Trade Deadline Chatter (Met Division)

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

1. What do you think Omar will do, if anything, at the dealine?

2. What should he do, IYO?

[metirish]

I think Omar will trade for a bat,perhaps Sosa.

Of course last season the trades for El Duque and Green came after the deadline.....

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

1. I think he goes for a Brand Name reliever. Cordero, who he likes, or Gagne/Otsuka/Benoit of Texas. Maybe he also upgrades the bench strength with a Veteran Leader.

2. I think one more solid reliever would be a good thing for this team. There's very little that can be done upfrading the position players at this point: Either they play well or they don't. Xtra relief help will shorten the game.

I'd also like to see if he might be able to sneak in a future catcher, pitcher, 2Bman or 1Bman as part of a deal.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Otsuka would extend our streak of consecutive years with a Japanese player to 11.

[bmfc1]

I think he goes after Chad Cordero but Bowden wants to destroy his trading partners instead of making an equitable deal so that doesn't happen. Perhaps Lidge or Weathers. The problem with Cordero and Lidge is their current teams see them as Closers and want Closer-value in return while other teams see them as set-up guys so they don't value the player as high.

For the bench, Rich Aurilia (St. John's), Kevin Millar, and/or Jeff Conine.

In other words, fine tuning rather than a big splash.

[metirish]

I should add that I think Omar needs to add a right handed bat .

[Guest sharpie]

Houston has said that Lidge absolutely won't be dealt. Otsuka is hurt but I think he'd be available after July 31 anyway.

[HahnSolo]

Conine is intriguing as a right-handed bat off the bench with some pop. IIRC, he had a pretty nice contribution as a late-season pickup with the Marlins in '03.

And I agree with bmfc1's take on Cordero and Lidge.

Did Houston really say that about Lidge? I can't understand their position. Two months ago they would have given him up for a pre-game spread.

[DocTee]

Matt Morris and Rich Aurilia. Mebbe Ray Durham, too

[Guest Edgy DC]

I think he should try to re-acquire Moises Alou.

[Gwreck]

metirish wrote: I think Omar will trade for a bat,perhaps Sosa. Of course last season the trades for El Duque and Green came after the deadline.....

Mota, not El Duque.

[bmfc1]

Funny one, Edgy.

[metirish]

Nice to see someone is paying attention to what I post

[DocTee]

Personally, I think he should go for Reggie Sanders. True, he's oft-injured, but that guy is like a guaranteed ticket to the playoffs.

[seawolf17]

DocTee wrote: Personally, I think he should go for Reggie Sanders. True, he's oft-injured, but that guy is like a guaranteed ticket to the playoffs.

Unfortunately, he only has one ring to show for it, which was over the Yankees so it doesn't count, and a career .195 / .283 / 326 line, with 79 K's in 221 postseason ABs. Ugly.

[DocTee]

Hey, reggie gets us there-- what happens after that is up to the rest of the guys.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Ron Belliard, 2B. NYC native, having a good year, no LT commitment, oughta come cheeply. Like, for Gotay.

Y/N?

[metirish]

Yes,yes ,yes to Belliard.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Belliard would be a great guy to get for the next few months. He's not the second baseman of the future that the Mets need (he's 35) but I suspect that Gotay isn't either.

It's the time of the year, and the type of year, where you have to sacrifice some youth to try to solidify the run for the pennant. So Gotay for Belliard might be worthwhile.

On the other hand, Gotay is 25, and I'd hate to trade Melvin Mora for Mike Bordick all over again.

I have no idea whether or not Gotay is going to turn into anything like Melvin Mora. That's why I'm glad I don't have to make these kinds of decisions.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Indications are Houston is keeping their stars and selling big on role players. On the block:

Chris Burke
Mike Lamb
Mark Loretta
Chad Qualls
Dan Wheeler.

[nymr83]

I have a strange feeling that if we brought Belliard in he'd have a second-half similiar to Bordick's in 2000... well below the expectations set by his first half stats.

I'd love to get Loretta, is he available?

[metirish]

The great thing about being a fan is that you can hammer Omar five years from now if Gotay turned out to be a Mora,all the while claiming that you hated the deal that sent Gotay to the Nationals.

[Guest Edgy DC]

The great thing about this forum is that we'll know if you're lying.

[nymr83]

Edgy DC wrote: The great thing about this forum is that we'll know if you're lying.

unless you said it on EzBoard.

[metirish]

One thing,Belliard is not 35,he was born in 1975.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

One thing about Belliard is he puts the "belly" into Belliard. He'd become one of the shortest and fattest Mets ever. He also had stupid stringy dreadlocks last time I saw him.

I'm kinda thinking that if they really feel Goat's not going to get his D in order this season, he never will and may be worth a Belliard. His trade valu may never be higher either. Or it might.

Perhaps a Belliard-Cordero pkg for Goat and Phil Humber. I could see Omar doing that.

[Guest OlerudOwned]

I was a proponent of signing Belliard during the offseason, before the Easley contract, and I wouldn't mind them dealing for him now. But not for Gotay.

[metirish]

If not Belliard then I could see Omar going for someone like Grudzielanek

Y/N on him?

[Guest Edgy DC]

I was a-down on the Mora signing from day one. Valentine believed we were all over-drawing conclusions about his defense and so did I.

The thing is that, though Bordick was as uselsess as we could have feared, and Mora hit better than we could have dreamed, he never came around defensively, and he's been below average or worse at several defensive positions all through the depressing post-Ripken era in Baltimore.

I give them that much credit. I'm still a pat-stander.

[Benjamin Grimm]

metirish wrote: One thing,Belliard is not 35,he was born in 1975.

Oops, you're right. Sloppy math on my part. He turned 32 in April.