Let's talk about Garrett Crochet

[smg58]

=Centerfield post_id=180693 time=1733856389 user_id=65]
You sound like me.



Victor Diaz, Dilson Herrera and Gavin Cecchini were a couple of guys I knew were going to be stars.



Which is why I can't even pretend to know who should be dealt. I'm sure I would have had no objection to trading Vientos before this season.

Edited December 10, 2024 by Guest

[Benjamin Grimm]

The Mets of the 1980s seemed to be pretty good at that, with the notable exception of Kevin Mitchell.



As I recall, in most cases the prospects they kept ended up being better than the ones they traded.

[smg58]

Yeah they did sell kind of high on Ed Hearn. But they also made Jefferies out to be quite a bit more than he was.

[MFS62]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: The Mets of the 1980s seemed to be pretty good at that, with the notable exception of Kevin Mitchell. As I recall, in most cases the prospects they kept ended up being better than the ones they traded.

I credit that to the minor league organization (based on his his Baltimore model) the Frank Cashen built.

Later

[G-Fafif]

Red Sox knit one, purl two, get Crochet for 4 top prospects.

[metirish]

[Benjamin Grimm]

I'm okay with missing out on this one.

[MFS62]

I've been accused of being crochety, but not about losing him.

Later

[smg58]

Prospects 4, 5, 11, and 14 from the Red Sox system according to MLB.com, including #25 and #54 overall. For a guy who's shown some flashes.

[Centerfield]

So that's like Brandon Sproat, Jett Williams, Ronny Mauricio, and a lower level guy?

[metirish]

Make of this what you will( Bob is known to be wrong )

[Benjamin Grimm]

If the Mets weren't a finalist, it was probably because they didn't want to trade three or four top prospects for a two-year pitcher.



I'm okay with that.

[metirish]

Absolutely, me too

[Frayed Knot]

The Puma (NYP) reports that the Mets were in talks for Crochet and ChiSox asked the Mets for four prospects including RHP Brandon Sproat (mlb.com's #40 overall prospect)

The package from Boston was highlighted by the #25 overall, catcher Kyle Teel, and #54 overall OF Braden Montgomery plus two lower names.



So it would have taken Sproat and at least one of the other upper names that most of us know [Mauricio, Jett, Gilbert, Acuna] for two years of a guy considered on the rise but without a lengthy track record behind him. But you gotta give up to get and it appears that Boston gave up some promising young talent.



On the other hand I remember the last big swap meet of Red and White socks was when Boston also dealt four prospects to the Windy City for Chris Sale eight winters ago.

The main bait then was top Yoan Moncada and 2014 1st round (33rd overall) draft pick Michael Kopech. Moncada was teh main guy but he went on to have just one good/full season, in 2019 as a 24 y/o. After that it was mostly missed time due to injuries and a lot more strikeouts than hitting. Chicago non-tendered him last month. They got more regular, but mostly mediocre, use out of Kopech and the ChiSox traded him to the Dodgers at this year's trade deadline.

Of course sale missed a ton of time too [all of '20 and most of '21 & '22] but at least he was good when available.

[Gwreck]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: If the Mets weren't a finalist, it was probably because they didn't want to trade three or four top prospects for a two-year pitcher. I'm okay with that.

The Mets have an immediate need for top-of-the-line starting pitching. Not in 2 or 3 years…this year, right now.



It can also be acquired by spending lots and lots of money…but if the Mets don't want to trade prospects, they shouldn't also act as if they don't want to sign pitchers to 6 or 7 year deals.

[Frayed Knot]

Garrett Crochet's debut for the Red Sox went well enough [5 IP, 2 ER on 5 H, 2 BB, 4 K] over the weekend.

It also accounted for Boston's lone win of the season so the Sawx decided it was worthy of a six-year/$170 extension.

Wonder what his second win will merit?