Pelfrey Countdown

[MFS62]

My kid Henry is currently on the DL with "a slight tear in a forearm tendon" - not considered serious. He was soft tossing yesterday.

Later

[Guest Hillbilly]

Thanks for the update 62.

[Guest Hillbilly]

Bret Sabermetric wrote: ="Hillbilly"]I wonder if there is any thought of putting Heilman in the rotation and bringing up Henry Owen to fill Heilman's role in the pen? Involves a lot of shifting and hoping, but we sure could use the help in the Starting rotation. Owens is still putting up eye-poping numbers. Edit: removed non-link Too stubborn by half. Heilman's a relief pitcher, haven't you heard? To move him into the rotation before 2010 would be to admit they had no clue what they were doing when they trded Benson, traded Seo, or otherwise weakened their rotation by putting Heilman in the pen.

That might be it, or it could be because Owens is hurt.

[Frayed Knot]

]Pelfrey is ready...NOW

The stats on Mr. 'Ready NOW' following his 4th AA start:
4 GS; 21.2 IPs
0-1; 4.15 ERA
30 H; 9 BBs; 2 HBP; 24 Ks
1.80 WHiP

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

Well, by his stats, he appears to be as ready as Lima.

I do agree that the Mets need to be careful not to rush Pelfrey to the majors. Give him some time to develop, he just turned 22 in January.

I would like to see the Mets give Soler a shot when they come to the realization that Lima is done. Soler will turn 27 in October. It's time to see what he can do before he's too old to be considered a prospect.

Speaking of Mets pitching prospects, what is the status of Phillip Humber? I've probably missed this elsewhere on the forum, but what is his status?

[Guest Edgy DC]

Phil, I believe, is doing the extended spring thing and building up arm strength.

[Guest Hillbilly]

http://www.nypost.com/sports/mets/63861.htm

Pretty good piece with examples and quotes from Omar to back up the speculation. The fact that Pelfrey has such a big frame, at least suggests, that he may be be able to handle the big increase in innings pitched, a concren that has been pointed out here by FK. I agree that Soler is an intriging option too.

[Guest heep]

Soler got rocked in spring training.

Pelfrey gets the first shot, b/c he is the #1 pick.

Interesting note by Adam Rubin today in the Daily News, seemed skeptical that Zambrano would ever recover from his 2nd Tommy John, and even more doubtful that the Mets would resign him, given the fact that he must earn 2.4 million for 2007.

Just fucking cut him...and hope Kazmir never wins a cy young.

[Elster88]

heep wrote: Soler got rocked in spring training. Pelfrey gets the first shot, b/c he is the #1 pick.

Well who can argue with that logic?

[nymr83]

You might argue that Soler should go first because he is older and there's alot less for a 27 year old to learn, he's either ready or he never will be.

[Guest Edgy DC]

]Just fucking cut him...and hope Kazmir never wins a cy young.

They fucking can't. The rules prohibit releasing somebody while he's injured.

And either way, the Mets are responsible to pay out the remainder of his contract and he doesn't take up a roster spot.

[Frayed Knot]

Well, I think the implication is to cut him loose after the year runs out since he's not signed beyond this season.

They could get out of the $2.4mil minimum next year by cutting him loose and then re-inking him to a lesser, conditional kind of contract since he'll only be available for a partial year if any ... but even that seems to be barely worth it.

[metirish]

Kazmir will win the CY Young.....in a fucking MFY uniform........

[Guest Edgy DC]

Generally agreed.

They re-upped Scott Strickland, against my advice, for the year after he missed for surgery. He spend the next year failing to work his way back in any timely manner. Guys get paid good money recuperating from Tommy John surgery at a major-league salary. if their contracts expire in the meantime, let them work their ways back at a minor league salary on a minor-league roster.

[Guest Bret Sabermetric]

Pretty cold. Don't you think that will make poor Victor feel like he's just a commodity, to be rejected by his team in this, his greatest hour of need? Where's the compassion? Surely, there's more to baseball than just dollars and cents.

[MFS62]

Compassion?
Micheal Corleone to Bret:"This isn't personal, Sonny. Its business".

Later

[Frayed Knot]

Or teams sometimes sign players in anticipation of recovery and wind up paying for a partial season of inactivity with hopes of getting real performance at a somewhat reduced rate later on. The Yanx did that with Jon Leiber: paying for a recovery which did not happen on their watch and then getting a decent year out of it (before losing him by mis-judging his value after that). They're now doing the same with Dotel - signed for this year and next (IIRC) - with results yet to be seen.

[Guest Hillbilly]

Bret Sabermetric wrote: Pretty cold. Don't you think that will make poor Victor feel like he's just a commodity, to be rejected by his team in this, his greatest hour of need? Where's the compassion? Surely, there's more to baseball than just dollars and cents.

All kidding aside. I feel sorry for the guy. I hope he's invested well.

[Elster88]

Nymr83 wrote: You might argue that Soler should go first because he is older and there's alot less for a 27 year old to learn, he's either ready or he never will be.

You're killing me Nymr.

[Gwreck]

For what it's worth, Klapisch has an article on ESPN today that says the Mets have decided that Pelfrey's next promotion will be straight to the majors, skipping Norfolk.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=klapisch_bob&id=2445920

[Guest Hillbilly]

You'd think Klapisch could get his age right. I'd prefer not going the trade route at this point of the season.

[Guest cleonjones11]

Graziano of the Star Ledger suggested the Mets bring up Pelfrey and Milledge NOW. You'll laughed at me when I suggested it.

[Guest KC]

Who'll?

[Guest Bret Sabermetric]

They laughed at the Marx Brothers, too.

[Guest cleonjones11]

This was a no brainer two weeks ago...Same background and rise as Mark Prior

[Guest OlerudOwned]

cleonjones11 wrote: This was a no brainer two weeks ago...Same background and rise as Mark Prior

Just what we need from our top organizational pitcher, one great season followed by lingering career arm injuries!

[Frayed Knot]

Pelfrey on Sunday:
0.2 IP, 2 R, 2 H, 3 BBs, 1 K

AA stats now include a 1.85 WHiP, 4.03 ERA, 12 BBs in 22.1 IP, and the league is hitting over .300 against him.

[nymr83]

he left the game because of an organization "rule" that a pitcher won't throw more than 40 pitches in an inning no matter what, no way of knowing what would have happened.

[Theoldmole]

Did I read that they are bringing up Soler?

[Willets Point]

TheOldMole wrote: Did I read that they are bringing up Soler?

Yup.