More Stats to Drool (or Puke) Over

[Elster88]

Met ERA : 2.84

Met ERA without Julio: ~2.30

[metirish]

Best Team ERA in MLB.

[Elster88]

Jose Reyes OBP: .340 (.346 according to ESPN.com)
Jose Reyes BB: 3

Jose Reyes 2006 projected BB: 44.181818

[Guest vtmet]

I think today's game is a good example for the "which is more important, runs scored or OBP" debate...most people argue that OBP is a more important stat, and that a high OBP leads to runs and that a low OBP doesn't...I'm not so sure that Bannister and the Brewers would agree with that side of the argument...Bannister allowed 11 baserunners in 5 innings with only 1 run allowed (WHIP of 2.2, ERA less than 2)...and the Brewers had 17 batters reach base but only 3 crossed the plate (2 of them from a HR)...

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

All the same I'd prefer Bannister not try that ever again...

[Willets Point]

vtmet, one game is a small sample size. I'd wager that a team with a higher OBP is going to score more runs than a team with a lower OBP over a course of a season.

[Frayed Knot]

]All the same I'd prefer Bannister not try that ever again...

EGG-Xactly! (see how I got that Easter reference in)

Runs scored may be the more "important" stat but, to a large extent, RS is merely a function of OBP (combined with SLG and a few other things).
In the short run weird things like allowing 2+ base-runners per inning like Bannister did might only result in a scant amount of runs but you wouldn't want to walk that tight-rope too often.
And it's ditto for batters. Reyes might score a bunch of runs w/a lousy OBP but a lot of other things have to go right (good SB pct, good backup hitters) in order for that to happen and, even then, it's almost certain that he'd score even more runs with a better pct.

[Elster88]

vtmet wrote: I think today's game is a good example for the "which is more important, runs scored or OBP" debate...most people argue that OBP is a more important stat, and that a high OBP leads to runs and that a low OBP doesn't...I'm not so sure that Bannister and the Brewers would agree with that side of the argument...Bannister allowed 11 baserunners in 5 innings with only 1 run allowed (WHIP of 2.2, ERA less than 2)...and the Brewers had 17 batters reach base but only 3 crossed the plate (2 of them from a HR)...

I think yesterday's game was a good example of how great a pitcher Jorge Julio is. He gave up a shot, sure, but he buckled down, got the outs he needed and didn't give up any runs. We should move him to closer.

[Elster88]

Julio is showing that my sarcastic remark might not have been as sarcastic as I thought.

[Elster88]

NL Leaders in ERA

Greg Maddux - 1.33
Tom Glavine - 1.38


What year is this?

[Elster88]

Jose Reyes OBP .272.

Yuk.

Jose Reyes 2006 BB: 4
Jose Reyes 2006 Projected BB: 38.11764705882325941165

[Guest vtmet]

Jose Reyes vs Mike Piazza: 0 for 14;
Jose Reyes vs Bobby Cox: 1 for 11;
Jose Reyes vs Nats/Marlins/Brewers/Mirabella: 17 for 52 with 4 walks;

Bobby Cox has always found every Met vulnerability that he can...he knows that one of the keys to beating the Mets is to keep Reyes off of the base paths...

Piazza has had quite an opportunity to see what pitches expose Reyes' vulnerabilities, and what pitches he excels against...

So is it a big surprise that Reyes looks like he's a blind man swatting at flies against Cox & Piazza's pitch calling? Going a whopping 1 for 25 against them?

His OBP against Cox/Piazza: .040;
His OBP against everyone else: .375;

[Guest Bret Sabermetric]

You're assuming Piazza is paying the slightest attention when he's not gripping a bat.

The way to test this kind of thesis out is not to study past examples, whose results are already in, but by studying future examples. If Reyes bats well vs Cox/Piazza for the rest of the year, what would you say then?

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Career vs. Bobby Cox: 274/294/414
Career v. Everyone: 275/301/394

I know you're saying Cox has "learned" to exploit his weakness, but the fact that the Cox and Piazza series come in the same week suggests to me it's a normal slump any player is vulerable to.

The visual evidence at hand (lousy swings, butt backing up, bucket-stepping) doesn't suggest the opponent's gameplan is to blame nearly as much as some poor slumpy habits.

But wait and see the rest of the year -- and next, next, next -- for any definitive proof.

[Elster88]

What the fuck. Can we have one thread without a battle of Does Piazza Suck or Not? Just one?

[Frayed Knot]

All threads lead to Piazza.
Or is it Rey?
Or maybe Benitez?

Actually it's Vic's ass.

[Guest Rotblatt]

These aren't necessarily GOOD stats, so maybe this is the wrong thread to post in, but I was having some fun with BP's new customizable stats and thought I'd share.

Mets are:

NL 2006 Batting

12th in OBP: .325
15th in UBB: 68
6th in K's: 161
2nd in SB%: 90.9%
4th in HR: 36
5th in SLG: .443
5th in VORP: 43.0

So we're bad at walking, but pretty good at not striking out. We generate our offense through power and speed. Replacing Hernandez with Matsui and Chavez with Beltran should help our OBP & UBB rates, but if the rest of our players start walking more without sacrificing power, our offense will look as dominant as our pitching.

Pitching
1st WHIP: 1.23
1st H/9: 7.56
9th BB/9: 3.48
1st K/9: 7.87
T4th HR/9: 0.98
1st K/BB: 2.26
7th Inherited Runs Prevented: -1.2 (positive is good)
2nd Bequethed Runs Prevented: 5.7 (positive is good)
1st in VORP: 57.9

Our pitching has been dominant, striking out many and walking few. We don't give up many home runs. Our relievers have done well in stranding runners.

Defense
3rd in Defense Efficiency @ .732

We've converted batted balls into outs quite well.

Overall
1st in current likelihood of reaching the playoffs at 74%.
1st in current likelihood of reaching the playoffs (PECOTA adjusted) at 83%

We've played well while the rest of our division has sucked ass. Absolutely meaningless this early in the season, but I thought it was nifty nonetheless.

[A Boy Named Seo]

I know, I know, I know, but still.

Hernandez: 11 GS, 102 IP, 48 TC, 23 PO, 25 A, 0 E, 2 DP, 1.000 FP%, 4.24 RF, .767 ZR

Matsui: 11 GS, 91.1 IP, 57 TC, 30 PO, 27 A, 0 E, 8 DP, 1.000 FP%, 5.62 RF, .864 ZR

[Guest Edgy DC]

Those DP numbers are the most interesting.

Hernandez, I think, turned one of the coolest of the year with Pedro pitching in Washington and me in edgtendance.

[Centerfield]

I'm not sure how we got along before Rotty came around.

[Frayed Knot]

So, if I'm reading Seo's stats correctly, Matsui has (in fewer innings) handled more chances, had more assists, more putouts, and turned more DPs with a better zone rating and range factor than AndyHandy.

But I was told ...

[Elster88]

Longest Met losing streak of the year: 2.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Top relief ERA in baseball? Mets.

Top overall ERA in baseball? Detroit.

Second-best overall ERA in baseball? Mets.

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

You are all just fooling yourselves. This team is going to fold like a cheap tent in a Northeaster. This short period of success is just setting you up for an even bigger disappointment than usual. You can comfort yourselves with useless satistics and win - loss records all you like, but I tell you there is no way this cheap ass organization of incompetents will ever be anything more than a second rate pretender. You are all being duped out of your hard earned money by an ownership that cares only about extracting as much money from you as they possibly can by fielding a team with the illusion of competitiveness. Consider yourselves warned, this team sucks and your koolaid induced stupor has blinded you to the truth.



(sc=99.9999)

[Guest Edgy DC]

Michel Abreu:

Team	G	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	TB	BB	SO	SB	CS	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS
St. Lucie Mets	2	9	2	3	1	0	0	0	4	0	2	0	0	.333	.333	.444	.777
Binghamton Mets	10	41	4	16	2	0	2	4	24	2	7	0	0	.390	.409	.585	.994

[Elster88]

Relation?

[Guest Edgy DC]

To Bobby? Possibly, but I doubt it. Bobby is a Venezuealn native. Michel is from Cuba.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I keep telling Michel to come back to earth, but he isn't having it.

Team	From	To	G	AB	R	H	2B	3B	HR	RBI	TB	BB	SO	SB	CS	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS
St. Lucie	4/26	4/29	2	9	2	3	1	0	0	0	4	0	2	0	0	.333	.333	.444	.777
Binghamton	4/29	5/12	14	54	6	21	4	0	3	9	34	3	10	0	0	.389	.414	.630	1.044
Total	4/26	5/12	16	63	8	24	5	0	3	9	38	3	12	0	0	.381	.409	.603	1.012

[Guest Edgy DC]

Here's one your can drool over, puke over, or likely dismiss, but the Mets have a pitcher placing first, second, and third in OPS:

1. D Oliver 1.250
2. T Glavine 1.183
3. B Bannister 1.100
4. C Beltran 1.015
5. C Delgado 1.004
6. D Wright .889
7. R Castro .884
8. X Nady .884
9. P Lo Duca .787
10. E Chavez .786
11. C Woodward .717
12. J Reyes .715
13. J Valentin .685

[Guest Rotblatt]

April 2006 (31 K in 39.3 IP) is just the second time since June 2000 (31 K in 39 IP) that Glavine struck out over 30 batters in a month.

September 2005 (34 K in 47.3 IP) is the first time.