IGT 06/06, Phillies at Mets

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

This team is playing horrifically. We didn't even deserve to be having a rally.

[Zvon]

DocTee wrote: And he pulls up lame to boot. Gotay has to be moving on Franco's hit...has to.

I agree and my brother and I are arguing about this now. I say he had to go, if not on contact, as soon as he see's Howard stretchin out to dive.
I was appalled he didnt score there.
My bro says he woulda been a dead duck.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

It's possible the Goat thought the ball was caught at first.

[Batty31]

Where is the fire? Where is the passion?

[Zvon]

Johnny Dickshot wrote: It's possible the Goat thought the ball was caught at first.

If you mean was it a lineshot in the air, no--it was clearly a ground ball off the bat.
Oy.

[Zvon]

Batty31 wrote: Where is the fire? Where is the passion?

..wheres an outfielder with a freakin arm....

awwwww.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

Schoenweis might be Omar's one move that backfires the most. Lima, Baldwin and Park were all guys just there for insurance. But Schoenweis has a bleeping three-year contract. He's been terrible.

[Guest cooby]

Zvon wrote: ="cooby"]This was the Phillies station's trivia question: Name the two opposing players who have hit the most Shea Stadium homeruns. Burrell and Schmit?

Half right, Schmidt is correct.
The other guy played for the other PA team


(FYI, I thought Burrell and Chipper)

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Stargell

[Guest cooby]

That's it!

[Zvon]

woohoo.
Almost lightens my mood that JD got that.
And it takes ALOT to get me in a bad mood.
Cuz this is the Phils.....they suck.

And im having a HORRIBLE day in fantasy baseball.

[Zvon]

Well, even if the Mets win tomorrow Ill still have to hear it.
UGH.
Horrible. Utterly horrible.
Woe is me

[Guest cooby]

Zvon, I forgot you live in sorta Phillie country too, don't you?

I am already anticipating a visit from my co worker Jason...who not only teases me when the Mets lose, but also because my fantasy team sucks.

[Zvon]

cooby wrote: Zvon, I forgot you live in sorta Phillie country too, don't you? I am already anticipating a visit from my co worker Jason...who not only teases me when the Mets lose, but also because my fantasy team sucks.

lol.

Yep--South Jersey near A.C.

And Comcast here, in their infinite wisdom, removed WPIX from the basic cable package and are holding it hostage until I pay monthly for their digital package.
And what REALLY galls me is they put absolutely NOTHING on that channel in its place.

Writing that did not help my mood at all.
Grrrrrr.

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

The offense is starting to remind me of the pathetic noffense of earlier this millenium. This past week if the pitchers give up more than 2 runs, they are almost assured of losing. One of the starting outfielders have to get healthy and soon.

At least the Marlins beat the Braves so they didn't make up any ground.

[Gwreck]

I went. 4th straight game at Shea that I've gone to that they've lost. Hasn't happened any time in the last 10 years.

Runners at 2nd and 3rd with no outs and nobody scores? Totally unacceptable.

I still don't blame Heilman, not for tonight, or for Molina, or for the other few big homers. It was unfortunate, but with Eaton pitching there was no excuse for the offense to again not show up. Heilman might be struggling a little but he's getting a terrible rap lately. The hatred is unwarranted.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Scapegoating is bad.

I went to see the Nats this evening. Creepy fans were whooping it up for Christian Guzman, who they wanted flayed alive his first two years here.

[bmfc1]

If ND will be out for awhile, and Moises won't be back soon, how about signing Steve Finley (cut by Colorado earlier in the week) to fill the ND role? He's better than Rick Ledee (wow, there's an endorsement!). Plus, he's 42 so he'll fit right in.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I still say they should sign Darryl Strawberry. He can announce it himself from the press box at Shea.

[metirish]

Yancy Street Gang wrote: I still say they should sign Darryl Strawberry. He can announce it himself from the press box at Shea.

Bring back Fran Healy to play the Suzyn Waldman role.

[Centerfield]

I can't figure out why Gotay is not running on contact there. The infield was back, there were runners on 2nd and 3rd. If they play the infield back, you MUST make them throw you out at home. And even if you do, you still have 1st and 3rd with one out. And then they would have had to pitch to Reyes.

That is a bad, bad job by Willie not to have him moving on contact. It's the same mistake Bobby made in Game 1 of the 2000 WS.

[HahnSolo]

Plus, didn't Howard have to semi-dive, or at least make a big stretch to get the ball? He has to score the tying run there.

[Centerfield]

Howard not only dove, he took a half-hour to get his elephant-like body off the ground.

[Frayed Knot]

The thing about going on contact there is that there's very little downside.
By staying it's 2nd & 3rd -- but by going, even if you're thrown out, it's still 1st & 3rd with the same # of outs.

What often happens there is that the runner is free to go unless it's a come-backer or hard-hit to a corner infielder and I suspect what happened is that Gotay froze waiting to see if it would get by Howard and then figured it was too late to re-start again. We all know that Newhan wasn't waiting around so I don't think that the 'wait til it gets through' order was on.