Bob Alpacadaca Verified Member Posted June 4, 2024 Posted June 4, 2024 Do you think trading Pete would make it more difficult to sign him? I know Boras clients follow the money. But if he goes to, say, Chicago and hits 20 bombs in two months, he might like it there and they might be more inclined to pay more for him. I fear Juan Soto is staying in the Bronx.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted June 4, 2024 Posted June 4, 2024 I think if Pete gets traded that's his tenure with the Mets over
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted June 4, 2024 Posted June 4, 2024 I think that's probably the case, but who knows, he may come back. Jay-or-reese Familia was traded to the Athletics and then resigned with the Mets the following winter.Pete seems to like being an LFGM. If the Mets decide they want him back, and the money is right, I don't think he'd refuse to return.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted June 4, 2024 Posted June 4, 2024 Yeah , I also don't think he's getting the big $$ and years he maybe once envisioned
Bob Alpacadaca Verified Member Posted June 4, 2024 Posted June 4, 2024 If we don’t trade him, we could extend the qualifying offer and get the draft pick if he signs elsewhere, right? So would what we get back in a rental trade be better than a draft pick?
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted June 4, 2024 Posted June 4, 2024 A young player who has established himself, either with a year or two in the majors or even at AA or AAA is more of a known quantity than a draft pick. I'd rather have two well-regarded AA or AAA prospects than a draft pick.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted June 4, 2024 Posted June 4, 2024 That certainly will be part of the calculus.But we've got eight weeks, babies. A lot can and will happen in eight weeks.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted June 4, 2024 Posted June 4, 2024 The Mets never did get a draft pick for Conforto, did they? Because he ended up waiting until the following offseason before signing with the Giants?
Johnny Lunchbucket Old-Timey Member Posted June 4, 2024 Posted June 4, 2024 I believe the Mets payroll situation penalizes their draft-pick compensation, and we'd only get a 4th round pick if Alonso bails
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted June 4, 2024 Posted June 4, 2024 I believe the Mets payroll situation penalizes their draft-pick compensation, and we'd only get a 4th round pick if Alonso bails That's my understanding, too.
Bob Alpacadaca Verified Member Posted June 5, 2024 Posted June 5, 2024 I think we're better off holding on to him and taking the risk that someone will outbid us for him.
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted June 5, 2024 Posted June 5, 2024 Let Pete stayYou don't have to get 100% value out of every slot on the rosterI'm all for keeping him rather trading him at the deadline for a couple of middling prospects
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted June 5, 2024 Posted June 5, 2024 The factors feeding into the decision are going to change drastically every day. They changed drastically with his ugly 0-for-five on Monday. They changed drastically again when he went 2-for-5 with a homer last night.The main factors, of course, we have little knowledge of, and that's the matter of what kind of deals are or will be available over the course of the middle of the season.I'm just hoping the Mets take Game Three of the series this afternoon.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted June 5, 2024 Posted June 5, 2024 Let Pete stayYou don't have to get 100% value out of every slot on the rosterI'm all for keeping him rather trading him at the deadline for a couple of middling prospects My guess is that the Mets won't trade Alonso if all they can get for him in return are "middling prospects ". I don't think that the Mets will trade Alonso simply for the sake of trading him.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted June 5, 2024 Author Posted June 5, 2024 Discussion on this topic has been going on for a while.https://phpbb3.ultimatemets.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=32061
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted June 5, 2024 Author Posted June 5, 2024 Well it did exist. But now that the threads have been merged perhaps the 'address' changed and, besides, the merger makes the link meaningless anyway.
Lefty Specialist Old-Timey Member Posted June 5, 2024 Posted June 5, 2024 If the Mets are still bumping along below .500 at the end of July, I'd expect Pete and a bunch of others will be gone. Remember Cohen is OK with paying off contracts to get something better back in the deal, so I'd expect Alonso will fetch more than he otherwise might have.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted June 5, 2024 Posted June 5, 2024 Well, unlike Scherzer and Verlander last year, by July 31 Pete won't have that much guaranteed money left on his contract.
Cowtipper Old-Timey Member Posted June 5, 2024 Posted June 5, 2024 The only thing that bedaffles me is why Alonso is still with this team. He's just taking up space. Time to start auditioning for the future now, not August 1. He's nearing his total collapse and the Mets might as well ditch him while he still has value.
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted June 5, 2024 Posted June 5, 2024 Pete.is trying his bestThe results are something else
kcmets Old-Timey Member Posted June 5, 2024 Posted June 5, 2024 I'm confused why it would bedaffle someone.But here we are, and too early in the season for me.
Cowtipper Old-Timey Member Posted June 5, 2024 Posted June 5, 2024 All I can say is, if I ran the team, we'd be 162-0 right now.
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted June 5, 2024 Posted June 5, 2024 The only thing that bedaffles me is why Alonso is still with this team. He's just taking up space. Time to start auditioning for the future now, not August 1. He's nearing his total collapse and the Mets might as well ditch him while he still has value. Do you know how asinine the sounds?I mean wtf?All hyperbole
Cowtipper Old-Timey Member Posted June 5, 2024 Posted June 5, 2024 The only thing that bedaffles me is why Alonso is still with this team. He's just taking up space. Time to start auditioning for the future now, not August 1. He's nearing his total collapse and the Mets might as well ditch him while he still has value. Do you know how asinine the sounds?I mean wtf?All hyperbole I don't know how asinine it sounds, please elucidate.
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted June 5, 2024 Posted June 5, 2024 Pete is not in a total collapseThe part about auditioning is hard to make sense of as writtenThe whole paragraph comes off as gibberish with little to no contextYour objective is to troll the Mets
Cowtipper Old-Timey Member Posted June 5, 2024 Posted June 5, 2024 No, I love the Mets. But they are not due our fealty just cuz we're fans. They are getting paid a lot of money to perform, and when they don't perform, they are justifiably ridiculed. I don't understand what is confusing about starting 2025 auditions now. If the team is building for 2025, they should be auditioning players for 2025—and seeing what works—now, not later in the season.I've said elsewhere that the Nimmo-Alonso-McNeil-Diaz core, with later additions of Lindor and Marte (and Ottavino, too, come to think of it), has been together for a long time, yet they're barely a .500 team. That is unacceptable and clearly not working as it is built. Time to tear down and start over.And yes, Alonso is in a collapse. Most pure power guys his size fall apart at some point and he's at that point I think.I want the Mets to succeed more than anybody, but I'm not convinced the Mets want the Mets to succeed.
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted June 5, 2024 Posted June 5, 2024 What constitutes an auditionAnd what would you do???
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