Embarrassing Competitive Disadvantage

[Edgy MD]

Being more condescending is not helping. It's just a bad play.

[Ceetar]

so is responding to facts with _no, that's definitely wrong_



But go ahead, call me condescending for posting facts and getting bristly when they're ignored instead of just bowing out and admitting you were wrong.

[Edgy MD]

so is responding to facts with _no, that's definitely wrong_

"So is..." nothing. This is two wrongs make a right logic. Please don't use that.

But go ahead, call me condescending for posting facts and getting bristly when they're ignored instead of just bowing out and admitting you were wrong.

No, that's not why I used that descriptor. You certainly know that.

[Ceetar]

stop tone shaming me because I got snippy because I bothered to look something up to cite it and got ignored. There are no rules of engagement, I"ll use whatever damn tone I like.



The Mets could fucking have the Goodyear blimp hover over Citi Field with the names of the unvaccinated players, and hell, the rest of the Tier 1 staff, on rotation if they wanted to.

[Edgy MD]

Oh, yes, there are rules of engagement. I wrote them.



Really, the first is to not be awful. It's not hard and it's certainly not too much to ask.

[batmagadanleadoff]

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If a player wants to get the vaccine on their own and not tell the team, they're welcome to do that, and the team can't demand the medical record, but they CAN demand proof of vaccination so a bit of a catch 22 there.

[MFS62]

ESPN reporting that Aaron Judge is under "COVID protocol."

Later

[Ceetar]

ESPN reporting that Aaron Judge is under "COVID protocol." Later

sue them

[batmagadanleadoff]

ESPN reporting that Aaron Judge is under "COVID protocol." Later sue them

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[Frayed Knot]

If ESPN is merely reporting on things already reported by others (which is what they often do while trying to claim credit as the source anyway) then they couldn't be held responsible for crossing the lines no matter what the rules are.



Newly on the NYY Covid IL are Judge, Higoshioka, and Urshela.

Neither of the other two were in Denver this week AFAIK

[batmagadanleadoff]

Frayed Knot wrote: If ESPN is merely reporting on things already reported by others (which is what they often do while trying to claim credit as the source anyway) then they couldn't be held responsible for crossing the lines no matter what the rules are. Newly on the NYY Covid IL are Judge, Higoshioka, and Urshela. Neither of the other two were in Denver this week AFAIK

Assuming for the sake of this post that the media does not have the right to publicize a person's medical records without that person's consent, ESPN could be liable for reporting private and confidential medical information that another news outlet already reported. One could even make the legal argument that ESPN should bear even greater liability if its circulation is far greater than that of the original broadcaster.

Edited July 16, 2021 by Guest

[batmagadanleadoff]

Frayed Knot wrote: If ESPN is merely reporting on things already reported by others (which is what they often do while trying to claim credit as the source anyway) then they couldn't be held responsible for crossing the lines no matter what the rules are. Newly on the NYY Covid IL are Judge, Higoshioka, and Urshela. Neither of the other two were in Denver this week AFAIK Assuming for the sake of this post that the media does not have the right to publicize a person's medical records without that person's consent, ESPN could be liable for reporting private and confidential medical information that another news outlet already reported. One could even make the legal argument that ESPN should bear even greater liability if its circulation is far greater than that of the original broadcaster.

What would be the logic for it suddenly being open season for all media outlets to publish confidential information just because one outlet erred?

[Benjamin Grimm]

Well, I guess that instead of reporting that a particular player has COVID, ESPN can report that The Daily Siftings Herald in Arkadelphia, Arkansas is reporting that the player has COVID.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Well, I guess that instead of reporting that a particular player has COVID, ESPN can report that The Daily Siftings Herald in Arkadelphia, Arkansas is reporting that the player has COVID.

Well, my post was just a hypo. It appears that the media isn't bound by HIPAA rules. (nods to Ceets) Which makes sense, intuitively. It sounds fair for the press to report that so and so has Covid. My post really applies to something like libel, or some factually incorrect statement that is legally harmful to somebody.

[Edgy MD]

Reporting that somebody is unavailable due to COVID protocols is pretty much what's been going on all along the last two seasons. I'm not sure why it's remarkable at this point.



It doesn't mean that somebody has COVID, but it places that possibility high on a very short list of likelihoods. Folks can and will draw their own conclusions, and maybe the player will elect to be more forthcoming, and life goes on.

[Frayed Knot]

=batmagadanleadoff post_id=71502 time=1626469433 user_id=68]
Assuming for the sake of this post that the media does not have the right to publicize a person's medical records without that person's consent, ESPN could be liable for reporting private and confidential medical information that another news outlet already reported. One could even make the legal argument that ESPN should bear even greater liability if its circulation is far greater than that of the original broadcaster.

[Willets Point]

The Bronx Superspreaders facing an early 3-0 deficit to the Red Sox tonight.

[bmfc1]

Two O's were put on the Covid-IL today. This adds to the MFYs, Phillies, and Rockies who had to recently take the same action. The Covid rate is getting worse and I'd like to think that more of our guys would get the vaccine but it doesn't appear that they will.



Nola returns to the Phillies this week after getting Covid and still refuses to get the shot. I read that the Phillies are only at 50% vaccinated.

[bmfc1]

From The Athletic, today:

[bLOCKQUOTE]MLB this season tried to incentivize teams to get vaccinated by introducing relaxed restrictions for clubs whose “Tier 1” personnel, which includes players and coaches, were at least 85 percent vaccinated. Twenty-four of 30 teams reached that mark during the season (although after June, only one new team, the Phillies, joined the ranks). The six teams that remained below the 85 percent threshold were the Cubs, Diamondbacks, Mariners, Mets, Royals and Red Sox. Overall, 87 percent of Tier 1 staff in the sport were vaccinated by season's end, per MLB's count.

https://theathletic.com/2875451/2021/10/07/mlb-fined-140-players-for-mask-violations-in-2021-every-appeal-was-denied-irking-some-players/https://theathletic.com/2875451/2021/10/07/mlb-fined-140-players-for-mask-violations-in-2021-every-appeal-was-denied-irking-some-players/

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Selfish assholes. Yeah, I'm talking about my team.

[Edgy MD]

I'm wondering how much of that 15+% was represented by the now-cleaned-out coaching staff.