Fred Wilpon FC

[A Boy Named Seo]

NYCFC going to next a new home right next to Citi?



https://nypost.com/2022/07/26/mayor-eric-adams-to-approve-nycfc-stadium-for-queens-sources/https://nypost.com/2022/07/26/mayor-eric-adams-to-approve-nycfc-stadium-for-queens-sources/



https://therealdeal.com/2022/07/27/queens-soccer-stadium-headed-for-sterling-equities-related-land-report/https://therealdeal.com/2022/07/27/queens-soccer-stadium-headed-for-sterling-equities-related-land-report/



From the latter article:

Mayor Eric Adams is expected to throw his support behind a 25,000-seat soccer stadium near Citi Field, the New York Post reported. Sources told the outlet the stadium would be privately funded, built on land leased by two real estate titans, Fred Wilpon's Sterling Equities and Stephen Ross' Related Companies.

[Ceetar]

and Cohen wants to build a casino (and probably will, since he's bribing the right people)



you're not gonna recognize the place in 10 years.

[Marshmallowmilkshake]

I saw big stretches of the iron triangle cleared when I was there this month. Is that the spot where this is all going?

[Ceetar]

=Marshmallowmilkshake post_id=101197 time=1658945716 user_id=119]
I saw big stretches of the iron triangle cleared when I was there this month. Is that the spot where this is all going?

[Marshmallowmilkshake]

Pig Adams? What does that mean?

[Ceetar]

he's a cop. cops are pigs. and that's the nice word.

[Marshmallowmilkshake]

Wow. That's horrible.



Seems like a good place for a stadium -- or any kind of development that would make the area a little nicer for before or after game activities.

Edited July 27, 2022 by Guest

[kcmets]

It would be nice if you could just reel it in a tad. This is a soccer stadium thread.

[kcmets]

Isn't 25,000 kinda small for a soccer stadium? I don't follow American soccer

at all so don't know maybe that's the norm.

[roger_that]

I was sure "FC" stood for "Fucking Cheapskate."

[Ceetar]

the scumbag of a former cop, who's solution to fake crime statistics is to harass homeless people, was relevant to the conversation, as he's got sway in what happens here. Just the "he approves of the stadium" is relevant because there are only so many things you can put there, and mentioning one without talking about the affordable housing (you know, to put the homeless people you're trying to kill in) or the school, is relevant.



This is NYC real estate, they're going to be fighting to maximize revenue/profit/riches/power and schools and affordable housing are roadblocks to them that they'd like to avoid, the only thing standing in the way is government regulations that are supposed to help protect citizens, but as we've seen from our favorite ex-cop asshole who lives in NJ, he doesn't care about them.

[Edgy MD]

I'd encourage you to take that show on the road and see how it plays.

[kcmets]

=Ceetar post_id=101198 time=1658946134 user_id=102]the Casino would go over Shea.

[Ceetar]

the revenue from parking pales compared to the casino revenue. Probably build a few parking garages too I'd imagine. And valet.

[kcmets]

Whatever, I'd be shocked if they put a casino where Shea's home plate and

base markers are. I don't care, I take the subway.

[MFS62]

People leaving a casino at all hours of the night with cash in their pockets and getting on the subway.

What could possibly go wrong?



Later

[MFS62]

=kcmets post_id=101207 time=1658947816 user_id=53]
Isn't 25,000 kinda small for a soccer stadium? I don't follow American soccer

at all so don't know maybe that's the norm.

[metsmarathon]

red bulls arena seats 25,000 as well.

[Marshmallowmilkshake]

the scumbag of a former cop, who's solution to fake crime statistics is to harass homeless people, was relevant to the conversation, as he's got sway in what happens here. Just the "he approves of the stadium" is relevant because there are only so many things you can put there, and mentioning one without talking about the affordable housing (you know, to put the homeless people you're trying to kill in) or the school, is relevant. This is NYC real estate, they're going to be fighting to maximize revenue/profit/riches/power and schools and affordable housing are roadblocks to them that they'd like to avoid, the only thing standing in the way is government regulations that are supposed to help protect citizens, but as we've seen from our favorite ex-cop asshole who lives in NJ, he doesn't care about them.

No one builds affordable housing next to stadiums. Traffic and noise aren't compatible for places where families live. You build schools near housing, not in the middle of sports complexes.



No one is trying to kill homeless people.



Police aren't pigs.



I don't recognize the world you claim to live in.

[Ceetar]

then you've got blinders on.

[kcmets]

I imagine this will get split but I'll ask here.



Ceets, there are like 800,000-1,000,000 police officers in the country.

They're all pigs to you?

[Ceetar]

in their capacity as police officers? yes. we had a whole worldwide summer of protest about this.

[kcmets]

Ok, thanks for clarifying your feelings.

[Bob Alpacadaca]

the scumbag of a former cop, who's solution to fake crime statistics is to harass homeless people, was relevant to the conversation, as he's got sway in what happens here. Just the "he approves of the stadium" is relevant because there are only so many things you can put there, and mentioning one without talking about the affordable housing (you know, to put the homeless people you're trying to kill in) or the school, is relevant. This is NYC real estate, they're going to be fighting to maximize revenue/profit/riches/power and schools and affordable housing are roadblocks to them that they'd like to avoid, the only thing standing in the way is government regulations that are supposed to help protect citizens, but as we've seen from our favorite ex-cop asshole who lives in NJ, he doesn't care about them.

Hot takes, unburdened by the weight of truth. Like Twitter.

[Gwreck]

The suggestion in the Real Deal article that a new 25k soccer stadium would be able to host World Cup games is laughable.

[Ceetar]

the real deal is just working off the post rumor right? It's apparently based off a PR pitch from Melinda Katz.



https://www.fieldofschemes.com/2022/07/28/19064/is-nycfc-building-a-stadium-in-queens-reply-hazy-try-again-later/https://www.fieldofschemes.com/2022/07/28/19064/is-nycfc-building-a-stadium-in-queens-reply-hazy-try-again-later/





here's a decent article that breaks down what this means. (spoiler, nothing, it's the post)

so let's leave it at this: Where there's the vague hint of smoke, sometimes there's fire, and sometimes there's just the feeble remnants of responsible journalism being burned to the ground in search of clicks.

It, btw, links to this https://gothamist.com/news/how-a-mythical-soccer-stadium-became-queens-biggest-political-futbolgothamist post with a lot more "facts" about the situation, which at this point is 3.5 years old but has a nice breakdown of all the underhanded nonsense real estate/political channel/etc stuff going on. A lot has changed, Covid, etc, but nothing substantial.







tl:dr is basically the people that want the stadium, the money, the go ahead to build, (Wilpon et al) are using the Post to push their agenda.

[kcmets]

=Gwreck post_id=101344 time=1659013035 user_id=56]
The suggestion in the Real Deal article that a new 25k soccer stadium would be able to host World Cup games is laughable.

[metsmarathon]

yeah, i mean, any world cup games that happen in "ny" will be obviously happening in nj, in the meadowlands. duh. unless it's the jets and not nyfc that get a new stadium in queens. not in some quaint little indoor arena.