Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted January 31, 2024 Posted January 31, 2024 Still has to go through all the approval stuff via finances and MLB, but CEO John Angelos has agreed to sell to a group headed byBaltimore native David Rubenstein for a reported $1.725 billion. John Angelos assumed running the club in 2020 taking over forhis now 94 y/o father Peter.Coming off a 101-win season with a low payroll, young stars already on the field with more seemingly on their way, plus a newrecently negotiated 30-year lease at Camden Yards, it sounds like a good time for the Angelos clan to 'sell high'.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted January 31, 2024 Posted January 31, 2024 Oh I'm sure the fans will be happy to see the back of that family
whippoorwill Old-Timey Member Posted January 31, 2024 Posted January 31, 2024 A young winning team? Let's all go together and buy them!
kcmets Old-Timey Member Posted January 31, 2024 Posted January 31, 2024 I got $17, it's all yours if you can make it happen!
Centerfield Old-Timey Member Posted January 31, 2024 Posted January 31, 2024 I wonder how much wins/prospects affect the value of a franchise. I would think most of the value is the anti-trust exemption. Anything else is gravy.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted January 31, 2024 Author Posted January 31, 2024 =Centerfield post_id=146170 time=1706718605 user_id=65]I wonder how much wins/prospects affect the value of a franchise.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted January 31, 2024 Posted January 31, 2024 These things get framed in black and white, but Angelos family has more of a mixed legacy in Baltimore. There have been blatant missteps, but Peter built an ownership group comprised of local luminaries — himself, Tom Clancy, Pam Shriver, Barry Levinson — and he took over just after the establishment of Oriole Park at Camden Yards, so even though he didn't build it, the good will around it reflected on him. Through multiple cycles of revitalization and decline in downtown, the neighborhood and culture in and around the park has (mostly) been untouched by any but the best of good will from the varying (often otherwise clashing) factions of the city and county.The Angelos name decorates the outside of downtown hospital wings and university buildings, and these too remain in excellent shape in a city with a big dilapidation and vacancy problem. The team has spent when the opportunity was available, as quixotic as it has been to try to keep up with the Yankees and the Red Sox. If fan interference had been correctly called on Jeffrey Maier, the story of the Orioles over the last 30 years (and that of the Yankees, too, of course) might be very different.
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted January 31, 2024 Posted January 31, 2024 Thanks, Edgy.We knew you would provide additional insight.One of our daughters is a Maryland Terp (we would always stop on the way to/from visiting her), and our best friends are from Bal'mer. So we've spend a lot of time in the city, and have special memories good times there.Later
A Boy Named Seo Old-Timey Member Posted January 31, 2024 Posted January 31, 2024 I wish John Fisher shared Peter Angelos' ambitions to retire an old, disgustingly rich person.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted January 31, 2024 Posted January 31, 2024 Everything about the Fisher case is weird. He only bought the A's after trying to take over the Giants as minority owner to move them to Tampa. Not to San Jose, where all the Richie Rich Giant fans can have easy access, but to Tampa, whose baseball legacy speaks for itself.MLB then lets him buy up the A's, he runs them on austerity forever, always trying to maneuver a way to move them out of town.It's as if he's completely alien to the Bay Area and could give two shits, but he's the son of the original Gap owner, and it's hard to be more San Francisco than that.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted January 31, 2024 Posted January 31, 2024 Edgy MD wrote:He only bought the A's after trying to take over the Giants as minority owner to move them to Tampa. Not to San Jose, where all the Richie Rich Giant fans can have easy access, but to Tampa, whose baseball legacy speaks for itself.Was this some time in the mid-1970s? At least at that point, Tampa hadn't yet established its poor legacy.Also around that time, I seem to recall a guy named Marvin Davis who wanted to move the Athletics to Denver.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted January 31, 2024 Author Posted January 31, 2024 That the Bay Area was unable to support two baseball teams was an assumed 'fact' by many during the '70s so there almost seemed to be an ongoing contest to see who could move which team first and which other city would give them the best deal.IIRC, at least A reason, if not The reason, the Trop Dome in St. Pete, FL was built was as a lure to one or the other.
Bob Alpacadaca Old-Timey Member Posted January 31, 2024 Posted January 31, 2024 Angelos has a mixed legacy to be sure. But I always appreciated that he refused to go along with the plan to field replacement players had the strike extended into 1995. Whether he was doing that to make sure Ripken's streak wasn't snapped, or he was just recognized the general disaster that would be, he is often credited with pushing the strike toward a settlement.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted January 31, 2024 Posted January 31, 2024 Some of Angelos biggest work as a lawyer was representing labor against management in workplace liability cases and such. Refusing to hire scabs might have been an expression of integrity, but he also would have been killing his golden goose.Also worth noting that in an industry where about 85% of owners are Republicans and 75% have supported President Trump to one degree or another, the Angelos family are a notable exception.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted January 31, 2024 Author Posted January 31, 2024 partially cross-posted with aboveMostly it was that Angelos spent a career as a labor lawyer (much of his fortune was made upon winning a class action suit against asbestos victims) so the idea of replacement/scab players went against what he had done his whole career.One problem in the later part of his ownership tenure was the inclusion of his sons in running the team where, not unlike the Wilpons, ownerstrying to run the team as well are often hampered by not knowing what it is they don't know. One story has one of his sons making decisionsbased on how players were, or weren't, performing on his fantasy team.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted February 1, 2024 Posted February 1, 2024 Less reported is that the sale by the Angelos family is preceded by disputin' and lawsuitin' between Peter Angelos' sons, with son Louis accusing son John of dirty tricks to get controlling interest.The two main figures in the purchasing group — David Rubenstein and Michael Arougheti — are in the asset management game, which seems like the best way to get rich enough to buy a baseball team these days. Minority figures in the purchase include Baseball Hall-of-Famer Cal Ripken, Jr., Basketball Hall-of-Famer Grant Hill (Rubenstein is a big Duke donor, and former chair of the board of trustees), former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, and former Baltimore Mayor Kurt Schmoke. I imagine those names are there to look good on the prospectus and secure partnership and community support. When in Baltimore, it's a lot harder to say GtFO to Cal Ripken.
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