Pedro's Left Hamstring Thread

[Benjamin Grimm]

Pedro insisted on operating it himself, which complicates things somewhat.

[HahnSolo]

He did n't want to take the bus over there, so there bringing the machine to him.

[metirish]

Dying over here , didn't that hospital hire Pedro's tech?

[Guest AG/DC]

There should be some award for the first hammy injury of the season.

[Benjamin Grimm]

="Marty Noble"]Mets awaiting word on Pedro's status 04/02/2008 12:26 PM ET By Marty Noble / MLB.com MIAMI -- Not until mid-afternoon, at the earliest, will the Mets have a greater sense of the problem they face because of the injury to Pedro Martinez. Even at 11 a.m. ET on Wednesday, the club was uncertain when Martinez's strained left hamstring would be examined by magnetic resonance imaging. And the results of the MRI probably wouldn't become immediately available. That said, the club will know by early afternoon whether it will have an alternative solution for the problem that undermined its championship aspirations before the second game of the season was complete. By 1 p.m., the Mets will know whether Brian Stokes has been claimed off waivers. If he hasn't been, he will become a possible roster replacement for Martinez, though not a likely a replacement for Martinez in the rotation. Jorge Sosa is the most logical rotation replacement at this point, a person familiar with the Mets thinking said Wednesday morning. Nelson Figueroa and Stokes are possible options. Too familiar with the worst-case scenario as it involves Martinez, the Mets weren't even speculating what the maximum time lost might be for the 36-year-old pitcher because of the injury he sustained in the fourth inning of the team's 5-4, 10-inning loss to the Marlins on Tuesday night. But, because of Martinez's age and the fickle nature of hamstring injuries, an assumption existed that the minimum time lost would be four weeks. Orlando Hernandez, assigned to the disabled list through at least April 12, is a less-than-immediate solution and not a particularly sound one either. He is to pitch in a Class A game Thursday. El Duque is still adjusting to the delivery he twice modified in Spring Training -- first to reduce the stress in the bunion on his right foot, then to restore some power to the delivery and velocity to his pitches. Sosa is ideally placed to take Martinez's spot in the rotation immediately, because he replaced the injured starter Tuesday night and pitched 2 2/3 innings. He also pitched in the Opening Day game, tossing merely six pitches. So chances are he will not pitch Wednesday in the final game of the series in Miami, and he can begin to recuperate for a start. Moreover, Sosa is the best pitcher available, a considerably stronger and more competitive pitcher than Figueroa, who is on the roster of the Mets' Triple A New Orleans affiliate, or Stokes, who was in limbo as Wednesday began. The Mets designated him for assignment and sought waivers on him last week when they made their final roster cuts. They had no idea whether Stokes would be claimed, but if he were not, they could retain him and considered assigning him to their big league bullpen to fill the vacancy created if they were to move Sosa to the rotation. The Mets developed some regard for Stokes' fastball-changeup combination and swing-and-miss pitching during Spring Training, though in-game results were not particularly impressive. He passed Rule 5 Draft selection Steve Register on the depth chart. The Mets won't need a starting pitcher until April 12, even though Martinez had been scheduled to pitch Tuesday in the opening home game. Because Oliver Perez is to pitch Wednesday night, one night before an off-day, he will have more than enough rest before the team begins its series against the Phillies.

[metsmarathon]

="Benjamin Grimm"] ="Marty Noble"]The Mets won't need a starting pitcher until April 12

i suspect that we may need one rather sooner, myself.

[metirish]

From Newday Blog.

] Figueroa replaces Pedro Nelson Figueroa is the replacement for Pedro Martinez. He's on his way from New Orleans and should be here in about 45 minutes.

This was posted at 3:18

] Pedro just landed in NYC Looks like it could be a while before we get a status report on Pedro Martinez because he's still about a 45-minute cab ride away from an MRI tube. His flight from Miami to NYC just landed minutes ago at JFK. ESPN 1050's Andrew Marchand, who was on the same flight with Martinez, spoke with him aa.jpegearlier today and the pitcher sounded relatively upbeat. He also wasn't limping, which is a good sign. Marchand reported that Martinez said he feels "OK" and was unsure if he would need to go on the disabled list. Martinez is now headed from JFK airport to the Hospital for Special Surgery in Manhattan for the MRI and an evaluation by team orthopedist David Altchek. Martinez was forced to leave Tuesday's game in the fourth inning after clutching the back of his left leg and yelling in pain. The initial diagnosis is a strained left hamstring, and the Mets are waiting for the results of today's MRI before giving a timetable for his return.

So he's probably not even had the MRI yet.

[Benjamin Grimm]

How do you get from New Orleans to Miami in 15 minutes?

[HahnSolo]

Willie on the FAN right now, says Pedro is probably having the MRI right now.

Even without the results yet, anyone up for guessing when we'll next see Pedro pitching for the Mets? I'll set my expectations low and say June 10 against the Diamondbacks at Shea.

[metirish]

SNY reporting that the results are back and it's a mild strain to his left hammy, placed on the 15 Day DL, out 4 - 6 weeks.

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

CF - "That MRI machine sure is taking a long time."

How hard can it be to find a geriatric specialist in Florida?

[soupcan]

metirish wrote: SNY reporting that the results are back and it's a mild strain to his left hammy, placed on the 15 Day DL, out 4 - 6 weeks.

'Strain'. Huh. Wonder where the 'pop' Pedro heard came from.

[metirish]

Well you know that 4 - 6 weeks will be 4 -6 months..lazy fucker.

[Valadius]

Oh good Christ.

[nymr83]

we knew this was a strong possibility. lets hope el duque can last the 4-6 weeks that it takes pedro to get back.

[Guest Triple Dee]

I just wonder whose fixer is calling it a "strain" and not a "tear", Pedro's or Omar's?

[Guest AG/DC]

If it's a tear, his season is over, and no amount of spin will protect them.

[Guest Triple Dee]

Actually they are the same thing;

] A Hamstring injury is common in sports. Hamstring injuries are sometimes known as a 'pulled Hamstring'. The term 'pulled muscle' comes from the description of how the injury takes place. Usually the Hamstring muscle is forcibly stretched beyond its limits and the muscle tissue becomes torn. A tear in the Hamstring muscle is referred to as a Hamstring strain and depending on its severity it is classified as a first, second or third degree strain. http://www.physioroom.com/injuries/hip_and_thigh/hamstring_strain_sum.php

[Guest AG/DC]

Well, I guess I sit corrected. I understand that all levels of the injury involve tissue torn to some degree, sports teams seem to describe muscle injuries in gradations of "strain"/"pull"/"tear," don't they?

[soupcan]

I heard 'mild strain' which tells me that it is not a tear in the way we think of a tear.

I conclude that Pedro heard no 'pop' and as a result my original theory (which can be found on page 1 of this thread) gains a bit of credibility - in my mind anyway.

[metirish]

I don't know Soupcan. Endy said when it happened to him he heard two pops so he felt it was good news that Pedro heard one pop , I couldn't make this stuff up. In conclusion I think that two pops is a tear while one pop is a mild strain.

[soupcan]

irish - I thought you and I had some kind of bond. The whole Manic Street Preachers thing and all. But you just keep shooting me down on my whiny Pedro theory and I'm not appreciative of that.

Either you ignore the facts and accept my distorted view of the sports world or I'm taking 'Kevin Carter' off my published iTunes mix.

[metirish]

KC will not be happy about that.

[Willets Point]

I can attest that one can hear/feel popping sounds in one's body without actually tearing muscles. It happened once when I sprained my ankle and I believe it's common when numerous types of injuries occur.

[soupcan]

Enough with the evidence.

My theory sells papers!

[Benjamin Grimm]

Trainers should wire each player with microphones so that, if a pop occurs, they can play back the pop to help them in their evaluation.

And then the pops can be available for downloading from iTunes so that the fans can weigh in as well.

[Valadius]

I hear pops all the time in my right elbow.

[metirish]

Valadius wrote: I hear pops all the time in my right elbow.

Easy to fix that Val, stop choking the turkey so much.

[Guest AG/DC]

You ever sit next to Valadius at a game? It's a like sitting next to fucking popcorn machine. Makes me sick just thinking about it.

[soupcan]

Only if you sit on his right side though. Left side - perfectly quiet.