All Purpose Schaefer Discussion Thread

[metsmarathon]

quite simply, i overvalue innings pitched, and likely strikeouts, and have no method whereby i penalize starters for not tossing a quality start.

i'd fix it, but then i'd have to go back and rescore every game, and the spreadsheet is a freakin' bear. it was NOT built with flexibility in mind.

next year, my formula will hopefully be improved, to lessen the chances of this repeating.

also, wright is a victim of rounding. perez had "prorated" 2.71 points, wright 1.28

i'm considering adding a decimal place next year as well.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

I'll probably do the Schaefer thing again next year, but the rapidly declining number of voters may make me reconsider.

We started the year getting 20 voters per game, even sometimes for a Mets loss, and now a win may get only 7 to 9.

Hopefully those 7 are hardcore voters and will stick around. But I do wonder how many people care about the Schaefer Mets Player of the Year award.

[metsmarathon]

i care enough to back-fill my spreadsheet even when i miss a month's worth of voting because of moving and vacations and workload.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

You're one of the hardcore seven!

[Guest sharpie]

I was voting all of the time and have tailed off recently, as I've been outta town alot recently and watching fewer games. But I certainly hope it continues.

[metsmarathon]

the super-complicated, error-ridden formula grants me the ability to vote even without necessarily seeing the games!

[MFS62]

="Yancy Street Gang"]You're one of the hardcore seven!

We prefer to think of ourselves as The Magnificent Seven.

Later

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

I'm thinking that if the Mets get as far as the NLCS (or further) there will be a first-time-ever Schaefer Player of the Month for October.

There will also be a Schaefer Mets Player of the Series for each postseason series that the Mets are fortunate enough to play in. (Win or lose.)

And I suppose that the Schaefer Mets Player of the Year is a regular season only award, though I could be convinced otherwise.

Any thoughts?

[MFS62]

Like Major League Baseball, separate trophies should be handed out for regular and post season accomplishments.
I'm just unsure about how one very hot game in a short series might skew results.

Later

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

A starting pitcher with two strong outings will be hard to beat.

[Valadius]

Seeing as this is the all-purpose Schaefer discussion thread...



A Schaefer beer commercial.

[metsmarathon]

shcaeffer reminds you to drink responsibly, and never ever to drink and drive.

[Gwreck]

I thought the 10Ks were impressive too, but 4 runs in 5 innings isn't exactly giving your team a great chance to win...and it's worth 2 or even 3 Schaefer points? (Tue 9/12 game, Mets 6 Florida 4).

[Guest ScarletKnight41]

I like Ollie, but I didn't give him any points due to the runs. There were too many other pitchers who didn't give up runs and hitters who knocked them in and/or scored them last night. With so much achievement from others, there wasn't any beer left for Ollie.

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

Yancy - "We started the year getting 20 voters per game, even sometimes for a Mets loss, and now a win may get only 7 to 9."

I know how you feel. I have often considered dropping the POTG polls for the same reason. I figure I startd this process so I will see it through, but it is hard to get motivated to keep doing them with so little participation. Hopefully, someone enjoys the work that goes into doing and compiling the votes for the POTG votes.

I appreciate your doing the Schaeffer Polls and try to vote as often as I possibly can.

[Guest ScarletKnight41]

In doling out Schaefer tonight, I plan to be mindful that Mota nearly gave up a 3-run homer in his inning of work.

[Zvon]

ScarletKnight41 wrote: In doling out Schaefer tonight, I plan to be mindful that Mota nearly gave up a 3-run homer in his inning of work.

thats bein kinda ruff on the guy.
Milledge nearly went 3 for 3....
Reyes nearly handled that relay throw....
Its a game of inches, and Mota denied em.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

What he said. Foul balls like that mean the hitter's timing wasn't right and pitching is all about messing up the other guy's timing. The fact that it was "almost" a 3-run homer had more to do with the fact that LoDuca threw a ball into right field, necessitating an intentional walk.

And while you're deducting from what "almost" happened don't forget what "actually" happened: Two whiffs and a popup with a man on 3rd and no out, bottom of the 8th, trailing, on the road, and we won. The difference between the expected and actual runs in that situation had to be greater than at any other point in the game.

Give Mota his 6 points!

[Zvon]

Cripes, tonights was a tuff one to score no matter how you sliced it up.

[Zvon]

Johnny Dickshot wrote: Give Mota his 6 points!

LMAO!

I may have to rethink my .5, but I felt i had to split the points up among too many tonight.
But the way you put that JD,---I think your right.
Mota deserves more than a .5-im changin mine.
(now who do i screw over to do it.....mmmmm..)

[Zvon]

Mr Franco gets a .3 from me just for playing the whole extra inning game without a nap.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Voting for Tuesday's game in Miami will close on Friday morning.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

="Rockin' Doc"]Yancy - "We started the year getting 20 voters per game, even sometimes for a Mets loss, and now a win may get only 7 to 9." I know how you feel. I have often considered dropping the POTG polls for the same reason. I figure I startd this process so I will see it through, but it is hard to get motivated to keep doing them with so little participation. Hopefully, someone enjoys the work that goes into doing and compiling the votes for the POTG votes. I appreciate your doing the Schaeffer Polls and try to vote as often as I possibly can.

Doc, you're to be commended for sticking with this despite the apathy. I expect that I'll continue the Schaefer thing for 2007 mainly because I've automated it to the point where it requires little effort. I can tally and close a game in about two minutes. If it took even as much time as it did in 2005, when it was partially automated, I'd almost surely give it up.

People seem to like both varieties of POTG. I'm not sure why they don't vote. That really takes little effort!

[Guest cooby]

Rockin' Doc, I know you started your polls for my benefit, and I just wanted to let you know that I haven't missed voting in one yet


Plus I like reading about all those oddball beers!

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Wednesday's fun win is very short on Schaefer votes. Voting will close over the weekend, so today's the last full day to get your numbers in.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Voting for all three games from the lost weekend in Pittsburgh will close on Wednesday morning.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Only three votes so far for a clinching victory that most of us must have watched?

I'm seriously starting to doubt whether there's going to be Schaefer in 2007.

[Guest ScarletKnight41]

Yancy Street Gang wrote: Only three votes so far for a clinching victory that most of us must have watched? I'm seriously starting to doubt whether there's going to be Schaefer in 2007.

Wow! WTG Yancy in getting peeps to vote!

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Inspiring, ain't I?

Those awful Pittsburgh games still need some attention, too...

[nymr83]

i've gotten pretty lazy and not voted in a month or so, i guess i just got tired of it, i havent watched all 9 innings of a game in about 3 weeks now, i guess i'm just bored and wishing there had actually been a race in september, or even august.