Lets see, I guess now its time for Postseason Roster Thread!

[Guest OlerudOwned]

The Mets seem to have a glut of all defense-no bat catchers.

[Guest Edgy DC]

For some reason, both Ledee and Diaz were DFA'd when they acquired Green, so two slots opened.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

I think Diaz left for Mota, and Ledee for Green.

[MFS62]

="OlerudOwned"]The Mets seem to have a glut of all defense-no bat catchers.

Maybe we should consider having a Choo Choo Coleman Memorial Roster Spot. (For "good low ball catcher(s)", as Stengel called him)

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[Frayed Knot]

All defense/no-bat backup catchers is basicaly the definition of backup catchers.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

I can think of exceptions: Todd Pratt, Ramon Castro, Mackey Sasser, Barry Lyons.

[MFS62]

... Smokey Burgess, Johnny Blanchard, Elston Howard (backed up Yogi for years)...

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[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Edgy DC wrote: For some reason, both Ledee and Diaz were DFA'd when they acquired Green, so two slots opened.

Diaz had to moved from the 40 when the Green deal was complete, but they let Ledee stick around for a day while Green was in transit: It was Ledee's spot on the 25 Green took.

Looks like Dave Williams is going down for Anderson Hernandez, but he's not Norfolked up the ass: He'll be back to start vs. the Braves next week, so we have an xtra infielder this weekend.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

This doesn't mean that Williams can't be on the playoff roster, does it? I suspect that they can always use the DL spots of Zambrano and Sanchez to get him onto the postseason roster if that's what they want.

How many pitchers do we figure the Mets will carry into October? Hopefully not more than eleven.

[Guest Hillbilly]

Metsblog has nice review of the backup infield situation as it relates to Fonz and post-season roster gymnastics. It�s hard not to let sentimental considerations cloud my judgment when we�re talking about one of my all time favorite Mets. How exciting would it be if he came off the bench and won a game with a 1999 like signature 12 pitch at bat?

[Guest Edgy DC]

That dream may not work out, realistically, but I'd sure like to get him on the roster today, in time to keep the dream alive. If he doesn't hit while he's up here, and there's no room for him on the post-season roster, so be it. We could use him to spell Wright under any circumstances.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Pitchers on the postseason roster
To follow up on my question about the number of pitchers on a postseason roster, I looked back to the Mets' four most recent postseasons.

Two of them, admittedly, were in a different era.

In 1986, the Mets carried 9 pitchers into October: Aguilera, Darling, Fernandez, Gooden, McDowell, Niemann, Ojeda, Orosco, and Sisk.
(Niemann never got into a game in either the NLCS or the World Series. But I do remember that he was on the roster.)

I'm a little fuzzy about the 1988 roster. Eight pitchers saw action: Aguilera, Cone, Darling, Fernandez, Gooden, Leach, McDowell, and Myers.

I imagine that there were at least nine pitchers available, though, and possibly ten. The two most likely candidates are McClure and Nu�ez. So unless anyone remembers otherwise, for 1988 will have to say it was between 8 and 10 pitchers.

I think that the Mets used all available players in the 1999 and 2000 postseasons. If that's the case, they had 11 pitchers in 1999 (Benitez, Cook, Dotel, Franco, Hershiser, Leiter, Mahomes, Reed, Rogers, Wendell, and Yoshii) and 10 in 2000 (Benitez, Cook, Franco, Hampton, Jones, Leiter, Reed, Rusch, Wendell, and White.)

I think I'd like them to go with 10 this year. I guess I can accept 11, but I wouldn't put it past them to go with 12, which I think is excessive.

Here are the 10 I'd choose, assuming everyone's healthy on October 3:
Martinez, Glavine, Orlando Hernandez, Trachsel, Maine, Wagner, Heilman, Feliciano, and Oliver. That makes nine. For the tenth I'd choose Roberto Hernandez or Mota. And if they go with 11, I'd choose both of them.

[metirish]

Met.com has this ...

] Dave Williams (4-3) pitched seven solid innings to get the victory, contributed two hits and two walks to the Mets' 20-baserunner night, and his reward was a trip back to Triple-A Norfolk. The move is a procedural one -- Williams will be recalled with Friday's roster expansion to pitch for the Mets on Tuesday night against Atlanta. In the meantime, an infielder -- almost certainly veteran Edgardo Alfonzo -- will be recalled on Thursday, in time to be eligible for the postseason roster. Another reason for adding an infielder capable of playing third base is the sore right thumb Wright had wrapped after the game, the result of getting jammed a lot lately, he said.

So will Fonzie get a call along with Hernandez?

[seawolf17]

I don't see any reason to take more than eleven pitchers to the postseason. You only need four starters, and you'll have two long men (Maine & Oliver). I don't see Williams making the cut.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

"Almost certainly" Edgardo Alfonzo?

Wow. That's a 180� turnaround from what we've been hearing.

Me, I'd much rather have Fonzie than Anderson Hernandez on the roster, both for practical as well as sentimental reasons.

Fonzie can hit. Maybe not as well as he used to, but certainly more than Anderson Hernandez can. Andy would be a better pinch runner, and probably a better defensive replacement. But I'd rather have the guy with the bat.

Still nothing about Kelly Stinnett, though, huh?

[metirish]

The beat writer for the Times is saying either Fonzie,Hernandez or Ruben Gotay will get promoted.

[Guest vtmet]

metirish wrote: The beat writer for the Times is saying either Fonzie,Hernandez or Ruben Gotay will get promoted.

IMO, Hernandez as the one to make the playoff roster...but Fonzie could very well be added when the rosters expand to give Wright a breather...

[Guest vtmet]

="metirish"]Met.com has this ... ] Dave Williams (4-3) pitched seven solid innings to get the victory, contributed two hits and two walks to the Mets' 20-baserunner night, and his reward was a trip back to Triple-A Norfolk. The move is a procedural one -- Williams will be recalled with Friday's roster expansion to pitch for the Mets on Tuesday night against Atlanta. In the meantime, an infielder -- almost certainly veteran Edgardo Alfonzo -- will be recalled on Thursday, in time to be eligible for the postseason roster. Another reason for adding an infielder capable of playing third base is the sore right thumb Wright had wrapped after the game, the result of getting jammed a lot lately, he said. So will Fonzie get a call along with Hernandez?

Is Mets.com contradicting itself? Here's what I just read at Mets.com:

]The move is a procedural one -- Williams will be recalled with Friday's roster expansion to pitch for the Mets on Tuesday night against Atlanta. In the meantime, an infielder -- likely veteran Anderson Hernandez -- will be recalled on Thursday, in time to be eligible for the postseason roster. Another reason for adding an infielder capable of playing third base is the sore right thumb Wright had wrapped after the game, the result of getting jammed a lot lately, he said.

http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/gameday_recap.jsp?ymd=20060830&content_id=1637145&vkey=recap&fext=.jsp&c_id=nym

[Guest Edgy DC]

They're editing on the fly, having just punched Hernandez in for Alfonzo. They wouldn't have otherwise referred to Hernandez as a veteran.

[Guest ABG]

Is this right?

From our friend Adam Rubin's blog.

] Here�s the reason the Mets needed to add Anderson Hernandez, or some position player, to the roster before Sept. 1 - at least according to Mets officials. Let�s say the Mets wanted to call up Lastings Milledge, or any other position player, from the minor-league system in September and then later use him in the playoffs. Milledge could only replace a position player who was on the roster as of Aug. 31 - not a pitcher. So Milledge could be subbed for Hernandez, but not Dave Williams. Because Tom Glavine had never gone on the disabled list, the Mets had only four bench players with a 13-man pitching staff. Hernandez will be with the Mets today, according to Triple-A Norfolk�s Web site. * * *

Why would it make a difference if Milledge was added for a pitcher or a position player? I've never heard of MLB drawing such a distinction when it comes to roster sizes and whatnot.

[metirish]

It's all rather confusing to meat this point.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

I hate confused meat.

We need to clear this up!

[metirish]

LOL.....as you can see I 'm very confused.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

I left Bradford off of my list above. I'd take Bradford into the playoffs before I would Oliver.

[Guest vtmet]

that supposedly is part of the DL clause in Rule 40(a):
that if a pitcher on the post season roster is DL'd, only a pitcher can replace him;
and if a position player on the post season roster is DL'd, only a position player can replace him;

[seawolf17]

You have to keep Oliver. He's your long man.

And it's either Bert or Mota, not both.

[metirish]

Mota.

[Guest vtmet]

seawolf17 wrote: You have to keep Oliver. He's your long man. And it's either Bert or Mota, not both.

Mota has faced 20 batters as a Met, striking out 9 of the 20...only allowing 2 of them to reach base, only 1 scored...with the absense of Duaner Sanchez, IMO, he's a given...

[duan]

the fact that Darren Oliver can really hit, helps his post-season roster cause immeasurably.

I mean, he's not far off being as dangerous as chris woodward. And he certainly out hits Mike Defelice.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

And that's why I want Kelly Stinnett promoted today. If Castro's not ready, I don't want DiFelice to be Plan B.