Lets see, I guess now its time for Postseason Roster Thread!

[MFS62]

duan wrote: And he certainly out hits Mike Defelice.

So does most of the World's population.

Later

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Except for Anderson Hernandez.

I hope there's no chance in hell that AHernandez and DiFelice are both on the postseason roster.

[Guest ABG]

I'd think Hernandez has some significant possible roster value--PR/late inning def sub.

[metirish]

I don't know that I would lift Valentin for defence ,he's doing fine with it but I know what you mean ABG.

[Frayed Knot]

Eddie Coleman mentioned something on the radio which I either didn't know or had forgotten (I think it may be a fairly new rule):
-- that, while you can do an injury substitution thing in making your post-season roster, you can only sub a pitcher for a pitcher or a position player for a position player.

Ergo, bringing Anderson Hernandez up now (and paper demoting Dave Williams) may only be a way of "balancing" the pitcher/player ration and assuring themselves of roster flexibility later on and not necc a sign that Andy Handy is their man.

[Guest OlerudOwned]

David Wells has been pulled from his start today and told to clear out his stuff.

It's probably the Padres, but there's going to be a press conference soon. And you never know with Omar.

Sidenote: To take over for Wells, Boston's starter tonight is Julian Tavarez. Ouch.

[Willets Point]

God forbid.

[Guest sharpie]

]To take over for Wells, Boston's starter tonight is Julian Tavarez.

I guess the Bosox have a "designated jerk" spot in their rotation.

[Guest vtmet]

OlerudOwned wrote: David Wells has been pulled from his start today and told to clear out his stuff. It's probably the Padres, but there's going to be a press conference soon. And you never know with Omar. Sidenote: To take over for Wells, Boston's starter tonight is Julian Tavarez. Ouch.

Hopefully it is to the Pad's...since supposedly, rumor had it that Boston Radio had said that Wells/Loretta were getting traded to the Mets for Phillip Humber (the pitcher guy, not the catcher that he traded for Kristin Benson)...that would have been a huge waste, Humber is one of the best pitchers in the Mets organization for a old, fat, slow pitch beer-leaguer and a 2nd baseman that we don't need...

[Guest OlerudOwned]

vtmet wrote: ="OlerudOwned"]David Wells has been pulled from his start today and told to clear out his stuff. It's probably the Padres, but there's going to be a press conference soon. And you never know with Omar. Sidenote: To take over for Wells, Boston's starter tonight is Julian Tavarez. Ouch. Hopefully it is to the Pad's...since supposedly, rumor had it that Boston Radio had said that Wells/Loretta were getting traded to the Mets for Phillip Humber (the pitcher guy, not the catcher that he traded for Kristin Benson)...that would have been a huge waste, Humber is one of the best pitchers in the Mets organization for a old, fat, slow pitch beer-leaguer and a 2nd baseman that we don't need...

Was that actually a rumor or was it just one of the jocks serving up WATPs? Because I don't see Minaya giving up one of the top pitchers in a still-thin system for The Blob and an unneeded replacement for Valentin.

[Guest vtmet]

I didn't actually hear it...just heard about it...probably some radio guy with the same lack of insider knowledge as Mike and the Mad Dog just spouting his mouth trying to take Peter Gammons role...probably thought that Jim Duquette was still Mets gm...

[Guest vtmet]

Mets make it official that Anderson Hernandez was the guy called up to add to the roster in time, with the official press release from mets.com:

]MLB Official Info Press Release 08/31/2006 5:17 PM ET Mets recall infielder Anderson Hernandez; Option left-handed pitcher Dave Williams The New York Mets today recalled infielder Anderson Hernandez from Norfolk (AAA) of the International League and optioned lefthanded pitcher Dave Williams to the Tides. Hernandez will wear uniform #1 and will be available for tonight's game against the Rockies at Colorado.

http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20060831&content_id=1638877&vkey=pr_nym&fext=.jsp&c_id=nym

[Guest vtmet]

I don't know how to shorten that longass URL....

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

And remember, in the unlikely event that Anderson Hernandez does anything to earn himself some Schaefer points, he's AHernandez.

[Guest vtmet]

Lefty pitcher going tonight, and WIllie has been hesitant on playing Valentin a few games in a row since his hammy injury...so I wouldn't be too surprised to see AHern get a start tonight...

[MFS62]

vtmet wrote: Lefty pitcher going tonight, and WIllie has been hesitant on playing Valentin a few games in a row since his hammy injury...so I wouldn't be too surprised to see AHern get a start tonight...

]Anderson Hernandez-2B-Mets Aug. 31 - 5:52 pm et Mets recalled infielder Anderson Hernandez from Triple-A Norfolk. Hernandez hit just .249/.285/.295 in 414 at-bats for Norfolk, a line that should keep him out of the mix for a job as a regular second baseman next year. He's probably not ever going to have the bat to play anywhere other than shortstop, so the Mets could trade him this winter. He won't have any fantasy value while serving as a reserve.

Is hitting from the right side his better side?
With those numbers he might not have a better side.

And, no fantasy value?
It seems he has no reality value, either.

BA DA BUM!

LAter

[Guest OlerudOwned]

Just to update, The Blob was dealt to San Diego.

[Guest cooby]

WHy does Anderson Hernandez sound familiar? Weren't we all high on him earlier this year and then he got hurt or something?

[metirish]

Anderson has a great glove Cooby,remember this catch?

[Guest cooby]

Yep

He was on my team for a while; maybe I should get him back if Valentin is never going to play again

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

I'll never get tired of watching that catch. Holy crap, what a great effort.

[Guest vtmet]

MFS62 wrote: ="vtmet"]Lefty pitcher going tonight, and WIllie has been hesitant on playing Valentin a few games in a row since his hammy injury...so I wouldn't be too surprised to see AHern get a start tonight... ]Anderson Hernandez-2B-Mets Aug. 31 - 5:52 pm et Mets recalled infielder Anderson Hernandez from Triple-A Norfolk. Hernandez hit just .249/.285/.295 in 414 at-bats for Norfolk, a line that should keep him out of the mix for a job as a regular second baseman next year. He's probably not ever going to have the bat to play anywhere other than shortstop, so the Mets could trade him this winter. He won't have any fantasy value while serving as a reserve. Is hitting from the right side his better side? With those numbers he might not have a better side. And, no fantasy value? It seems he has no reality value, either. BA DA BUM! LAter

It's the side that he has a chance at getting a hit from...
He batted .293 as a RH hitter at AAA (and much lower lefty)...and he was 3 for 11 batting RH'd for the Mets...

Plus it's Valentin's weaker side...

[MFS62]

Thanks, then it makes some sort of sense.

Later

[Willets Point]

Thank the heavens, Wells was sent to San Diego. Maybe we can beat his fat ass in the NLDS.

[stevejrogers]

Yup. I'd rather have Asshead Clemens than Wells Clemens will at least do something nutty if he doesn't have it, and stay in the game. Wells is liable to quit right there in mid game!

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

From Ben Shpigel's article in the New York Times:

]Though Williams is scheduled to start Tuesday against the Braves, the Mets optioned him to Class AAA Norfolk after the game Wednesday, a move that manipulated their roster for postseason flexibility. Anderson Hern�ndez took Williams�s place on the roster. The addition of Hern�ndez returned the Mets to their normal 13 position players. Because that pool includes the injured Ram�n Castro and Cliff Floyd, they can use 15 position players in a playoff series. The Mets would need only four starters, and six or seven relievers, in a series, magnifying the importance of having a deep bench. When determining playoff rosters, teams can replace position players only with position players and pitchers only with pitchers, as long as those players were in the organization as of midnight Thursday. For example, Lastings Milledge will be eligible to replace Floyd or Castro if neither is ready for October. Because the Mets have three pitchers on the 60-day disabled list � Duaner S�nchez, V�ctor Zambrano and Juan Padilla � and because they will not pitch again this season, any of them can be replaced with a pitcher in the minors. The most likely candidates are starters Williams, Mike Pelfrey and Brian Bannister, and relievers Heath Bell and Royce Ring. But because the Mets already have a full pitching contingent, the only way any of them would pitch in the playoffs would be if another pitcher were injured. Manager Willie Randolph dismissed the notion of Williams, the team�s most reliable left-handed pitcher after Tom Glavine, helping in the playoffs. He cited Williams�s limited experience in the bullpen, the most likely place where an opening would occur. Williams would not receive a start ahead of any of the regular starters. Rosters can expand to 40 players Friday. Randolph said the Mets would soon recall Bell or Ring � or both. They will also promote catcher Kelly Stinnett, who was signed to a minor league contract last week. Stinnett could be auditioning for the backup spot if the Mets determine that Castro (left knee) will not be ready Sept. 25, when he becomes eligible to come off the 60-day disabled list. Mike DiFelice is an adequate defender, but he is batting .071 (1 for 14). Stinnett provides a little bit more offense, though not much, having batted .228 in 34 games for the Yankees.

So Stinnett, or even Alfonzo, could still be on the postseason roster even though they weren't promoted by August 31.

And it also sounds like the Mets will have to carry at least 10 pitchers. (I never expected that they would carry fewer than ten anyway.)

[Guest Edgy DC]

]Yup. I'd rather have Asshead Clemens than Wells Clemens will at least do something nutty if he doesn't have it, and stay in the game. Wells is liable to quit right there in mid game!

I'm going to disagree.

[stevejrogers]

Edgy DC wrote: ]Yup. I'd rather have Asshead Clemens than Wells Clemens will at least do something nutty if he doesn't have it, and stay in the game. Wells is liable to quit right there in mid game! I'm going to disagree.

On all counts? Unless you can say that getting ejected in 1990 (IIR the correct year) early in at ALCS game was on purpose and are taking McNamara's side on the 1986 Game 6 issue, I don't see any examples such as Wells' last postseason game.

Clemens may be a roid rager, but he ain't a quitter

[Gwreck]

Yancy Street Gang wrote: So Stinnett, or even Alfonzo, could still be on the postseason roster even though they weren't promoted by August.

Extremely unlikely that Fonzie will be there.

="Adam Rubin's Blog"] All indications are Edgardo Alfonzo will not join the Mets. It would've been a nice story, but do you really want to risk losing someone like Henry Owens or Matt Lindstrom off waivers to make 40-man roster room for a nice story?

[Gwreck]

Bumping this one back up now that it's not exactly premature.

LOCKS
Starting Pitchers
1. Pedro Martinez
2. Tom Glavine
3. Orlando Hernandez

Relief Pitchers
4. Billy Wagner
5. Aaron Heilman
6. Guillermo Mota
7. Chad Bradford
8. Pedro Feliciano
9. Darren Oliver

Catchers
10. Paul LoDuca

Infielders
11. Carlos Delgado
12. Jose Valentin
13. David Wright
14. Jose Reyes
15. Julio Franco
16. Chris Woodward

Outfielders
17. Carlos Beltran
18. Shawn Green
19. Endy Chavez

SPOTS TO BE FILLED

Backup Catcher
20. Ramon Castro, if healthy

Mike DeFelice's .080 (2 for 25), with 10 Ks and 5 walks speaks for itself. He's 1-for-9 in throwing runners out and has 2 Errors in 75 Chances.

Kelly Stinnett has been equally awful with the Mets (1 for 12), but he's 3-for-6 throwing runners out, 1 error in 41 chances. Stinnett's stats as the Yankee backup weren't quite so horrible (.228 in 79 ABs, 5 for 25 throwing runners out, 2 errors in 181 chances). He figures to have the slight edge in the event Castro can't go.

Fourth Outfielder
21. Cliff Floyd

Even despite the crappy numbers Floyd has posted in September, there doesn't appear to be a situation in which Floyd won't be on the roster. Among the remaining options (Milledge, Tucker, Ledee) he's at worst #2 defensively and still the best power threat. Chris Woodward can also play left and right without embarassing himself, hence fifth+ outfielders being moved to later discussion.

Fourth Starter
22. ???

I think Trachsel's got the edge, based on seniority and what an inability (and/or unwillingness) to pitch relief innings.

Trying to get through the first round of the playoffs without a fourth starter would require the starter of the second game to pitch the fifth game on three days rest. Given the age of the pitching staff, there's no pitcher who should be doing that.

FILLING OUT THE ROSTER
23. Roberto Hernandez

Roberto Hernandez' spot would've been a lock if not for the emergence of Mota. (Fun Mota fact: he's allowed exactly two runs as a Met this year. Solo homers by Alfonso Soriano and Ryan Howard.) That being said, Hernandez still looks to get a spot given the need for relief pitching created by starters only going 5-6 innings per game.

John Maine could theoretically be considered for this spot, as a "second long man."

24. Lastings Milledge
25. Michael Tucker

At least one more hitter is needed for the bench.

Michael Tucker, Lastings Milledge (and Ricky Ledee) are in contention for at least one spot on the roster. Ledee (3 for 29 with the Mets) is clearly the #3 choice.

Milledge provides a power threat and is the fastest of the three players. He's been hitting more too, raising his average and has been striking out less. He looks to be in over Tucker.

Spot #25 brings back the 11 -or - 12 pitchers question. Given the short series, it seems to make more sense to have the extra bat. That spot may go to John Maine for a 12th pitcher in the LCS, assuming of course the Mets are playing in that round.