SCHAEFER METS PLAYER OF THE MONTH: AUGUST 2007

[Benjamin Grimm]

SCHAEFER METS PLAYER AND PITCHER OF THE MONTH, AUGUST 2007

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The Schaefer Mets Player of the Month for August 2007 is DAVID WRIGHT. This is David's third win this season and fifth overall. He is the first Met to be named Player of the Month five times. Wright led the Mets in August with 28 runs, 39 hits, 26 walks, a .394 batting average and and on base percentage of .516. Wright's 6 home runs were second to Moises Alou's 7. He also had 21 runs batted in, trailing only Carlos Beltran, who had 23.

The Schaefer Mets Pitcher of the Month for August 2007 is ORLANDO HERNANDEZ.
Hernandez edged Tom Glavine for the honor, beating him by a mere 0.13 points. This is Hernandez's second win. (He previously won this honor in September 2006.) In six starts in August, Hernandez was 2-0 with an ERA of 4.17. He led the Mets in innings pitched with 36.2 and finished second to Oliver Perez (39) in strikeouts, with 37.

Month-to-date totals for August 2007
Through game of August 31, 2007

Rank	Name	Points
1	David Wright	28.34
2	Carlos Beltran	22.45
3	Jos� Reyes	18.26
4	Moises Alou	16.92
5	Carlos Delgado	15.45
6	Orlando Hernandez	14.47
7	Tom Glavine	14.34
8	Luis Castillo	12.74
9	Marlon Anderson	12.15
10	Oliver Perez	9.27
11	Jorge Sosa	8.57
12	Lastings Milledge	8.56
13	Shawn Green	7.02
14	John Maine	5.87
15	Aaron Heilman	5.28
16	Pedro Feliciano	5.13
17	Damion Easley	4.88
18	Mike DiFelice	4.38
19	Guillermo Mota	4.28
20	Brian Lawrence	4.18
21	Billy Wagner	3.78
22	Ramon Castro	3.69
23	Scott Schoeneweis	2.78
24	Aaron Sele	2.61
25	Paul Lo Duca	2.40
26	Endy Chavez	2.02
27	Ruben Gotay	1.90
28	David Newhan	1.87
29	Jeff Conine	1.72
30	Sandy Alomar	0.45

Previous Winners

Year	April	May	June	July	August	September
2005	Cliff Floyd Player of the Month Pedro Martinez Pitcher of the Month	Mike Cameron Player of the Month Pedro Martinez Pitcher of the Month	Cliff Floyd Player of the Month Pedro Martinez Pitcher of the Month	Jos� Reyes Player of the Month Pedro Martinez Pitcher of the Month	David Wright Player of the Month Tom Glavine Pitcher of the Month	Tom Glavine Player of the Month, Pitcher of the Month
2006	Tom Glavine Player of the Month, Pitcher of the Month	Carlos Beltran Player of the Month Pedro Martinez Pitcher of the Month	David Wright Player of the Month Alay Soler Pitcher of the Month	Carlos Beltran Player of the Month John Maine Pitcher of the Month	Jos� Reyes Player of the Month Steve Trachsel Pitcher of the Month	Carlos Delgado Player of the Month Orlando Hernandez Pitcher of the Month
2007	Jos� Reyes Player of the Month John Maine Pitcher of the Month	David Wright Player of the Month Oliver Perez Pitcher of the Month	John Maine Player of the Month, Pitcher of the Month	David Wright Player of the Month John Maine Pitcher of the Month	David Wright Player of the Month Orlando Hernandez Pitcher of the Month

Edited September 6, 2007 by Guest

[metirish]

] This is Maine's second win. (He previously won this honor in

Typo there Yancy.....congrats to both David and El Duque,was that the tightest race ever for first place?

[Benjamin Grimm]

Thanks. Typo was fixed.

You mean first place among the pitchers, I assume. The answer is: I don't know. If you're curious, go to http://potg.ultimatemets.com and you can see for yourself.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Fantastic. Can we do an all-time monthly point-total list? I'd like to know whose had the Schaferiest months ever.

[Benjamin Grimm]

You can find that out by poking around at http://potg.ultimatemets.com.

Keep in mind that Schaefer totals were higher in 2005 when we had the "must vote 10 points" rule in effect.

[Guest Edgy DC]

We have a dogfight brewing for Pitcher of the Year. Tom Glavine could win it while never winning any particularly month.

Meanwhile, Billy Wagner sits behind Damion Easley. DAMION EASLEY!

[metirish]

Edgy DC wrote: We have a dogfight brewing for Pitcher of the Year. Tom Glavine could win it while never winning any particularly month. Meanwhile, Billy Wagner sits behind Damion Easley. DAMION EASLEY!

And Mike DiFelice....hell he sits behind Mota and Lawrence.

[Guest Edgy DC]

DiFelice's target should be David Newhan for the coveted 30th slot.

In our rankings (not that this isn't a different beast), only the first 30 guys get paid.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Well, that's just for August, irish. In the season voting, Wagner (14th place) is well ahead of DiFelice (34th), Lawrence (35th) and Mota (23rd). But he is behind Easley (13th).

Wagner's 14th makes sense to me. (I don't really think the role of a closer is as important as others do.) Easley's 13th is more surprising.

[Centerfield]

Not much surprise there in either category. I think the forum got it right.

[Frayed Knot]

I think PotG has been under-rewarding Wagner. Not in August, just in general. I've seen an awful lot of small or even non-existant scores even on days when he's put up a perfect inning while protecting a 1-run lead.
Even last season - when he wasn't as good as this year and was, at least theoretically, going up against a tougher crew - he still managed to finish 12th.

On the other hand, our year-end rankings project partially made up for it - there he finished 7th overall last season and none of the participants kept him out of their personal top 10.
Maybe this means that closers tend to be appreciated on the whole, just not on a day-to-day basis.

[Gwreck]

Frayed Knot wrote: I think PotG has been under-rewarding Wagner. Not in August, just in general. I've seen an awful lot of small or even non-existant scores even on days when he's put up a perfect inning while protecting a 1-run lead.

I tend to believe to most voters undervalue our relief. I felt that way last year too.

Generally speaking, I try to vote one point per scoreless inning in a save situation for all relievers (reduced proportionally in exceptional circumstances). I get the impression that such a vote is on the high end for relievers.

[Benjamin Grimm]

How Billy Wagner has earned his Schaefer points
(Sorted in order of points awarded)

He seems to do better, on the whole, when he saves a one-run game with a scoreless inning. (In those cases, I always give him at least 1 point.)

When he gives up runs, or is protecting a larger lead, he gets fewer points.

If he were to come in with a three-run lead, and give up two and get the save, I wouldn't give him any points for that. It doesn't look like that's happened this year.

I can see a few games where he seems to have been cheated. The 0.72 points on August 8, for example.

Date	Opponent	Result	Points	ip	h	r	er	so	bb	decision
06/25/2007	Cardinals	W, 2-1	1.68	2	0	0	0	3	0
05/11/2007	Brewers	W, 5-4	1.09	1	0	0	0	0	0	Sv
07/14/2007	Reds	W, 2-1	1.09	1	0	0	0	1	0	Sv
05/18/2007	Yankees	W, 3-2	1.08	1	1	0	0	2	0	Sv
06/29/2007	Phillies	W, 6-5	1.08	1	0	0	0	3	0	Sv
07/28/2007	Nationals	W, 3-1	1.06	1	0	0	0	0	0	Sv
04/13/2007	Nationals	W, 3-2	1.04	1	0	0	0	0	0	Sv
06/23/2007	Athletics	W, 1-0	0.95	1	1	0	0	1	0	W
05/23/2007	Braves	W, 3-0	0.9	1	1	0	0	2	0	Sv
06/26/2007	Cardinals	L, 3-5	0.88	1	0	0	0	1	0
04/29/2007	Nationals	W, 1-0	0.87	1	1	0	0	1	0	Sv
05/09/2007	Giants	W, 5-3	0.87	1	0	0	0	2	0	Sv
07/22/2007	Dodgers	W, 5-4	0.87	1	0	0	0	3	2	Sv
05/31/2007	Giants	W, 4-2	0.86	1	0	0	0	2	0	Sv
08/14/2007	Pirates	W, 5-4	0.85	1	0	0	0	1	0	Sv
06/05/2007	Phillies	L, 2-4	0.8	1	1	0	0	1	0
07/20/2007	Dodgers	W, 4-1	0.76	1	0	0	0	1	0	Sv
05/04/2007	Diamondbacks	W, 5-3	0.75	1	0	0	0	1	1	Sv
07/12/2007	Reds	W, 3-2	0.75	1	1	0	0	0	0	Sv
06/15/2007	Yankees	W, 2-0	0.74	1	0	0	0	2	0	Sv
08/01/2007	Brewers	W, 8-5	0.73	1	2	0	0	1	0	Sv
08/08/2007	Braves	W, 4-3	0.72	1	2	0	0	0	1	Sv
08/18/2007	Nationals	W, 7-4	0.7	1	0	0	0	1	1	Sv
04/12/2007	Phillies	W, 5-3	0.68	1	1	0	0	0	0	Sv
06/08/2007	Tigers	W, 3-0	0.68	1	0	0	0	2	0	Sv
07/15/2007	Reds	W, 5-2	0.67	1	0	0	0	0	0	Sv
07/25/2007	Pirates	W, 6-3	0.65	1	0	0	0	0	0	Sv
05/08/2007	Giants	W, 4-1	0.63	1	0	0	0	2	0	Sv
04/03/2007	Cardinals	W, 4-1	0.6	1	0	0	0	0	0	Sv
05/29/2007	Giants	W, 5-4	0.58	1	0	0	0	2	1
05/02/2007	Marlins	W, 6-3	0.55	1	1	0	0	0	0	Sv
09/02/2007	Braves	W, 3-2	0.45	1	2	1	1	0	0	Sv
08/15/2007	Pirates	W, 10-8	0.37	0.2	1	0	0	1	0	Sv
06/20/2007	Twins	L, 2-6	0.33	1	0	0	0	1	0
07/07/2007	Astros	W, 5-3	0.27	1	1	0	0	0	0	Sv
07/05/2007	Astros	W, 6-2	0.22	1	0	0	0	2	1
05/25/2007	Marlins	W, 6-2	0.18	1	2	1	1	2	1
04/28/2007	Nationals	W, 6-2	0.16	1	2	0	0	2	0
08/03/2007	Cubs	W, 6-2	0.11	1	2	0	0	0	0
08/05/2007	Cubs	W, 8-3	0.11	1	1	0	0	1	0
08/12/2007	Marlins	W, 10-4	0.1	1	0	0	0	1	0
05/19/2007	Yankees	W, 10-7	0.09	1	2	1	1	2	0
05/27/2007	Marlins	W, 6-4	0.08	1	1	1	1	2	0	Sv
08/21/2007	Padres	W, 7-6	0.07	1	1	1	1	2	1	W
04/09/2007	Phillies	W, 11-5	0.06	1	0	0	0	2	0
06/29/2007	Phillies	W, 5-2	0.06	1	1	0	0	2	1
04/01/2007	Cardinals	W, 6-1	0.04	1	2	0	0	0	0
05/16/2007	Cubs	W, 8-1	0.04	1	0	0	0	0	0
04/21/2007	Braves	W, 7-2	0.03	1	0	0	0	0	1
08/24/2007	Dodgers	W, 5-2	0.02	1	3	1	1	1	0

[Guest sharpie]

Willie Collazo in yesterday's crappy game probably entered the list way above the bottom few.

[Gwreck]

Other strange ones:

The 1-0 victories on 4/29/07 (at WAS) and 6/23/07 (vs. OAK). Most puzzling perhaps because one would think that
a. Not a whole lot of points earned by the offense; and
b. Even if the starting pitcher got 6, there wasn't a whole point available for pitching a scoreless inning to end the game?

[metsmarathon]

i've actually gone in and reevaluated how i award schaeffer points, particularly to relievers. i've significantly upped the proprietary marathon points for saves, and given a little nudge to inherited runners stranded, among other more subtle differences...

as i looked at my voting for the year i began to realize that marathon points in a save get suppressed by the higher total points seen in a win. more positive contributors mean each individual contribution is lessened when the whole is normalized to a maximum of 10 points. so a contribution such as a save should be inflated, almost artificially, to correct for this.

using my old system, billy was the 12th best met, just ahead of moises alou. using my new system, he's up to 9th best, just ahead of shawn green.

see:

Player	old rank	new rank	difference	old points	new points	difference
Wright	1	1	-	123.1	124.7	1.6
Reyes	2	2	-	96.3	90.7	(5.6)
Beltran	3	3	-	93.0	89.9	(3.1)
Glavine	4	4	-	83.6	83.9	0.3
Delgado	5	6	(1)	80.0	74.9	(5.1)
OHernandez	6	5	1	76.4	76	(0.4)
Maine	7	7	-	67.7	71.8	4.1
Perez	8	8	-	60.4	62.2	1.8
LoDuca	9	11	(2)	48	47.7	(0.3)
Green	10	10	-	46.7	49.6	2.9
Sosa	11	13	(2)	46	43.8	(2.2)
Wagner	12	9	3	43.1	57.5	14.4
Alou	13	15	(2)	40.7	37.7	(3.0)
Heilman	14	14	-	37.3	38.3	1.0
Feliciano	15	12	3	36.7	46.8	10.1
Schoeneweis	16	16	-	34.3	37	2.7
Easley	17	19	(2)	29.2	26.5	(2.7)
Mota	18	18	-	27.5	27.2	(0.3)
Smith	19	17	2	27.1	28.1	1.0
Sele	20	21	(1)	23.5	24.5	1.0
Gotay	21	20	1	23.5	25.4	1.9
Castro	22	22	(1)	22.8	21.7	(1.1)
Milledge	23	23	-	20.6	18.9	(1.7)
Chavez	24	25	(1)	20.4	18.2	(2.2)
Valentin	25	24	1	19.4	18.4	(1.0)
Castillo	26	27	(1)	16.5	14.6	(1.9)
Anderson	27	28	(1)	13.5	12.4	(1.1)
Gomez	28	29	(1)	13.4	12.4	(1.0)
Burgos	29	26	3	12.6	14.8	2.2
Newhan	30	30	-	9.8	10.4	0.6
Pelfrey	31	31	-	8.8	10.3	1.5
Ledee	32	32	-	5.8	5.9	0.1
Lawrence	33	33	-	5.6	5.9	0.3
Franco	34	34	-	5.2	5.7	0.5
Conine	35	35	-	2.1	2.2	0.1
Ambres	36	37	(1)	1.6	1.7	0.1
DiFelice	36	36	-	1.6	2	0.4
Martinez	38	38	-	1.4	1.2	(0.2)
Vargas	38	40	(2)	1.4	0.8	(0.6)
Adkins	40	39	1	1	1	-
Alomar	41	41	-	0.8	0.7	(0.1)
Johnson	42	42	-	0.3	0	(0.3)
Ahernandez	43	42	1	0	0	-
Padilla	43	42	1	0	0	-
Park	43	42	1	0	0	-
Sanchez	43	42	1	0	0	-
Urdaneta	43	42	1	0	0	-
Williams	43	42	1	0	0	-

(thru 4 sept 07)

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

]...points in a save get suppressed by the higher total points seen in a win...

I think that's the whole thing. And because Wagner's most often showing up in close, winning games, I would guess he's also "punished" by heavy rewards to the offensive player who makes the difference.

Lower than Easley seems low, but I don't think a different closer does much better or much worse. Maybe 12 is where he belongs.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Lower than Easley seems butt low.

He's a legitimate All-Star!

[metsmarathon]

win shares has him tied for 8th place with perez & green at 9 win shares apeice. damian easley sits right behind the trio with 8 win shares.

he's the 5th best met pitcher and 9th overall met with a VORP of 20, and his WARP3 is the 6th best overall.

somewhere between 8th & 10th best met sounds the most appropriate to me for billy. i mean, are loduca, green, sosa, alou really better than him this year? i'm not so sure...

sounds like a fun discussion for the end of the year!

[Guest Edgy DC]

I wanna hear from M.E.T.B.O.T.

[metsmarathon]

m.e.t.b.o.t. needs a little help with his html.