Met Count

[Guest Edgy DC]

#800 Moises Alou

#801 Joe Smith

#802 David Newhan

#803 Scott Schoeneweis

#804 Ambiorix Burgos

#805 Aaron Sele

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

Just curious. How do you count a Tim Foli type who had two tours with us? Does he count once, or twice like Gover Cleveland?

[Frayed Knot]

Once.
Cleveland was part of a one at a time succession, Foli wasn't.

[stevejrogers]

FWIW the 2007 Met media guide clocks the number at 797, yet they list all the names listed in Yancy's ATR page (which is used here!

Not sure how that happened, maybe they need a good copy editior!

Also, can't recall the name, or the year, there was one name that somehow got into the roster list and was removed the following year, I'll have to comb the books for it. I believe it was very early 1990's.

[Guest iramets]

I, for one, would be interested in an account of various steps and mis-steps Yancy had to take to get at such a precise head-count.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

What I think we as a forum should do is count up together in a fabulous 700-post thread.

I'll go start it.

[Benjamin Grimm]

iramets wrote: I, for one, would be interested in an account of various steps and mis-steps Yancy had to take to get at such a precise head-count.

You know, I wish I had an interesting story to tell about that but I don't. I seem to remember very early on comparing lists with the future Johnny Dickshot. I might have had a few players for his list and he may have had a couple for mine, but we cross checked each other in the first month or two of both of our sites being live.

The list of players has been complete pretty much from the very beginning.

[Guest Edgy DC]

#806!! Chan Ho Park!!

[Guest iramets]

Yancy Street Gang wrote: ="iramets"]I, for one, would be interested in an account of various steps and mis-steps Yancy had to take to get at such a precise head-count. You know, I wish I had an interesting story to tell about that but I don't. I seem to remember very early on comparing lists with the future Johnny Dickshot. I might have had a few players for his list and he may have had a couple for mine, but we cross checked each other in the first month or two of both of our sites being live. The list of players has been complete pretty much from the very beginning.

JD's site has someone complaining that two Mets (Les Rohr and More Roar, I think) had been omitted from the headcount, though it's a bit unclear as to when that was corrected, etc. JD or Yancy, care to comment? I don't get what this guy was complaining about or if he had a valid complaint, how and when it got cleared up.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Those guys appaarently were left off the all-time roster published in the Mets media guide.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Park is 807, Gotay is 808.


I'm not aware of the Les Rohr controversy.

I used to get a lot of e-mails saying stuff like,"Why isn't my neighbor in your database? He told me he played for the Mets in 1974."

The link I put on the roster page seems to have put a halt to those kinds of questions. I wonder now how many of those inquiries might have been for people who are now in the database as minor leaguers.

[Gwreck]

Yancy Street Gang wrote: Park is 807, Gotay is 808.

I was going to say. I think we missed Easley somewhere in there.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Sorry, I missed Easley.

#806!! Damian Easley!!

#807!! Chan Ho Park!!

#808!! Ruben Gotay!!

[Guest Edgy DC]

Jorge Sosa!! #809!!

[Frayed Knot]

]I used to get a lot of e-mails saying stuff like,"Why isn't my neighbor in your database? He told me he played for the Mets in 1974." The link I put on the roster page seems to have put a halt to those kinds of questions. I wonder now how many of those inquiries might have been for people who are now in the database as minor leaguers.

Twice now in the last few years my nephew's Little League coach has told the parents that he was a former major league player - which prompts my sister to e-mail her baseball-savvy brothers wondering if they remember him. Except that both times the guy has failed both our memories and the Baseball-Reference test. We did dig up some minor league history and draft status on the last guy and it is possible that what he claimed was being in the StL Cardinal or Tex Ranger system not necc their MLB club and it was mis-understood. Either that or he's trying too hard to impress suburban moms figuring that no one will call him on it, who knows?

[stevejrogers]

One of my Dad's friends had his son (elementary school age) in a baseball instruction thing where the guy claimed to be a former Met and the father kept asking me if I heard of the guy, for some reason he never quite got the actual name; He thought it was some son of a famous ballplayer and for some reason either Roberto Clemente Jr or Eduardo Perez kept going in his mind.

Well they never did find out exactly what the story was, (i.e what EXACTLY was his name so I could have said "Ahh, Norfolk Tides 1995-1996" or something) and for that the kid thinks the guy was a flat out lier rather than a guy just trying to buff up his resume to get more customers for his instructional camp thing.

[Guest iramets]

Never ceases to amaze me how readily humans will lie when they foolishly believe they cant get caught.

I mean, we've got incredibly precise and exhaustive records going back well over a century, with researchers looking into this stuff with increasing scrutiny to bolster our already-exhaustive knowledge, and these bozos are making up shit that won't withstand a casual glance. It's like I told you guys that I was President of the U.S. between Carter and Reagan and confidently thinkng "Who the hell will check it out?--probably, there's no definitive record, anyway. Ha, ha."

Talk about your resume-padding! "I once fantasized that I was a MLB player" = "I was a MLB player."

[Frayed Knot]

There was a 'Monty Python' skit which was a game-show parody called 'Stake Your Claim'. In it the contestant had to stake his claim to something and see if it would stand up to scrutiny.
So the first guy's claim is that he was the one to have actually written all of Shakespeare's works:
"that's right, and me wife wrote all the sonnets"

Emcee: "First question: How old are you Mr. Smith"
Smith: "Forty-Three"
Emcee: "Well these works are known to have been performed in the 17th century over three-hundred years before your birth, how could you have possibly done them then?"
Smith: "Well ... that's where my claim falls to the ground. Y'see I was hoping you wouldn't bring up that particular point but now I can see you're more than a match for me"
Emcee: "Our next contestant ... "
Smith: "I was right"

[Benjamin Grimm]

Lino Urdaneta is number 810.

And Del Unser finally has some company: http://www.leaptoad.com/mets/roster.php#U

[Guest Edgy DC]

And his ERA has been lowered from to 81.00.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Carlos Gomez is number 811 and Jason Vargas is number 812. (That's the area code for Southern Indiana, by the way.)

[Guest Edgy DC]

"Southern Indana" nickname for Vargas.

And we can call Gomez "Police Non-Emergency."

[Guest Edgy DC]

Number 813!

[Guest cooby]

That's a nice picture. He looks happy to be here!

[Willets Point]

It's not a very good picture of the Count though.

[Benjamin Grimm]

How is it possible to photograph the Count, anyway?

[Guest Edgy DC]

Not all counts are vampires.

Even those with Rumanian accents and live in castles with bats may not be.

Fangs can happen!

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

I read to day that the Blue Jays had their 500th player appear today.

Toronto is 15 years younger than the Mets, yet they're only 313 players behind us.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Yeah but we've had 559 players to their ~500 in our common history.

[Frayed Knot]

When we were as old as the Jays are now - two months into season 21 - we had 466 different players (acc to GWreck's list).

Or, to put it another way, our #500 didn't come until opening week of season 23 (April 1994)