For Real?

[smg58]

Did anybody know who Flores was when he was claimed? The Mets obviously assumed that nobody would Rule 5 a guy who hadn't yet played above A-ball. But somebody for the Nationals saw something in Flores that the Mets overlooked. A crucial mistake in hindsight, but I don't know if anybody recognized it as such at the time.

[bmfc1]

"But somebody for the Nationals...."

The story is that "somebody" was Davey Johnson who was under contract to the Nationals as a consultant.

[Guest iramets]

bmfc1 wrote: "But somebody for the National...." The story is that "somebody" was Davey Johnson who was under contract to the Nationals as a consultant.

I read somewhere thast Acta is getting credited for this one.

[bmfc1]

"Success has many fathers...."

[Valadius]

From the Daily News:

]Milledge, 22, reportedly was offered with Aaron Heilman and Phillip Humber to the Orioles in a proposal that was rejected. Including Milledge did not make it more desirable to Baltimore, but one baseball official said, "You put Church or Gomez in place of Milledge in an offer and it might be a more attractive offer." It speaks to how Milledge's tumultuous time with the Mets has damaged his status as a top prospect. In 2006, Milledge irritated the Mets after hitting his first career home run, sharing high-fives with fans en route to taking his position in right field. And he irked teammates enough that one hung an anonymous note in his locker that read, "Know your place, Rook!" Earlier this year, the franchise was embarrassed by his performance on a rap song that had offensive language and was seen as derogatory to women.

[Guest iramets]

Valadius wrote: From the Daily News: ]Milledge, 22, reportedly was offered with Aaron Heilman and Phillip Humber to the Orioles in a proposal that was rejected. Including Milledge did not make it more desirable to Baltimore, but one baseball official said, "You put Church or Gomez in place of Milledge in an offer and it might be a more attractive offer." It speaks to how Milledge's tumultuous time with the Mets has damaged his status as a top prospect. In 2006, Milledge irritated the Mets after hitting his first career home run, sharing high-fives with fans en route to taking his position in right field. And he irked teammates enough that one hung an anonymous note in his locker that read, "Know your place, Rook!" Earlier this year, the franchise was embarrassed by his performance on a rap song that had offensive language and was seen as derogatory to women.

Which Orioles did they say a Heilman-Humber-Church package would fetch? Bedard? How does that deal seem to you folks, essentially Milledge-Heilman-Humber for Bedard-Schneider?

[Valadius]

The assumption is it's Bedard. And I'd feel better about it.

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

If the idea was to get a player to package in a deal with the Orioles for Bedard, then I would hope that the deal was pretty well set pending the first deal. Therte is no indication that such a deal is in the offing, particularly since Omar is insisteing that Church will be the Mets starting right fielder.

If a deal for Bedard was indeed offered if the Mets would package Heilman, Humber and Gomez, then I would have preferred they pull the trigger on that deal and held on to Milledge to play right filed with Endy serving as the fourth outfielder.

Personally, I'm starting to think that Omar is still trying to rebuild the Nationals towards respectability.

[Guest iramets]

Rockin' Doc wrote: If the idea was to get a player to package in a deal with the Orioles for Bedard, then I would hope that the deal was pretty well set pending the first deal. Therte is no indication that such a deal is in the offing, particularly since Omar is insisteing that Church will be the Mets starting right fielder. If a deal for Bedard was indeed offered if the Mets would package Heilman, Humber and Gomez, then I would have preferred they pull the trigger on that deal and held on to Milledge to play right filed with Endy serving as the fourth outfielder. Personally, I'm starting to think that Omar is still trying to rebuild the Nationals towards respectability.

Well, of course Omar is known to tell some huge whoppers in the interests of spinning things that put the Mets in a good light. So you can't really say that he's lying, even if he has no desire at to keep and to play Church, because he'll get more for Church if he acts as if he's perfectly satisfied to have him as his regular RFer. No other GM in baseball is smart enough to view that line as obvious BS, so he's cleverly pulling the wool over all their eyes.

Your thesis that he's running for GM of the year, and is still on the Nats' payroll, is intriguing. I would like to subscribe to your newsletter on the subject.

[seawolf17]

Every GM is going to say that; he can't go on M&MD last night and say, "Well, we're not even fitting Church for a uni, because we're just going to dump him on the Orioles."

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

]I was stunned to read that Omar thinks that Church will be in the everyday RF

He would seem to call for a RH-hitting platoonmate. I would think we go get one of those if we really wind up with him.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

]I was stunned to read that Omar thinks that Church will be in the everyday RF

He would seem to call for a RH-hitting platoonmate. I would think we go get one of those if we really wind up with him.

[Zvon]

As far as the immediate future goes, I like this deal.

Some of my fav kabooms go out the window, but I still think we got 2 more things we needed, esp a good man behind the plate defensively.
Church swings half a mean bat.

Lastings may live up to his potential in part or in whole, but looks like the Mets were not ready to give him the chance any time soon.

Better to get what we need now while we can.

[Theoldmole]

I can handle trading Lastings, though I hate it, because they have the depth behind him, but I'm not impressed with the trade.

[Guest Edgy DC]

smg58 wrote: Did anybody know who Flores was when he was claimed?

Yes, he was their best catching prospect, even after he had a terrible and injurious year at Hagerstown in 2005. He rebounded furiously at St. Lucie in 2006. It was a great move by the Nats the day they made it.

[DocTee]

La-Sting has a new partner in crime, as the Gnats add troubled OF Elijah Dukes to the roster.

[smg58]

With Pena and Kearns already in the corners, and the possibility of Dmitri Young moving to leftfield when/if Nick Johnson is ready, I'll wager they're not done dealing either.

[Guest Edgy DC]

That's another trademark of Bowden's Reds: more players than they need in the outfield and at first.

[metsmarathon]

why does it say "no post exists for this topic" if i click on the last page of the thread, currently on #6?

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

It appears that all posts JC Lunchbucket has made have been removed. Why did that asshole get banned?

[Guest Edgy DC]

We have the technology to fix this.