Rubbergame Sunday: ATL (Smoltz) @ NYM (Glavine), 4/22/07

[Guest Kid Carsey]

I shoulda kept my yap shut re: the graph until after the game I guess.

[Guest OlerudOwned]

We don't need Bradford either, with Joe Smith doing that thing he does. We didn't need to be handing out multi-year, big cash contracts to any relief pitchers.

[Guest GYC]

Who am I kidding? I'm going to keep listening... as Schoenweis continues to suck.

[Batty31]

It's about freaking time...

[Guest OlerudOwned]

Well, Schoeneweis retired the lefty like he was supposed to.

He just got the wrong one.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Tom Glavine: "Don't fuck with my victories."

Hey, David Wright. Now.

[Batty31]

David Wright is officially David Wrong...

[Guest Edgy DC]

Lousy call by blue, though.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Hey, Craig Ironhead Wilson, move your ass.

[Guest GYC]

Thankfully, Ryan Langerhans is possibly the biggest waste of a roster space currently in the majors.

[Guest GYC]

Fuck you, Kelly Johnson. Who the fuck are you?

[Guest Edgy DC]

Kelly=smelly.

Bullpen=really smelly.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Jose.

Do it again.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Growp!

Nice battle, Paul.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

We should stop giving up 3-run homers and start hitting a few. How disgusting.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Wright plays a grounder like a wax dummy.

Has nobody learned the lesson of Willie Mays Hays?

[MFS62]

Hey, Seo.
Next time you feel the urge to produce a graph, try this.

Find the numbers.
Generate it.
Print it.
Tape the printout to an anvil.
Drop it on your PC.

Later

[Guest Edgy DC]

McCann is a mann.

[A Boy Named Seo]

MFS62 wrote: Hey, Seo. Next time you feel the urge to produce a graph, try this. Find the numbers. Generate it. Print it. Tape the printout to an anvil. Drop it on your PC. Later

Yeah, sorry, that damn graph just couldn't get anybody out in the 7th.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Hang in there.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Wow. Poop.

[Guest Edgy DC]

If only Mighty Greeny
Could get a chance at bat

[Gwreck]

Sucked. Braves fans are almost as annoying as Yankees fans, especially when they win in your house. Dammit.

Franco batting instead of Newhan or Endy, with a righty pitcher up. If we were playing for the sac fly, would've used Easley or Castro first. Strange.

Leaving Feliciano in to intentionally walk the bases loaded instead of pulling him and going after Francoeur. Strange. Also, where was Smith?

Second time in two games that Schoenweis has come on and walked the first batter he faced. Figured he would've gotten pulled after the walk, like he was on Saturday. Strange.

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

The Mets did a great job of battling back to take the lead in the bottom of the sixth. Then the bullpen and defense combine to implode and virtually hand the game back to the Braves. Sure Renteria and Johnson hit the big home runs, but had the defense not dropped, booted, and kicked numerous balls while the relievers were busy walking and hitting numerous Braves hitters, they likely never would have goten the chance to hit the big shots.

This team can look so good, but at times they just tend to collapse and play like crap. They have notably had a tendency to do collapse in games against the Braves.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

I don't get Schoeneweis myself. How about we drop Wright to 8th until he proves he can help this team.

[Frayed Knot]

Braves got 8 of their 9 runs on three seperate two-out hits off of three different pitchers. Not much more to say about this game than that. Change even one of those to an inning-ending out and at worst you're looking at extras.

The best offensive inning of the year was followed by the worst 2-inning bullpen stint of the year.

Judging just on the bit of talk radio I've heard tonight, this is the most disgruntled Met fans have been all season and maybe since 2005. The funny part is that much of it is aimed at Burgos who was the only reliever not to shit on himself today aside from that "double" that Green should have put in his pocket. But, in addition to him, the general consensus is that Willie suxx, Shoeneweis suxx, Heilman suxx, Wright suxx, Franco suxx, and we'll never beat the Braves again.

I don't know what to make of Green's defense. He looks fine going after balls and, although he isn't as fast as when he was younger, he's hardly ploddingly slow and doesn't look jumpy or unsure of himself out there. But he often manages to just miss a number of balls including stuff that hits him in the glove. I mean, some guys you can just tell they're shakey just by watching them track a fly. Green doesn't look that way even if the result winds up the same. Weird.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Well, he clearly didn't know where the wall was there.

Agreed that Burgos had nothing to feel bad about.

[Guest iramets]

Frayed Knot wrote: The funny part is that much of it is aimed at Burgos who was the only reliever not to shit on himself today aside from that "double" that Green should have put in his pocket. But, in addition to him, the general consensus is that Willie suxx, Shoeneweis suxx, Heilman suxx, Wright suxx, Franco suxx, and we'll never beat the Braves again.

This known as "having a track record," or "residual grief"--Willie in particular has lucked out this season (getting huge run support in games where he's made bonehead moves that no one can give him much grief about, given the game's outcome) so he catches it (ALL of it) in a big loss.

As to Burgos, I'm sure many thought "I don't want this untested punk to get another test against the Braves" so when the game goes south, they remember thinking "I told you NO BURGOS, ASSHOLE" even if the move(kinda) worked anyway here.

Franco DOES suck, Schoenweis is a new guy who hasn't attracted much fan-love yet, and Dwright hasn't exactly been a powerhouse in the clutch lately. If your point is that the Met fans are ignorant abusers of their excellent players when they lose, you're right as far as Heilman and Wright go, but the other cases you cite there's good reasons for thinking as they do.

[Centerfield]

I had no problem with Burgos facing Thorman (though I did have a problem with Green dropping the ball). I don't see why Shoeneweis was left in to face Renteria. You can go against the book when the game is not on the line, like with Burgos/Thorman, but once the move doesn't work out, how many times are you going to tempt fate? Renteria was the tying run. You bring in the righty there. At this point I seriously started wondering if Willie understood the whole lefty/righty concept.

The move I had the biggest problem with, though it worked out, was walking Francoer and leaving Shoeneweis in to face McCann. I don't know how many batters had to reach before Willie was going to understand that Scott didn't have it that day.

[metirish]

Johnny Dickshot wrote: I don't get Schoeneweis myself. How about we drop Wright to 8th until he proves he can help this team.

Agreed on about Wright,he looks lost at the plate.