Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted November 20, 2007 Posted November 20, 2007 First Mets MVP?Former Mets who have won it:Kevin Mitchell, NL, 1989Jeff Kent, NL, 2000Future Mets who have won it:Yogi Berra, AL, 1951, 1954, 1955Willie Mays, NL, 1954, 1965Ken Boyer, NL, 1964Joe Torre, NL, 1971George Foster, NL, 1977Keith Hernandez, NL, 1979Rickey Henderson, AL, 1990Mo Vaughn, AL, 1995
soupcan Old-Timey Member Posted November 20, 2007 Posted November 20, 2007 I'm thinking it might happen.The Gold Glove has given me hope.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted November 20, 2007 Posted November 20, 2007 Gold Glove certainly suggests voters think he fields better than Chipper Jones. (He does.) The Silver Slugger suggests voters think he hits better than Miggy Cabrera.
HahnSolo Old-Timey Member Posted November 20, 2007 Posted November 20, 2007 I think he will finish fourth.
Guest metsguyinmichigan Guests Posted November 20, 2007 Posted November 20, 2007 I'd do cartwheels down the middle of the newsroom if Wright gets the award he deserves. But I fear it will go to Rollins. There was a lot of talk about him near the end.What I think helps Wright was that there was no clear-cut guy. He could get it if he also gets a bunch of second-place votes and Rollins and Holliday get some third and fourth place votes.
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted November 20, 2007 Posted November 20, 2007 I sorta think Rollins deserves it but Wright will win it. I mean, you could make a good casde for either guy. I just think that Wright has the better buzz for whatever reason.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted November 20, 2007 Posted November 20, 2007 The Mets collapse certainly could be a buzzkill. I just hope buzz-sensitive writers were paying attention enough to recall that he was tearing it up while his team was crashing.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted November 20, 2007 Posted November 20, 2007 Remember, though, that the voting took place immediately after the end of the regular season, when memories of the Mets epic collapse were in the front of everyone's minds.THAT is going to cost David Wright some MVP points. Probably a lot of points. The Phillies overtaking the Mets gives Rollins a big advantage.My guess is that Rollins wins it.
RealityChuck Old-Timey Member Posted November 20, 2007 Posted November 20, 2007 I'd be delighted if Wright won it, but since the Phillies made the playoffs and the Mets collapsed, then Rollins is more likely. MVP is not chosen on stats alone, and unless you're a clearcut choice, finishing second is a big disadvantage.Hopefully, I'll be wrong on this.
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted November 20, 2007 Posted November 20, 2007 Perhaps Rollins and Holliday will split the Hot Team vote and Wright can sneak through on general excellence. I wouldn't count on it, though. That collapse was an award-killer.
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted November 20, 2007 Posted November 20, 2007 Who IYO deserves to win?I have to say Rollins and just for the whole, beat the Mets asses thing.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted November 20, 2007 Posted November 20, 2007 I'd go with J Rollins, he talked the talk as it were and I'm sure voters will have that in mind as much as the Mets collapse.
soupcan Old-Timey Member Posted November 20, 2007 Posted November 20, 2007 ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]Who IYO deserves to win?Rollins.
HahnSolo Old-Timey Member Posted November 20, 2007 Posted November 20, 2007 Rollins.Incidentally, espn.com polled 20 of their contributors. Here are the results:Rollins - 13Holliday - 4Wright - 3
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted November 20, 2007 Posted November 20, 2007 MLB.com is leading with "Race for NL MVP Too Close to call" along with a banner composite image of Prince Fielder, Matt Holliday, and Jimmy Rollins. I'm guessing MLB wouldn't let their house media outlet leave out the eventual winner. Looking bad for Wright.
Valadius Old-Timey Member Posted November 20, 2007 Posted November 20, 2007 It would be a huge upset if Wright won. But it could happen. Rollins may lose some votes in favor of Utley and Howard, and Holliday could get penalized for playing at Coors, but I don't see the latter happening as much as the former.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted November 20, 2007 Posted November 20, 2007 that's not ESPN insider material, is it?
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted November 20, 2007 Posted November 20, 2007 I'll get rid of it....sorry.
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted November 20, 2007 Posted November 20, 2007 Rollins was an outsized presence as the Phillies took aim at the Mets. He gets my reluctant vote. And I don't doubt he'll win.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted November 20, 2007 Posted November 20, 2007 IMO:RollinsHollidayWrightFielder
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted November 20, 2007 Posted November 20, 2007 Neyer defending his love for Wright.]John (Washington DC): Rob, can you explain to the viewers yours, and Keith Law's, complete love for the NY Mets? David Wright is "NOT" better than Chipper Jones. The award he was GIVEN was the gold glove...has NOTHING TO DO WITH OFFENSE. He's a good ball player, but come on. He is being punished because his team will be known this past season as the ultimate chokers? Give me a break. He was nowhere near as VALUABLE as Rollins or Holliday. Rob Neyer: (12:53 PM ET ) John, EVERY non-traditional measure of offense and EVERY non-traditional measure of defense suggest that Wright was better than Jones in both phases of the game. You're ignoring park effects in your "analysis," which is okay because you don't get to vote for anything. But it's a shame that many of the actual voters share your awareness. I'll take this down in a while.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted November 20, 2007 Posted November 20, 2007 Neyer has been unfairly accused of an anti-Mets bias for so long, it's nice (funny nice) to see him get tagged as a Met-lover.If he's anything, he can be sometimes the former, not because he hates Mr. Met, Tom Seaver, New York, or the blue and orange. He just hates cranks, which Met fans can be in large numbers. But it's a rare day when that distorts his understanding of the data.
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted November 20, 2007 Posted November 20, 2007 My vote went to Holliday, but it got returned because they say I'm "not part of the BBWAA." Elitist pricks.
metsmarathon Old-Timey Member Posted November 20, 2007 Posted November 20, 2007 david wright was the best player in the national league this past season, and increased his team's win totals moreso than any other player in the league. therefore he should be the nl mvp.
TransMonk Old-Timey Member Posted November 20, 2007 Posted November 20, 2007 If I had a vote it would go to Wright.
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