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6-0 Tiggers on Granderson's home run :)


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This, and Cards/Pads CLEARLY debunks the "Team that is hotter at the end of the season generally does better than team that has it wrapped up by early September" line of thinking!

Well Mets/Dodgers as well, but the Mets did hit the postseason on a 4 game win streak.


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Valadius wrote:
Oh great, Johnny. THANK YOU for bringing it up.


?

Let's just watch Kenny deal.


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I don't see why some fans choose to blame that Game 6 loss on Rogers any more than Franco, who blew a lead; Benitez, who blew a lead; or Lieter, who couldn't get out of the first inning AND made a stupid error. And not sure why a bases-loaded walk is any worse a crime than a leadoff double to Gerald Williams, who could have and would have scored on almost any other outcome too. Sure it was a painful, sucky end to a great game but it was, like most wins and losses, a team thing.


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Johnny Dickshot wrote:
I don't see why some fans choose to blame that Game 6 loss on Rogers any more than Franco, who blew a lead; Benitez, who blew a lead; or Lieter, who couldn't get out of the first inning AND made a stupid error. And not sure why a bases-loaded walk is any worse a crime than a leadoff double to Gerald Williams, who could have and would have scored on almost any other outcome too. Sure it was a painful, sucky end to a great game but it was, like most wins and losses, a team thing.


I think its a combination of:

-Remembrances of his performance as a MFY

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-Just need one guy to blame that was definatly not coming back in 2000

The guy was brought in to do what Mike Hampton did the next year, be "The Guy" and since he wasn't going to be coming back Met fans felt just in blaming the loss on him.

I agree, its actually worse than the Buckner blame based on the other pitching culprits during that particular game


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Well of course he's a scapegoat.

But as detailed above his crime as a Yankee was having 1 harmless no-decision (the Yankees won) in the 96 ALDS, followed by an off-year, and still brought back TRue Yankee ® Scott Brosius in a trade.


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Valadius wrote:
Did I just see that right? Someone held up a sign saying "Billy Crystal Sucks".


That's great.


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Nymr83 wrote:
]For the Mets he had a bad inning in releif and was the best pitcher down the stretch for a good team that barely made the playoffs. Since then he's pitched pretty well in a ridiculous park in Texas, had a CY contender year for a surprise playoff team, and been one of the few active players to speak out against steriods.

He's OK with me and has been.


if he had given up a single to Andruw Jones then yeah, i'd be over it. but to lose a playoff series by throwing 4 straight balls? sorry, you SUCK. you should lob it over the plate like its batting practice before you walk in the game-ending run


Well, it was a 3-1 pitch so he did get one strike across.

The Mets tied the game in the 15th the night before on a bases-loaded walk to their backup catcher. Rogers pitched two innings the night before.

It's hard.


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2 down, one to go, I wonder what all the people who spent the last few weeks saying the Yankees were going to waltz and the Mets were going quietly are thinking now.

Tomorrow could be a really, really great day.

The "strike" Rogers threw (to Andruw Jones) was a very generous call by the ump, but that walk just felt like abject failure to me at the time. JD makes some perfectly valid points, to be fair, but Rogers will need to implode against the Mets in the Series before I forgive him fully.


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I'm still laughing about the sign.

See that Rogers interview? He WAS motivated by revenge. That game was Jack Morris-y.


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smg58 wrote:
2 down, one to go, I wonder what all the people who spent the last few weeks saying the Yankees were going to waltz and the Mets were going quietly are thinking now.

Tomorrow could be a really, really great day.


I just like the fact that you'll start hearing more ARod bashing, despite the fact that the ENTIRE Yankee offense did nothing.

Come to think of it, I LOVE the fact that this high powered Yankee offense, considered "The Greatest Lineup EVER!" has now scored 3 runs in the last two games!

Loved Morgan's BRM defense for the 72 power outage as being "Well, we weren't The Big Red Machine yet." Sure Joe, keep believing that. Jon Matlack is on line 2 BTW to remind you about the next October

BTW, I could have sworn Morgan HATES the Yanks because he's forever defending that 70's Reds teams as the Greatest Of All Time


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