Do the Braves really matter any more?

[Guest old original jb]

Actually, I think they have a potential nucleus in McAnn, DeRoche, Giles, and Franceur, but they don't have a bullpen and the rest hasn 't really come together yet.

So at 15 back, I'm ready to count them out for this season, and with a sweep by the Mets at Turner, I think the Mets are pretty much over whatever Braves complex they had in the past.

With all that said, do we continue to experience triple happiness when the Braves and Yankees lose while the Mets win? Or does a new team take Atlanta's place? Or are we consigned to having only double happiness? Does life become less meaningful after you've slain your dragon?

[metirish]

I would never count them out as long as John Schuerholz is the GM and Bobby Cox is the coach.

[Frayed Knot]

"Do the Braves really matter any more?"

This year? - probably not for the division after this weekend, although they could still win the WC and meet up with us in the 2nd round playoff.



"Actually, I think they have a potential nucleus in McAnn, DeRoche, Giles, and Franceur,"

Well, you spelled Giles correctly at least.



"... with a sweep by the Mets at Turner, I think the Mets are pretty much over whatever Braves complex they had in the past."

I never bought the "complex" thing; we simply weren't as good a team for these last number of years.



"With all that said, do we continue to experience triple happiness when the Braves and Yankees lose while the Mets win? Or does a new team take Atlanta's place? Or are we consigned to having only double happiness?"]

We've been through this before rookie, TH remains unchanged throughout the year or at least until one or both of the other participants is removed from a division win. Any changes for the future will be subject to review prior to next season.



"Does life become less meaningful after you've slain your dragon?"

Hell no!!!!

[stevejrogers]

old original jb wrote: Does life become less meaningful after you've slain your dragon?

You aren't a Ranger fan are you?

Umm, I'd lean towards the side of all NL East teams will always matter. I've never looked at the Braves any differently than the Phils, Expos/Nats, or Marlins (or Cubs, Cards and Bucs when they were in the East) because it will always be cyclical thing with division teams. One year its the Mets running away with it, the next it could be Phillies and Marlins battling it out, the Braves could return to glory next year, two years or five years from now.

Now granted that means that there would be a septeptual happiness (or whatever the word for 7 good things) so I guess to me there really isn't "Triple Happiness" in the true sense but I'm clearly not going to advocate a thread should the Mets win and the Yanks, Braves, Phils, Marlins and Nats all lose on the same day.

I'd go with the flow here, but to me the Braves very much still matter in a "well, they ARE in our division!" sense, even if we are winning a hundred and they are losing 90, they still are a division rival and must be treated as such.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

They haven't mattered to me since 2001.

[Guest Edgy DC]

We have a job to do here, and that's to end Atlanta's run on the division and claim that title ourselves. Other jobs will follow. That comes first in my mind. And that's being counted down.

We hit them with a hell of a torpedo this weekend. I hope we saved some ammo to similarly damage Florida.

[Zvon]

....ask me again 4:01 tomorrow afternoon.

And like FK says- at playoff time.

[stevejrogers]

Here is another answer, the Orioles were an arch enemy of the MFY during the early Weaver years, kind of like Mets-Braves 1993-1997

Then the Yankees got real good in the late 70's-early 80's just as the Weaver O's were having their swan songs. Both teams struggled during the mid to late 80's (Orioles more than the Yanks) so you could say rivalry is dead.

Then when Angelos puts more money into the team, look who�s back in the playoffs and playing the MFY in the 1996 ALCS, and then in 1997 is the last non-Yankee team to win the division. Rivalry "renewed.� O�s go into a tailspin and it appears that the O�s are no longer on the Yank�s radar.

Now if Mazzone can do his magic, and some key acquisitions are made there is a strong possibility that the O�s can vault right back into the mix in 2007, an renaissance for the Yanks-O�s rivalry? Or for that matter Red Sox-O�s. These divisional rivalries are all cyclical, and that�s why the teams should still matter in the eyes of the fans of a fellow inter-divisional team.

[Guest Giant Squidlike Creature]

The Braves matter for about another week or so.

[Willets Point]

No padnuh, the Braves ah just a fawth place ballclub.

[MFS62]

But I won't be able to bury them until they are officialy dead. I can hardly wait.

Later

[Willets Point]

Not unti the hatchet is buried in them, so to speak?

[MFS62]

Willets Point wrote: Not unti the hatchet is buried in them, so to speak?

We don't need no steenking "so to speak".
I'd prefer it be literal.

Team Ted,
with two Ts
that rhyme with D,
that stands for dead.

Later

[Willets Point]

I was trying to make a pun on the hatchet on their jerseys. I suck.

[MFS62]

Sorry. when I think of the Braves, I tend to get serious.

Later

[Willets Point]

In case anyone didn't notice, the Braves don't matter anymore.