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dinosaur jesus wrote:
I just did some research on the most dangerous lineup ever. They are the 51st-highest-scoring team in American League history, 16th-best in the last thirteen years. In runs scored per game against league average (a much better criterion), they are 61st (a four-way tie). In the last fifty years, 19th (a two-way tie). In the last twenty years, 12th (a two-way tie). In the last ten, 8th. In the last five, 4th. In the last two, 2nd. So there you have it: the 2006 Yankees are the most awesome group of sluggers ever assembled. Since the 2005 Red Sox.


good work, dino


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metsmarathon wrote:
please. it doesnt take a steinbrenner to notice that torre can't get that team to play for him when the chips are down.
I'm not sure any manager could have gotten this team to play for him. There was a story in some paper or another where it said that in August Johnny Damon noticed how listlessly the Yankees were playing and tried to rally his teammates into waking up. He was met with cold stares and indifference to the point of where he asked a team official whether he had done something wrong. He did something right, but that his teammates weren't interested in playing with anymore enthusiasm, interest, energy, or effort, is an indication the problem rests with the players, imo.


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Johnny Dickshot wrote:
Nice Carnac.

There's the Bobby Abreu we all know and love, tentatively approaching a catchable fly ball for a single. I'm xcited about the Tigers chances tonight.


I'd like to nominate this moment, from Page 13 of this thread, as the Foxwoods Resort & Casino Turning Point of the series.

The remark was in reaction to Abreu moseying toward, and stopping short of, a soft fly ball by Carlos Guillen leading off the Tigers 2nd inning when the game was 0-0. Seemed relatively harmless at the time but started a 3-run rally that gave Rogers something to fight to protect, and the rout was on.

Now those of us Met fans who watched Abreu over the years knew that his addition to the MFYs was going to be huge boost offensively -- stick him in that line-up, let him reach base like he knows how and suddenly they're scoring 2 runs more a night -- and we knew the Phillies seemingly got nothing for him since the MFYs recklessly jack the payroll whenever something looks bad (Cashman is OK in my book but a lying sack of shit when he discusses the budget).

Anyway, we also knew that in Abreu the MFYs were getting probably the most blase and aloof superstar this side of Barry Bonds, and could only hope that his habit of turning his engine off from time to time, particularly on defense, would come at just the right moment.

Well it did and this was it. Abreu would go on to nonchalant one more play that I recall in this series, pulling up to let a foul ball near the wall drop, but I don't recall if it was costly. Meantime, his offense went into hibernation (his power deserted him more than a year ago) and, maybe this is just me, enveloped the whole team the same way the Phillies also seemed to play stupider and worse than their talent would lead you to believe (note how they caught fire the minute this fat, happy lazybones left the squad... and finally, we can thank them for not unloading him 2 weeks earlier or they might have caught us in the standings.

And so Cashman, at last, thank you. And Bobby, thank you. And good luck playing under Lou!


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I think Harper actually makes a case there.


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For the first time in a while, I had the chance to listen to talk radio this weekend. We beat up on Mad Dog alot, but he was excellent on Saturday morning.

He was talking about the Tigers/MFY Game 3. By the time I tuned in, I guess someone had said Kenny Rogers would be old news by Game 4 and that as long as the Yankees won, no one would care or remember. Russo was great, he said something along the lines of (I'm paraphrasing):

You're right. At 4:10 this afternoon, you won't be thinking about Kenny Rogers. It'll be the dawn of a new day. You'll have your TV on, they'll be giving you the lineups and you'll smile when you hear those great names. Jeter, Giambi, Abreu...you'll have your drink ready, you'll be all set to go. The Yankee fan will be happy at 4 o'clock.

At 8 o'clock, it'll be a different story. When A-Rod taps out to second base to end the game, and the Tigers are celebrating, and the Yankees will be hanging their heads in the dugout. At 8 o'clock, the Yankee fan is going to be miserable. Wondering how it all went wrong. You're gonna be angry. You're gonna snap at your wife. Not gonna want to see your kids even though you know it's wrong. You're gonna want to take this whole team apart. Fire Torre, trade A-Rod. You don't want to be a Yankee fan at 8 o'clock.

But what are you going to do? It's 8 o'clock. You can't go to bed. You can't just shut off the TV and fall asleep. Your wife is going to want to go out. Maybe watch a movie. Meet some friends. But you're not going to be in the mood to do that. There's no football on. Certainly don't want to watch the Mets. No, the Yankee fan at 8 o'clock will have no choice but to watch the celebration. Watch every Tiger spill champagne. Watch them talk about how they never gave up even after losing Game 1. The Yankee fan will have no choice but to watch every last interview. That's what the Yankee fans has to look forward to today. Happy at 4, miserable at 8.


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Edgy DC wrote:
cleonjones11 will be so disappointed.


Has anybody heard from Cleon lately?


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ABG wrote:
They were missing Matsui and Sheffield most of the year and only got Abreu at the deadline. The hyperbole has obviously been based on what they put on the field in the playoffs, not their numbers over the course of the season.


Yes, but the hype had as much to do with what these guys have done in the past than the present. Sheffield was rusty, and like a lot of the Yankees, is past his peak. Matsui probably as well. Abreu is not the hitter he was a few years ago. Giambi played hurt. Maybe Cano isn't really a .340 hitter. And maybe hitters with gaudy numbers can be neutralized by good pitching, you know kind of like the Yankees always did when they won playoff series in the increasingly distant past.

Maybe the Tigers, who had a better record than the Yankees pretty much all year until after they clinched a playoff spot, were actually the better team.

If Torre is guilty of anything, it's that he couldn't overcome a team-wide arrogance that the media kept reinforcing. So now the media wants him to go. I'm enjoying this a lot.


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="Edgy DC"]cleonjones11 will be so disappointed.


Has anybody heard from Cleon lately?

He'll check back in if bad news on Floyd comes down.


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Centerfield wrote:
It's Jeter's fault.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/story/459941p-386970c.html


I think this point of view has a lot of merit. I wonder if this means that Jeter might not be as good as MJ?


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Abreu's pullup at the wall was in the last game, ast the Tigs were pulling away. When the Yanks needed somebody to show some fire and spearhead the comeback, as outs were getting precious because the Yanks were digging deeper into a relatively shaloow pen, Abreu took a pass.

Even lamer because the fans were gracous enough to get out of the way and give him room to play it.

On edit: Oh, yeah, trade Jeter NOW!!!!


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Caple makes some good points and has some really funny lines too.


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