WSo8M: (5) Die Hard v. (12) Heathers

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Lincoln Hawk Conference, Nakatomi Plaza regionals:

(5) Die Hard


(12) Heathers (referred to in the below trailer under its working title "Lethal Attraction"

[metirish]

Die Hard for me , Alan Rickman was great in that movie.

[soupcan]

"Yippie-ki-yay, motherfucker."

[Guest AG/DC]

metirish wrote: Die Hard for me, Alan Rickman was great in that movie.

Alan Rickman is great in almost everything. Weak shit like Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves and Quigley Down Under. Middling shit like An Awfully Big Adventure and Michael Collins and Blow Dry.

One exception is Love, Actually, actually.

[soupcan]

Loved him in 'Galaxy Quest'

[Frayed Knot]

DH was better than most 'Lets blow up a bunch of shit' movies featuring a beyond-the-rules type cop and the evil crooks he battles.

But I got a huge kick out of 'Heathers' even though its setup was far better than the payoff as it got lost there at the end.

What's your damage?

[Fman99]

I'm voting for Heathers too. Christian Slater doing his Jack Nicholson impression works for me and those chicks were all hot. Even Betty Finn and her nerdy ass.

To me this tournament is all about shapely bottoms.

Die Hard was great compared to other films in its genre, but it's just like so many other movies. We get it, hijackers with exotic accents, hostages, explosions, guys getting shot.

[Vic Sage]

Heathers is a fascinating, darkly funny little movie that is to "teen HS coming-of-age comedies" as LORD OF THE FLIES is to THE HARDY BOYS.

But DIE HARD is a huge, iconic movie that created a sub-genre. And it holds up pretty well today, even after repeated viewings.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I don't even remember Heathers. The title doesn't even sound familiar to me. Was it some kind of a chick flick?

Why don't I remember the Eighties? I wasn't drinking or doing drugs. Maybe I was watching too much baseball. I do remember doing that!

[Frayed Knot]

I don't even remember Heathers. The title doesn't even sound familiar to me. Was it some kind of a chick flick?

It was a movie about chicks, but probably has more male viewers than female (or maybe not, what do i know?)

It's a black comedy about HS cliques and outsiders taking action against insiders.
Very dark, lots of good lines ("Dear diary: my teen angst now has a body count") and some funny teenage stereotypes get skewered.

Not a big box office flick.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I don't even remember Heathers. The title doesn't even sound familiar to me. Was it some kind of a chick flick?

You should see it. It was a very dark comedy about some high school students who consider murder as a means to narrow the gap between the "popular" and "unpopular" factions. It played like a dark fantasy of every non-jock. The movie however didn't gain much momentum till it came out on video.

I never thought Slater had to play that role via a Jack Nicholson impersonation; that IMO is one of the flaws keeping Heathers from being a classic you'd wanna watch over and over. But it is pretty good!

Die Hard is great OTOH. I saw that movie for the first time on video with my friends. As soon as it was over, nobody said anything -- we just rewound it and started watching it again.

[Guest AG/DC]

It's also about the oversentimentalizaition of teen angst. The journalistic orgy and over-the-top public grieveing when a popular chickapparently commits suicide leads a truly miserable person to try it and the insanely cruel popular clique rail against the cheek she has to try and think she can become more popular through suicide.

After millions of teen angst movies tried to get us to think like the sensitive unmarried English teacher who tries to make a difference, the whole town becomes so damn sentsitive that teen angst is just a commodity in the popularity wars.

Then Christian Slater went from this to Pump Up the Volume, which was just the kind of film Heathers was skewering.

[Guest themetfairy]

A tough call for me, but I'm going with Heathers.

[Guest holychicken]

These shouldn't have been matched up so early.

[dgwphotography]

Definitely Die Hard

[bmfc1]

Don't forget Alan Rickman in the Harry Potter movies. He was a great villain in Die Hard.

[seawolf17]

I can't decide whether I want Alan Rickman or James Earl Jones to play me in the movie of my life. I really could go either way.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

19-8, Die Hard advances

Edited October 20, 2008 by Guest

[Benjamin Grimm]

No close ones in today's batch, huh?