Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted March 10 Author Posted March 10 (edited) [th]Player[/th][th]Franchise[/th][th]Rank[/th] [th]WAR[/th][td]Willie Mays[/td][td]Giants[/td][td]1[/td][td]156.4[/td][td]Warren Spahn[/td][td]Braves[/td][td]3[/td][td]91.9[/td][td]Rickey Henderson[/td][td]Athletics[/td][td]2[/td][td]72.7[/td][td]Duke Snider[/td][td]Dodgers[/td][td]4[/td][td]65.4[/td][td]Eddie Murray[/td][td]Orioles[/td][td]4[/td][td]56.4[/td][td]Gary Carter[/td][td]Expos/Nationals[/td][td]1[/td][td]55.8[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]2[/td][td][/td][td]Jim Fregosi[/td][td]Angels[/td][td]3[/td][td]45.9[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]3[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]5[/td][td][/td][td]Bret Saberhagen[/td][td]Royals[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.7[/td][td]Nolan Ryan[/td][td]Angels[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.0[/td][td]Jose Bautista[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]3[/td][td]38.4[/td][td]Tony Fernandez[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]4[/td][td]37.5[/td][td]Carlos Delgado[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]5[/td][td]36.8[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]4[/td][td][/td] Not on the list:Ashburn, #7 for the PhilliesBerra, #7 for the YankeesMartinez, #8 for the Red Sox (also #22 for the Expos/Nationals)Glavine, #9 for the BravesSoto, #14 for the Expos/NationalsConine, #16 for the MarlinsSheffield, #17 for the MarlinsKent, #31 for the GiantsR. Alomar, #54 for the Guardians (also #16 for the Blue Jays and #33 for the Padres) Edited March 10 by Gwreck
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted March 10 Author Posted March 10 [th]Player[/th][th]Franchise[/th][th]Rank[/th] [th]WAR[/th][td]Willie Mays[/td][td]Giants[/td][td]1[/td][td]156.4[/td][td]Warren Spahn[/td][td]Braves[/td][td]3[/td][td]91.9[/td][td]Rickey Henderson[/td][td]Athletics[/td][td]2[/td][td]72.7[/td][td]Duke Snider[/td][td]Dodgers[/td][td]4[/td][td]65.4[/td][td]Eddie Murray[/td][td]Orioles[/td][td]4[/td][td]56.4[/td][td]Gary Carter[/td][td]Expos/Nationals[/td][td]1[/td][td]55.8[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]2[/td][td][/td][td]Jim Fregosi[/td][td]Angels[/td][td]3[/td][td]45.9[/td][td]Amos Otis[/td][td]Royals[/td][td]3[/td][td]44.8[/td][td]Bret Saberhagen[/td][td]Royals[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.7[/td][td]Max Scherzer[/td][td]Expos/Nationals[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.3[/td][td]Nolan Ryan[/td][td]Angels[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.0[/td][td]Jose Bautista[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]3[/td][td]38.4[/td][td]Tony Fernandez[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]4[/td][td]37.5[/td][td]Carlos Delgado[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]5[/td][td]36.8[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]4[/td][td][/td] Not on the list:Ashburn, #7 for the PhilliesBerra, #7 for the YankeesMartinez, #8 for the Red Sox (also #22 for the Expos/Nationals)Glavine, #9 for the BravesSoto, #14 for the Expos/Nationals (also #69 for the Padres)Conine, #16 for the MarlinsSheffield, #17 for the MarlinsKent, #31 for the GiantsR. Alomar, #54 for the Guardians (also #16 for the Blue Jays and #33 for the Padres)
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted March 10 Author Posted March 10 [th]Player[/th][th]Franchise[/th][th]Rank[/th] [th]WAR[/th][td]Willie Mays[/td][td]Giants[/td][td]1[/td][td]156.4[/td][td]Warren Spahn[/td][td]Braves[/td][td]3[/td][td]91.9[/td][td]Rickey Henderson[/td][td]Athletics[/td][td]2[/td][td]72.7[/td][td]Duke Snider[/td][td]Dodgers[/td][td]4[/td][td]65.4[/td][td]Eddie Murray[/td][td]Orioles[/td][td]4[/td][td]56.4[/td][td]Gary Carter[/td][td]Expos/Nationals[/td][td]1[/td][td]55.8[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]2[/td][td][/td][td]Jim Fregosi[/td][td]Angels[/td][td]3[/td][td]45.9[/td][td]Amos Otis[/td][td]Royals[/td][td]3[/td][td]44.8[/td][td]Bret Saberhagen[/td][td]Royals[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.7[/td][td]Max Scherzer[/td][td]Expos/Nationals[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.3[/td][td]Nolan Ryan[/td][td]Angels[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.0[/td][td]Jose Bautista[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]3[/td][td]38.4[/td][td]Tony Fernandez[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]4[/td][td]37.5[/td][td]Carlos Delgado[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]5[/td][td]36.8[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]4[/td][td][/td] Not on the list:Ashburn, #7 for the PhilliesBerra, #7 for the YankeesMartinez, #8 for the Red Sox (also #22 for the Expos/Nationals)Glavine, #9 for the BravesSoto, #14 for the Expos/Nationals (also #69 for the Padres)Conine, #16 for the MarlinsSheffield, #17 for the MarlinsPiazza, #28 for the DodgersKent, #31 for the GiantsR. Alomar, #54 for the Guardians (also #16 for the Blue Jays and #33 for the Padres)Could’ve Appeared Twice on a Long List:Ryan is also #20 for the AstrosRickey is also #38 for the YankeesScherzer is also #42 for the Tigers
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted March 10 Posted March 10 I'm seeing that expansion teams are a good bet, so I'll try Robinson Cano and the Mariners.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted March 10 Posted March 10 I'm guessing Nolan Ryan is a good bet too, so I will guess him with the [CROSSOUT]Rangers[/CROSSOUT] Astros.
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted March 10 Author Posted March 10 [th]Player[/th][th]Franchise[/th][th]Rank[/th] [th]WAR[/th][td]Willie Mays[/td][td]Giants[/td][td]1[/td][td]156.4[/td][td]Warren Spahn[/td][td]Braves[/td][td]3[/td][td]91.9[/td][td]Rickey Henderson[/td][td]Athletics[/td][td]2[/td][td]72.7[/td][td]Duke Snider[/td][td]Dodgers[/td][td]4[/td][td]65.4[/td][td]Eddie Murray[/td][td]Orioles[/td][td]4[/td][td]56.4[/td][td]Gary Carter[/td][td]Expos/Nationals[/td][td]1[/td][td]55.8[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]2[/td][td][/td][td]Jim Fregosi[/td][td]Angels[/td][td]3[/td][td]45.9[/td][td]Amos Otis[/td][td]Royals[/td][td]3[/td][td]44.8[/td][td]Bret Saberhagen[/td][td]Royals[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.7[/td][td]Max Scherzer[/td][td]Expos/Nationals[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.3[/td][td]Nolan Ryan[/td][td]Angels[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.0[/td][td]Jose Bautista[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]3[/td][td]38.4[/td][td]Tony Fernandez[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]4[/td][td]37.5[/td][td]Carlos Delgado[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]5[/td][td]36.8[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]4[/td][td][/td] Not on the list:Ashburn, #7 for the PhilliesBerra, #7 for the YankeesMartinez, #8 for the Red Sox (also #22 for the Expos/Nationals)Glavine, #9 for the BravesCano, #9 for the Mariners (also #21 for the Yankees)Verlander, #9 for the Tigers (also #22 for the Astros)Soto, #14 for the Expos/Nationals (also #69 for the Padres)Conine, #16 for the MarlinsSheffield, #17 for the MarlinsPiazza, #28 for the DodgersKent, #31 for the GiantsR. Alomar, #54 for the Guardians (also #16 for the Blue Jays and #33 for the Padres)Could’ve Appeared Multiple Times on a Long List:Ryan is also #20 for the Astros and #30 for the RangersRickey is also #38 for the YankeesScherzer is also #42 for the Tigers
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted March 10 Author Posted March 10 [th]Player[/th][th]Franchise[/th][th]Rank[/th] [th]WAR[/th][td]Willie Mays[/td][td]Giants[/td][td]1[/td][td]156.4[/td][td]Warren Spahn[/td][td]Braves[/td][td]3[/td][td]91.9[/td][td]Rickey Henderson[/td][td]Athletics[/td][td]2[/td][td]72.7[/td][td]Duke Snider[/td][td]Dodgers[/td][td]4[/td][td]65.4[/td][td]Eddie Murray[/td][td]Orioles[/td][td]4[/td][td]56.4[/td][td]Gary Carter[/td][td]Expos/Nationals[/td][td]1[/td][td]55.8[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]2[/td][td][/td][td]Jim Fregosi[/td][td]Angels[/td][td]3[/td][td]45.9[/td][td]Amos Otis[/td][td]Royals[/td][td]3[/td][td]44.8[/td][td]Bret Saberhagen[/td][td]Royals[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.7[/td][td]Max Scherzer[/td][td]Expos/Nationals[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.3[/td][td]Nolan Ryan[/td][td]Angels[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.0[/td][td]Jose Bautista[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]3[/td][td]38.4[/td][td]Tony Fernandez[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]4[/td][td]37.5[/td][td]Carlos Delgado[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]5[/td][td]36.8[/td][td]Luis Castillo[/td][td]Marlins[/td][td]4[/td][td]22.4[/td] Not on the list:Ashburn, #7 for the PhilliesBerra, #7 for the YankeesMartinez, #8 for the Red Sox (also #22 for the Expos/Nationals)Glavine, #9 for the BravesCano, #9 for the Mariners (also #21 for the Yankees)Verlander, #9 for the Tigers (also #22 for the Astros)Soto, #14 for the Expos/Nationals (also #69 for the Padres)Conine, #16 for the MarlinsSheffield, #17 for the MarlinsPiazza, #28 for the DodgersKent, #31 for the GiantsR. Alomar, #54 for the Guardians (also #16 for the Blue Jays and #33 for the Padres)Could’ve Appeared Multiple Times on a Long List:Ryan is also #20 for the Astros and #30 for the RangersRickey is also #38 for the YankeesScherzer is also #42 for the Tigers
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted March 10 Author Posted March 10 Rusty is #23 for the Expos (and #49 for the Astros).
stevejrogers Old-Timey Member Posted March 10 Posted March 10 Geez, someone second all-time for a franchise should be super obvious…I mean Randy Jones can’t still be second, if he ever actually was, for the PadsHint time?
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted March 10 Posted March 10 This seems very unlikely, but... Robin Ventura, White Sox?
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted March 10 Posted March 10 Johan Santana, Minnesota Twin. Let's see... He'd probably be behind Walter Johnson, Sam Rice, Rod Carew, and Harmon Killebrew.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted March 10 Posted March 10 Yeah, that was a wild shot.But hey! I got Luis Castillo!
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted March 10 Author Posted March 10 [th]Player[/th][th]Franchise[/th][th]Rank[/th] [th]WAR[/th][td]Willie Mays[/td][td]Giants[/td][td]1[/td][td]156.4[/td][td]Warren Spahn[/td][td]Braves[/td][td]3[/td][td]91.9[/td][td]Rickey Henderson[/td][td]Athletics[/td][td]2[/td][td]72.7[/td][td]Duke Snider[/td][td]Dodgers[/td][td]4[/td][td]65.4[/td][td]Eddie Murray[/td][td]Orioles[/td][td]4[/td][td]56.4[/td][td]Gary Carter[/td][td]Expos/Nationals[/td][td]1[/td][td]55.8[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td]2[/td][td][/td][td]Jim Fregosi[/td][td]Angels[/td][td]3[/td][td]45.9[/td][td]Amos Otis[/td][td]Royals[/td][td]3[/td][td]44.8[/td][td]Bret Saberhagen[/td][td]Royals[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.7[/td][td]Max Scherzer[/td][td]Expos/Nationals[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.3[/td][td]Nolan Ryan[/td][td]Angels[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.0[/td][td]Jose Bautista[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]3[/td][td]38.4[/td][td]Tony Fernandez[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]4[/td][td]37.5[/td][td]Carlos Delgado[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]5[/td][td]36.8[/td][td]Luis Castillo[/td][td]Marlins[/td][td]4[/td][td]22.4[/td] Not on the list:Boyer, #6 for the CardinalsAshburn, #7 for the PhilliesBerra, #7 for the YankeesMartinez, #8 for the Red Sox (also #22 for the Expos/Nationals)Glavine, #9 for the BravesCano, #9 for the Mariners (also #21 for the Yankees)Verlander, #9 for the Tigers (also #22 for the Astros)Randy Jones, #11 for the PadresSoto, #14 for the Expos/Nationals (also #69 for the Padres)Conine, #16 for the MarlinsSheffield, #17 for the MarlinsSantana, #17 for the TwinsPiazza, #28 for the DodgersKent, #31 for the GiantsR. Alomar, #54 for the Guardians (also #16 for the Blue Jays and #33 for the Padres)Could’ve Appeared Multiple Times on a Long List:Ryan is also #20 for the Astros and #30 for the RangersRickey is also #38 for the YankeesScherzer is also #42 for the Tigers
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted March 10 Author Posted March 10 That’s our list, please collect your fabulous prizes on the way out. [th]Player[/th][th]Franchise[/th][th]Rank[/th] [th]WAR[/th][td]Willie Mays[/td][td]Giants[/td][td]1[/td][td]156.4[/td][td]Warren Spahn[/td][td]Braves[/td][td]3[/td][td]91.9[/td][td]Rickey Henderson[/td][td]Athletics[/td][td]2[/td][td]72.7[/td][td]Duke Snider[/td][td]Dodgers[/td][td]4[/td][td]65.4[/td][td]Eddie Murray[/td][td]Orioles[/td][td]4[/td][td]56.4[/td][td]Gary Carter[/td][td]Expos/Nationals[/td][td]1[/td][td]55.8[/td][td]Kevin Appier[/td][td]Royals[/td][td]2[/td][td]47.1[/td][td]Jim Fregosi[/td][td]Angels[/td][td]3[/td][td]45.9[/td][td]Amos Otis[/td][td]Royals[/td][td]3[/td][td]44.8[/td][td]Bret Saberhagen[/td][td]Royals[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.7[/td][td]Max Scherzer[/td][td]Expos/Nationals[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.3[/td][td]Nolan Ryan[/td][td]Angels[/td][td]5[/td][td]40.0[/td][td]Jose Bautista[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]3[/td][td]38.4[/td][td]Tony Fernandez[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]4[/td][td]37.5[/td][td]Carlos Delgado[/td][td]Blue Jays[/td][td]5[/td][td]36.8[/td][td]Luis Castillo[/td][td]Marlins[/td][td]4[/td][td]22.4[/td] Not on the list:Boyer, #6 for the CardinalsAshburn, #7 for the PhilliesBerra, #7 for the YankeesMartinez, #8 for the Red Sox (also #22 for the Expos/Nationals)Glavine, #9 for the BravesCano, #9 for the Mariners (also #21 for the Yankees)Verlander, #9 for the Tigers (also #22 for the Astros)Randy Jones, #11 for the PadresSoto, #14 for the Expos/Nationals (also #69 for the Padres)Conine, #16 for the MarlinsSheffield, #17 for the MarlinsSantana, #17 for the TwinsPiazza, #28 for the DodgersKent, #31 for the GiantsR. Alomar, #54 for the Guardians (also #16 for the Blue Jays and #33 for the Padres)Could’ve Appeared Multiple Times on a Long List:Ryan is also #20 for the Astros and #30 for the RangersRickey is also #38 for the YankeesScherzer is also #42 for the Tigers
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted March 10 Posted March 10 (edited) I would have gotten to Kevin Appier somewhere around the time when Soto's contract is due to expire ... but only if I thought about it constantly between now and then.G Brett (nearly double everyone else) then Appier -- A Otis -- Willie Wilson - Bret SaberhagenActive Royals include Salvatore Perez #7 and Bobby Witt Jr in 19th place ... although Witt may crack the Top-10 by mid-Maybtw, the Royals have retired three just uniform numbers:George Brett - career KCR and the franchise's best player by a country mileDick Howser - five+ year manager who took them to their first pennant and WS, then left midway thru the '86 season for health reasons and was dead less than a year later at age 51Frank White - 9th best* career team WAR and a non-HoF'er, but an 18-year KCR lifer.* behind the top five mentioned above plus Mark Gubicza, Sal Perez, and Alex Gordon Edited March 10 by Frayed Knot
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted March 10 Posted March 10 I think Witt passed his father before turning 25, and his father played 16 seasons, from 1986 to 2001.His father played back when there were no WARs.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted March 10 Posted March 10 His father played back when there were no WARs. Just like there won't be any during the Trump admini... never mind.
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