't think "Street Spanish" is really overused...not anymore anyway. If done well, I think that can still be funny. AG/DC Oct 23 2008 09:58 AM I think I make it clear that things can be well-used. But Bernazard is still inexplicably demonized and that's all folks have on him. On the other hand, if there's anything to it, how many more games might the Mets have won with Delgado at first in 2005? Benjamin Grimm Oct 30 2008 07:57 AM He's measuring the drapes! metirish Oct 30 2008 08:01 AM Rollins is sticking it to the Mets Gwreck Oct 30 2008 08:03 AM ="AG/DC":2yn5xsty]On the other hand, if there's anything to it, how many more games might the Mets have won with Delgado at first in 2005?[/quote:2yn5xsty] I know it's not a truly valid comparison, but Delgado had 31 win shares in 2005, while Mientkiewicz + Jacobs had 8. G-Fafif Oct 30 2008 08:28 AM New York's gonna love Bill Pecota. Still. Edgy DC Oct 30 2008 08:28 AM It's as valid as any. I'll guess there's maybe four more combined among Woodward, Anderson, Offerman, Cairo, and Daubach. That's about six more wins. It gets them up to 89. If one of those wins comes at the expense of the division-champ 90-win Braves, we're tied! Crikey! Gwreck Oct 30 2008 09:18 AM ="Edgy DC":29dbtj1c]It's as valid as any. I'll guess there's maybe four more combined among Woodward, Anderson, Offerman, Cairo, and Daubach. That's about six more wins. It gets them up to 89. If one of those wins comes at the expense of the division-champ 90-win Braves, we're tied! Crikey![/quote:29dbtj1c] Cairo 5, Woodward 4, Anderson 4, Offerman 1, Daubach 0. Of course most of those win shares were done at other positions. I think 4 is a valid estimation for the first-base contributions of those players. Frayed Knot Nov 05 2008 08:34 AM "Omar is obsessed with getting .... " Edgy DC Dec 02 2008 08:32 AM "We really liked the schools.' Let it go. HahnSolo Dec 02 2008 09:18 AM I'm fond of : "Sources familiar with the Mets' thinking..." G-Fafif Dec 02 2008 10:17 AM The Willie Randolph Edition: --Music and facial hair --The funk --"When we sip champagne..." --My guys --Three in the morning John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 02 2008 10:23 AM How dare you roll out the Willie edition without: "I've been around winners all my life..." Edgy DC Dec 02 2008 10:26 AM Just so we're clear: by consigning these Met references to hell, you don't get to use them as a writer any more without looking hopelessly outr�. John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 02 2008 10:34 AM Yeah, I kinda like "Willie the Winner." I'm not ready to cashier it yet. Edgy DC Dec 02 2008 11:24 AM 'Zactly. KC has a way of making ol' nuggets retain a certain freshness. He also has a good sense of what's "so 2003" and needs to stay there. G-Fafif Dec 02 2008 12:51 PM ="Edgy DC":hthd8qtk]'Zactly. KC has a way of making ol' nuggets retain a certain freshness. He also has a good sense of what's "so 2003" and needs to stay there.[/quote:hthd8qtk] The funk hasn't really come up in conversation lately, but the champagne line stays in circulation until the Mets complete a September intact. And three in the morning I'm keeping around in case of boneheaded management emergency. But yes, I can't believe I forgot "been a winner all my life."

[Fman99]

="Benjamin Grimm":11gqb8vb]I think it was used much more than once. It was probably even used more than "punch him in the neck and tell him his sister is a ****"[/quote:11gqb8vb] BG, you've used that phrase many more times than I have. Just sayin'

metirish Oct 23 2008 09:49 AM

" It's a dump but it's our dump"

sharpie Oct 23 2008 09:51 AM

"Rick Peterson could fix him in ten minutes."

Centerfield Oct 23 2008 09:54 AM

I wanted to mention that I don't think "Street Spanish" is really overused...not anymore anyway. If done well, I think that can still be funny.

AG/DC Oct 23 2008 09:58 AM

I think I make it clear that things can be well-used. But Bernazard is still inexplicably demonized and that's all folks have on him. On the other hand, if there's anything to it, how many more games might the Mets have won with Delgado at first in 2005?

Benjamin Grimm Oct 30 2008 07:57 AM

He's measuring the drapes!

metirish Oct 30 2008 08:01 AM

Rollins is sticking it to the Mets

Gwreck Oct 30 2008 08:03 AM

="AG/DC":2yn5xsty]On the other hand, if there's anything to it, how many more games might the Mets have won with Delgado at first in 2005?[/quote:2yn5xsty] I know it's not a truly valid comparison, but Delgado had 31 win shares in 2005, while Mientkiewicz + Jacobs had 8. G-Fafif Oct 30 2008 08:28 AM New York's gonna love Bill Pecota. Still. Edgy DC Oct 30 2008 08:28 AM It's as valid as any. I'll guess there's maybe four more combined among Woodward, Anderson, Offerman, Cairo, and Daubach. That's about six more wins. It gets them up to 89. If one of those wins comes at the expense of the division-champ 90-win Braves, we're tied! Crikey! Gwreck Oct 30 2008 09:18 AM ="Edgy DC":29dbtj1c]It's as valid as any. I'll guess there's maybe four more combined among Woodward, Anderson, Offerman, Cairo, and Daubach. That's about six more wins. It gets them up to 89. If one of those wins comes at the expense of the division-champ 90-win Braves, we're tied! Crikey![/quote:29dbtj1c] Cairo 5, Woodward 4, Anderson 4, Offerman 1, Daubach 0. Of course most of those win shares were done at other positions. I think 4 is a valid estimation for the first-base contributions of those players. Frayed Knot Nov 05 2008 08:34 AM "Omar is obsessed with getting .... " Edgy DC Dec 02 2008 08:32 AM "We really liked the schools.' Let it go. HahnSolo Dec 02 2008 09:18 AM I'm fond of : "Sources familiar with the Mets' thinking..." G-Fafif Dec 02 2008 10:17 AM The Willie Randolph Edition: --Music and facial hair --The funk --"When we sip champagne..." --My guys --Three in the morning John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 02 2008 10:23 AM How dare you roll out the Willie edition without: "I've been around winners all my life..." Edgy DC Dec 02 2008 10:26 AM Just so we're clear: by consigning these Met references to hell, you don't get to use them as a writer any more without looking hopelessly outr�. John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 02 2008 10:34 AM Yeah, I kinda like "Willie the Winner." I'm not ready to cashier it yet. Edgy DC Dec 02 2008 11:24 AM 'Zactly. KC has a way of making ol' nuggets retain a certain freshness. He also has a good sense of what's "so 2003" and needs to stay there. G-Fafif Dec 02 2008 12:51 PM ="Edgy DC":hthd8qtk]'Zactly. KC has a way of making ol' nuggets retain a certain freshness. He also has a good sense of what's "so 2003" and needs to stay there.[/quote:hthd8qtk] The funk hasn't really come up in conversation lately, but the champagne line stays in circulation until the Mets complete a September intact. And three in the morning I'm keeping around in case of boneheaded management emergency. But yes, I can't believe I forgot "been a winner all my life."

[metirish]

" It's a dump but it's our dump"

[Guest sharpie]

"Rick Peterson could fix him in ten minutes."

[Centerfield]

I wanted to mention that I don't think "Street Spanish" is really overused...not anymore anyway. If done well, I think that can still be funny.

[Guest AG/DC]

I think I make it clear that things can be well-used. But Bernazard is still inexplicably demonized and that's all folks have on him.

On the other hand, if there's anything to it, how many more games might the Mets have won with Delgado at first in 2005?

[Benjamin Grimm]

He's measuring the drapes!

[metirish]

Rollins is sticking it to the Mets

[Gwreck]

="AG/DC":2yn5xsty]On the other hand, if there's anything to it, how many more games might the Mets have won with Delgado at first in 2005?[/quote:2yn5xsty] I know it's not a truly valid comparison, but Delgado had 31 win shares in 2005, while Mientkiewicz + Jacobs had 8.

G-Fafif Oct 30 2008 08:28 AM

New York's gonna love Bill Pecota. Still.

Edgy DC Oct 30 2008 08:28 AM

It's as valid as any. I'll guess there's maybe four more combined among Woodward, Anderson, Offerman, Cairo, and Daubach. That's about six more wins. It gets them up to 89. If one of those wins comes at the expense of the division-champ 90-win Braves, we're tied! Crikey!

Gwreck Oct 30 2008 09:18 AM

="Edgy DC":29dbtj1c]It's as valid as any. I'll guess there's maybe four more combined among Woodward, Anderson, Offerman, Cairo, and Daubach. That's about six more wins. It gets them up to 89. If one of those wins comes at the expense of the division-champ 90-win Braves, we're tied! Crikey![/quote:29dbtj1c] Cairo 5, Woodward 4, Anderson 4, Offerman 1, Daubach 0. Of course most of those win shares were done at other positions. I think 4 is a valid estimation for the first-base contributions of those players. Frayed Knot Nov 05 2008 08:34 AM "Omar is obsessed with getting .... " Edgy DC Dec 02 2008 08:32 AM "We really liked the schools.' Let it go. HahnSolo Dec 02 2008 09:18 AM I'm fond of : "Sources familiar with the Mets' thinking..." G-Fafif Dec 02 2008 10:17 AM The Willie Randolph Edition: --Music and facial hair --The funk --"When we sip champagne..." --My guys --Three in the morning John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 02 2008 10:23 AM How dare you roll out the Willie edition without: "I've been around winners all my life..." Edgy DC Dec 02 2008 10:26 AM Just so we're clear: by consigning these Met references to hell, you don't get to use them as a writer any more without looking hopelessly outr�. John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 02 2008 10:34 AM Yeah, I kinda like "Willie the Winner." I'm not ready to cashier it yet. Edgy DC Dec 02 2008 11:24 AM 'Zactly. KC has a way of making ol' nuggets retain a certain freshness. He also has a good sense of what's "so 2003" and needs to stay there. G-Fafif Dec 02 2008 12:51 PM ="Edgy DC":hthd8qtk]'Zactly. KC has a way of making ol' nuggets retain a certain freshness. He also has a good sense of what's "so 2003" and needs to stay there.[/quote:hthd8qtk] The funk hasn't really come up in conversation lately, but the champagne line stays in circulation until the Mets complete a September intact. And three in the morning I'm keeping around in case of boneheaded management emergency. But yes, I can't believe I forgot "been a winner all my life."

[G-Fafif]

New York's gonna love Bill Pecota.

Still.

[Guest Edgy DC]

It's as valid as any. I'll guess there's maybe four more combined among Woodward, Anderson, Offerman, Cairo, and Daubach.

That's about six more wins. It gets them up to 89. If one of those wins comes at the expense of the division-champ 90-win Braves, we're tied!

Crikey!

[Gwreck]

="Edgy DC":29dbtj1c]It's as valid as any. I'll guess there's maybe four more combined among Woodward, Anderson, Offerman, Cairo, and Daubach. That's about six more wins. It gets them up to 89. If one of those wins comes at the expense of the division-champ 90-win Braves, we're tied! Crikey![/quote:29dbtj1c] Cairo 5, Woodward 4, Anderson 4, Offerman 1, Daubach 0. Of course most of those win shares were done at other positions. I think 4 is a valid estimation for the first-base contributions of those players.

Frayed Knot Nov 05 2008 08:34 AM

"Omar is obsessed with getting .... "

Edgy DC Dec 02 2008 08:32 AM

"We really liked the schools.' Let it go.

HahnSolo Dec 02 2008 09:18 AM

I'm fond of : "Sources familiar with the Mets' thinking..."

G-Fafif Dec 02 2008 10:17 AM

The Willie Randolph Edition: --Music and facial hair --The funk --"When we sip champagne..." --My guys --Three in the morning

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 02 2008 10:23 AM

How dare you roll out the Willie edition without: "I've been around winners all my life..."

Edgy DC Dec 02 2008 10:26 AM

Just so we're clear: by consigning these Met references to hell, you don't get to use them as a writer any more without looking hopelessly outr�.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Dec 02 2008 10:34 AM

Yeah, I kinda like "Willie the Winner." I'm not ready to cashier it yet.

Edgy DC Dec 02 2008 11:24 AM

'Zactly. KC has a way of making ol' nuggets retain a certain freshness. He also has a good sense of what's "so 2003" and needs to stay there.

G-Fafif Dec 02 2008 12:51 PM

="Edgy DC":hthd8qtk]'Zactly. KC has a way of making ol' nuggets retain a certain freshness. He also has a good sense of what's "so 2003" and needs to stay there.[/quote:hthd8qtk] The funk hasn't really come up in conversation lately, but the champagne line stays in circulation until the Mets complete a September intact. And three in the morning I'm keeping around in case of boneheaded management emergency. But yes, I can't believe I forgot "been a winner all my life."

[Frayed Knot]

"Omar is obsessed with getting .... "

[Guest Edgy DC]

"We really liked the schools.'

Let it go.

[HahnSolo]

I'm fond of :

"Sources familiar with the Mets' thinking..."

[G-Fafif]

The Willie Randolph Edition:

--Music and facial hair
--The funk
--"When we sip champagne..."
--My guys
--Three in the morning

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

How dare you roll out the Willie edition without:

"I've been around winners all my life..."

[Guest Edgy DC]

Just so we're clear: by consigning these Met references to hell, you don't get to use them as a writer any more without looking hopelessly outr�.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Yeah, I kinda like "Willie the Winner." I'm not ready to cashier it yet.