All Purpose Schaefer Discussion Thread

[Guest ScarletKnight41]

Elster88 wrote: Why are we having trouble spelling the word Schaefer all of a sudden? That's like three threads now. One f.

Oops - sorry.

[Theoldmole]

Maybe it has to do with having more than one?

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Voting for all three games of the Toronto series will close on Wednesday morning.

I hope to close the first game in Boston on Friday morning. After that, there won't be any Schaefer results until July 11 at the earliest. Please keep starting the threads after each game, and have faith that I will return alive from Alaska to tally the rest of the Boston games and all of the July games leading up to the All-Star break.

Also, please feel free to occasionally bump undervoted Schaefer threads that drift off of the first page.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Month-to-date totals for June 2006
Through game of June 25, 2006

Rank	Name	Points
1	David Wright	30.78
2	Jos� Reyes	25.49
3	Carlos Beltran	20.30
4	Carlos Delgado	16.82
5	Alay Soler	14.87
6	Orlando Hernandez	10.56
7	Lastings Milledge	10.08
8	Tom Glavine	9.79
9	Jos� Valentin	9.29
10	Steve Trachsel	8.10
11	Chad Bradford	6.61
12	Pedro Martinez	6.59
13	Paul Lo Duca	5.51
14	Endy Chavez	5.40
15	Darren Oliver	5.32
16	Billy Wagner	5.25
17	Aaron Heilman	4.30
18	Pedro Feliciano	4.29
19	Chris Woodward	3.62
20	Xavier Nady	2.94
21	Duaner Sanchez	2.89
22	Heath Bell	2.38
23	Ramon Castro	2.19
24	Cliff Floyd	1.20
25	Julio Franco	1.13
26	Eli Marrero	1.01

Season-to-date totals for 2006
Through game of June 25, 2006

Rank	Name	Points
1	David Wright	69.30
2	Jos� Reyes	56.10
3	Carlos Beltran	55.78
4	Carlos Delgado	53.98
5	Tom Glavine	50.29
6	Pedro Martinez	46.56
7	Xavier Nady	27.62
8	Paul Lo Duca	26.40
9	Steve Trachsel	25.76
10	Jos� Valentin	22.39
11	Duaner Sanchez	20.64
12	Billy Wagner	20.22
13	Cliff Floyd	17.88
14	Darren Oliver	17.69
15	Alay Soler	17.56
16	Aaron Heilman	16.34
17	Endy Chavez	15.21
18	Brian Bannister	12.69
19	Orlando Hernandez	12.21
20	Chad Bradford	11.01
21	Pedro Feliciano	10.88
22	Lastings Milledge	10.52
23	Chris Woodward	8.32
24	Ramon Castro	8.28
25	Kaz Matsui	7.97
26	Julio Franco	5.88
27	Jorge Julio	5.37
28	Heath Bell	4.96
29	Victor Zambrano	4.66
30	Jeremi Gonzalez	3.25
31	Eli Marrero	1.01
32	John Maine	0.76
33	Anderson Hernandez	0.57
34	Victor Diaz	0.32
35	Bartolome Fortunato	0.28
36	Jos� Lima	0.12

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

That's it! I'm outta here for a while. I'll be back on July 11 or 12 to catch up on the Schaefer tallying. Until then, keep voting.

And face front, true believers!

Excelsior!

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Have a great trip!

I know Glavine lasted but 5 innings Thursday nite, but to leave him off the poll completely for doing in 5 innings what Soler & Pedro couldn't do in *any one* of their innings just ain't Wright.

[Theoldmole]

Surprises on the list as compared to what you might have predicted preseason? That Reyes is that high, and Wagner is that low. That Sanchez is above Wagner.

[Elster88]

TheOldMole wrote: That Sanchez is above Wagner.

And that Valentin is above both!?!?!

I figured he'd have been cut by mid-April.

[Elster88]

Ha-yuge drop off after Pedro.

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

I tossed Chavez a minimal vote of 0.1 for simply saving the Mets the embarrassment of being no-hit by the Yankees in tonight's debacle.

[Guest ScarletKnight41]

I agreed with that reasoning and gave him .25.

A no-no would have been intolerable, so Endy deserves a sip of beer.

[Gwreck]

Any good will Endy might have recieved gets taken away for the totally inexcusable error of getting picked off when runners were at a serious premium.

Seriously, on my ballot he gets 0 points. Not .1, not .05, ZERO.

[nymr83]

i gave chavez .25 because he stopped me from being really pissed about a no-hitter, he's now up there with Carl Everett on the list of heroes hitters who have broken up yankee no-hitters.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Don't be dissing John Maine. It's too bad that by whiffing 7 guys in 4 innings in tonight's heat he wore himself out but his team had an excellent chance to win while he was there and was still very much in it when he left. Give him his beer.

[Guest cleonjones11]

John Maine shouldn't even be in the majors...Pathetic Mets state..

[Gwreck]

7/7 loss to the Marlins (Lima started)

Lots of love for Chris Woodward. Solo home run when we're down 7. Striking out with the bases loaded. Flying out with runners on 1st and 2nd in the 8th. Whole lotta love for a whole lotta nothing.

[Elster88]

cleonjones11 wrote: John Maine shouldn't even be in the majors...Pathetic Mets state..

How did I miss this clueless statement? I guess because there are so many that I'm bound to miss one or two.

To reiterate, Maine was lights out for four innings, then got tired.

[nymr83]

Pedro is hurt. Traschel is hurt. Maine may not belong in a contender's rotation at this point but i can think of much worse spot starters that the Mets can use... ::glares at Lima::

[Guest GYC]

ASB Schaefer leaders for me:

Batting:
Wright - 75.506
Reyes - 68.060
Beltran - 60.007
Delgado - 49.070
Nady - 34.490
Lo Duca - 31.430
Valentin - 28.305
Floyd - 20.826
Chavez - 14.835
Milledge - 10.495
Castro - 10.470
Matsui - 8.560
Woodward - 8.365
Franco - 7.210
Marrero - 1.980
Diaz - 0.750
A. Hernandez - 0.580

Pitching:
Glavine - 47.760
Martinez - 43.270
Sanchez - 30.160
Trachsel - 29.620
Wagner - 25.850
Oliver - 24.650
O. Hernandez - 22.250
Heilman - 17.630
Soler - 17.190
Bradford - 15.540
Feliciano - 14.350
Bannister - 8.540
Bell - 8.017
Julio - 4.920
Zambrano - 4.001
Maine - 3.000
Fortunato - 1.500
Gonzalez - 1.500
Owens - 0.500
Pelfrey - 0.500

Percentages of points
Batters - 430.939 - 57.330%
Pitchers - 320.748 - 42.670%
Total - 751.687

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Thanks for all the bumps, Gwreck.

You may want to edit your July 2 (vs the Yankees) vote before I tally: you voted for Lo Duca twice. That probably wasn't what you intended.

[Centerfield]

Yancy, did you intend to leave Beltran out in that Sunday night game against the MFY's?

If so, why?

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

By the time he hit those homers, the game was already lost. I only gave points to players who contributed to the four-run inning at the beginning of the game.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Also, I don't want this to get lost at the bottom of the previous page:

]Thanks for all the bumps, Gwreck. You may want to edit your July 2 (vs the Yankees) vote before I tally: you voted for Lo Duca twice. That probably wasn't what you intended.

[Centerfield]

I see. Makes sense.

[Gwreck]

Yancy Street Gang wrote: Thanks for all the bumps, Gwreck. You may want to edit your July 2 (vs the Yankees) vote before I tally: you voted for Lo Duca twice. That probably wasn't what you intended.

No problem, I intended to bump them all up but then realized I missed voting for about half of them anyway...

...and I fixed that 7/2 vote, thanks.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Sorry for all the stickies, but it will only be temporary.

Voting for all four games against Pittsburgh will close on Thursday morning. I'd also like to close the Florida games on Friday so that we can get all caught up before the regular season resumes.

So if you haven't voted yet, please do so!

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

They're not stickied yet, but these games against the Marlins are very short on Schaefer votes:

July 7

July 8 (Game 1)

July 8 (Game 2)

July 9

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Here's where things stand at the All-Star break. David Wright is widening his lead, looking to repeat last year's Schaefer-winning season:

Season-to-date totals for 2006
Through game of July 9, 2006

Rank	Name	Points
1	David Wright	78.54
2	Carlos Beltran	65.17
3	Jos� Reyes	64.37
4	Carlos Delgado	56.96
5	Tom Glavine	54.07
6	Pedro Martinez	46.56
7	Xavier Nady	33.94
8	Paul Lo Duca	32.84
9	Steve Trachsel	32.03
10	Jos� Valentin	29.99
11	Duaner Sanchez	23.52
12	Cliff Floyd	22.65
13	Billy Wagner	22.03
14	Darren Oliver	21.89
15	Orlando Hernandez	21.07
16	Alay Soler	17.56
17	Endy Chavez	17.54
18	Aaron Heilman	16.64
19	Chad Bradford	13.43
20	Brian Bannister	12.69
21	Pedro Feliciano	12.44
22	Lastings Milledge	10.52
23	Ramon Castro	10.21
24	Chris Woodward	9.34
25	Kaz Matsui	7.97
26	Julio Franco	7.51
27	Heath Bell	6.92
28	Jorge Julio	5.37
29	Victor Zambrano	4.66
30	John Maine	3.99
31	Jeremi Gonzalez	3.25
32	Eli Marrero	2.16
33	Mike Pelfrey	1.35
34	Henry Owens	0.89
35	Anderson Hernandez	0.57
36	Victor Diaz	0.32
37	Bartolome Fortunato	0.28
38	Jos� Lima	0.12

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Voting for all three games at Wrigley will close on Wednesday morning. I'll apply chewing gum to the three threads on Tuesday.

[Guest ScarletKnight41]

I don't understand why some people are giving Wright more Shaefer points than Beltran for yesterday's game. IMO, the Grand Slam with a two-run lead is a bigger contribution than Mr. Wright's subsequent two-run shot.