Guest Bret Sabermetric Guests Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 Yep. Chris and Mike just announced it on WFAN.
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 That's amazing. I mean, not that El Duque is what he used to be, or even that good anymore for that matter, but Julio flat out stunk.I wonder if the D-Backs are interested in purchasing my broken VCR I've been meaning to throw away.
Guest OlerudOwned Guests Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 Back problems just pushed back his last start. Great.At least he's better than Lima.But who knows, maybe being in NY will give him a good kick in the ass.
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 Like I said, El Duque is no longer what he was, but considering who have been throwing out there, he is an improvement.And considering what he gave up for him, it's a great deal. I was resigned to an Odalis Perez or Chan Ho Park or some other cumbersome contract. El Duque only adds about $2 million to payroll.I still think we need a #3...but at least no more Jeremi Gonzalez.
Guest OlerudOwned Guests Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 Centerfield wrote:Like I said, El Duque is no longer what he was, but considering who have been throwing out there, he is an improvement.And considering what he gave up for him, it's a great deal. I was resigned to an Odalis Perez or Chan Ho Park or some other cumbersome contract. El Duque only adds about $2 million to payroll.I still think we need a #3...but at least no more Jeremi Gonzalez.I'm not against the trade, not at all. I'm just petrified his back will give out after one start and we're back to square one.
Guest Bret Sabermetric Guests Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 OlerudOwned wrote:I'm just petrified his back will give out after one start and we're back to square one.Gotta roll the dice here, O.O.
Guest Bret Sabermetric Guests Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 sharpie wrote:Can he pitch tomorrow?He can probably go 9 on back-to-back days.In December.When he's hurt.
Guest Johnny Dickshot Guests Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 He's 40 years old and has a bad back. He's Randy Johnson extra lite.
Guest OlerudOwned Guests Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 Johnny Dickshot wrote:He's 40 years old and has a bad back. He's Randy Johnson extra lite.Only 36, lets not roll the guy down the hill just yetEDIT: Nevermind. ESPN.com is full of lies. Lies!
Farmer Ted Old-Timey Member Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 This may be a "Soler needed a Cuban mentor" thing. Nah. Just a weird trade.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 Jesus Christ, trade a 27 year old with a great arm for a 40 year old with a bad back.....
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 A "challenge" trade, maybe? I don't know if I like it or not.
Guest ScarletKnight41 Guests Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 I never had a great deal of confidence in Julio, but I don't have much confidence in El Duque either.I find the timing funny, since I just finished Mike Lupica's book Heat, which featured a character who is unquestionably based on El Duque. Hopefully it's positive Karma.
patchyfogg Old-Timey Member Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 Now we get to read Yankees shills in the media writing about his fondness for the New York nightlife and how his eyes remain fixed across town.
Guest abogdan Guests Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 Great deal. A potential third starter for the team's fourth or fifth best bullpen arm. No idea why Arizona would do this other than saving a couple of million. I don't love El Duque, but he's an upgrade from Gonzalez/Lima/et al. Hopefully moving to Shea will reduce his homers allowed.
Guest Bret Sabermetric Guests Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 That's why it's briliant. Also because the guy is a innings eating machine, which this team needs like it needs oxygen. I think he had more complete games for Washington than the Mets own jockstraps.
Guest OlerudOwned Guests Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 Damn, I just realized how insane Hernandez's splits are.vs. RHB25 IP, 17 H, 8 ER (2.88 ERA), 37 K, 12 BBvs. LHB20.2 IP, 35 H, 23 ER (10.02 ERA), 15 K, 8 BBin Arizona (a hitters park)0-3, 28.2 IP, 37 H, 26 ER (8.16 ERA), 31 K, 16 BBOn the Road2-1, 17 IP, 15 H, 5 ER (2.65 ERA), 21 K, 4 BB
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 Bret Sabermetric wrote:That's why it's briliant. Also because the guy is a innings eating machine, which this team needs like it needs oxygen. I think he had more complete games for Washington than the Mets own jockstraps.Wrong Hernandez. You're thinking of Livan.
Guest Hillbilly Guests Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 This was done solely to prevent Heilman from starting.The Duke battery is coming to Shea. I didn�t see this one coming�
Guest Bret Sabermetric Guests Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 seawolf17 wrote:="Bret Sabermetric"]That's why it's briliant. Also because the guy is a innings eating machine, which this team needs like it needs oxygen. I think he had more complete games for Washington than the Mets own jockstraps.Wrong Hernandez. You're thinking of Livan.God damn it. Okay, maybe it's not so brilliant.Also, maybe I'm not so brilliant.God damn it.
Elster88 Old-Timey Member Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 El Duque eats innings too, no?I figure if we're going to lose 10-5 on the fifth starter's day, let El Duque throw 180 pitches instead of letting Lima throw 75 and using the entire bullpen.
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 Elster88 wrote:El Duque eats innings too, no?I figure if we're going to lose 10-5 on the fifth starter's day, let El Duque throw 180 pitches instead of letting Lima throw 75 and using the entire bullpen.Hard to eat innings when you're giving up nine runs every time out.
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 I just realized this gives my fantasy team five Mets starters (Duque, Bannister, Zambrano, Soler, and Maine). Weird.
Guest OlerudOwned Guests Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 seawolf17 wrote:I just realized this gives my fantasy team five Mets starters (Duque, Bannister, Zambrano, Soler, and Maine). Weird.I'd hope for your sake that Bannister, Zambo, and Maine arent on the active roster.
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted May 24, 2006 Posted May 24, 2006 OlerudOwned wrote:="seawolf17"]I just realized this gives my fantasy team five Mets starters (Duque, Bannister, Zambrano, Soler, and Maine). Weird.I'd hope for your sake that Bannister, Zambo, and Maine arent on the active roster.We have five DL spots, so yeah, they're just hanging out.I apologize for bringing fantasy stuff out of the Fantasy Forum.
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