Collins’s Ass Leaves the Jackpot Altogether

[G-Fafif]

Special assistant, advisor, what have you Terry Collins says he's retired.



https://sny.tv/articles/former-mets-manager-and-advisor-terry-collins-says-i-m-retired-https://sny.tv/articles/former-mets-manager-and-advisor-terry-collins-says-i-m-retired-

[Centerfield]

Wasn't a great manager, but seemed like a great guy who genuinely cared. Agonized over the decision to leave Santana in. Spoke from the heart during the ass in the jackpot video. “MLB did nothing to him!” You can't fake that.



I didn't like how the Wilpons pinned all the blame on him just so they could hire Callaway and pretend that all the ills of the prior year had been cured. For what is worth, nothing helped Collins as much as being followed by that wooden surly baboon.



Wish he had lifted Harvey after the walk, but thankful to him for the years he put into this organization.

[Marshmallowmilkshake]

Terry needs to be in the Mets Hall of Fame.

[Centerfield]

MMM, are you new?

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

Terry was about a hundred times better than I thought he would be.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

I didn't like how the Wilpons pinned all the blame on him just so they could hire Callaway and pretend that all the ills of the prior year had been cured. For what is worth, nothing helped Collins as much as being followed by that wooden surly baboon.

By the way this isn't the right read on this at all.



Callaway was Sandy's guy, and firing Terry was Sandy's idea. Hiring Terry back as an advisor-- along with letting Riccardo walk and getting Omar back, was part of Fred's revenge for having gotten Mickey. Forcing Sandy out and leaving Mickey to twist in the wind was the second part. This is why Terry is vamoosing now.



Fred loved nothing more than sucking up to "white-haired baseball men" because he believed he was one of them. He's surely would have been a sucker for Terry's saltiness and Michigan bloodlines.

[Centerfield]

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: I didn't like how the Wilpons pinned all the blame on him just so they could hire Callaway and pretend that all the ills of the prior year had been cured. For what is worth, nothing helped Collins as much as being followed by that wooden surly baboon. By the way this isn't the right read on this at all. Callaway was Sandy's guy, and firing Terry was Sandy's idea. Hiring Terry back as an advisor-- along with letting Riccardo walk and getting Omar back, was part of Fred's revenge for having gotten Mickey. Forcing Sandy out and leaving Mickey to twist in the wind was the second part. This is why Terry is vamoosing now. Fred loved nothing more than sucking up to "white-haired baseball men" because he believed he was one of them. He's surely would have been a sucker for Terry's saltiness and Michigan bloodlines.

Interesting. Wasn't aware of Sandy being the one promoting Mickey. Though I do remember Terry being touted as "Fred's guy". Was speaking more to the marketing that winter. Where the focus seemed to be on Mickey being able to get more out of the guys we had rather than actually bringing in better guys.

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

Here's the famous Mets Name Mickey Manager Thread where it's noted that Jeff "looks like a guy who didn't get his first choice"



http://archives.thecranepool.net/26100/f1_t26144.shtmlhttp://archives.thecranepool.net/26100/f1_t26144.shtml



and give it up for your drinkin' buddy Johnny Luchbucket who in October of 2017 said:

Terry being Fred's buddy and a "specical assistant" is right out of Wilpon recipe book for front-office dysfunction, so maybe Sandy selects the guy least likely to be influenced by them/most able to placate them without necessarily doing what they say. I'm not sure offhand who that is.

http://archives.thecranepool.net/26100/f1_t26139.shtmlhttp://archives.thecranepool.net/26100/f1_t26139.shtml

[TransMonk]

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: Terry was about a hundred times better than I thought he would be.

I'm here. Coincidentally, news must have leaked that he got the job exactly 10 years ago today. Facebook reminded me that I was "doubtful yet hopeful" about the news.

[Centerfield]

Johnny Lunchbucket wrote: I didn't like how the Wilpons pinned all the blame on him just so they could hire Callaway and pretend that all the ills of the prior year had been cured. For what is worth, nothing helped Collins as much as being followed by that wooden surly baboon. By the way this isn't the right read on this at all. Callaway was Sandy's guy, and firing Terry was Sandy's idea. Hiring Terry back as an advisor-- along with letting Riccardo walk and getting Omar back, was part of Fred's revenge for having gotten Mickey. Forcing Sandy out and leaving Mickey to twist in the wind was the second part. This is why Terry is vamoosing now. Fred loved nothing more than sucking up to "white-haired baseball men" because he believed he was one of them. He's surely would have been a sucker for Terry's saltiness and Michigan bloodlines.

I found the thread. If Mickey really was Sandy's guy, then Sandy might have some explaining to do. I don't know how much he knew, but this is strike two. (Or strike one depending on how you count).

[Johnny Lunchbucket]

Yeah I addressed this in the other thread. I may have misread Sandy's role in supporting Mickey's candidacy. Another twitter guy this morning (in fact one of the MBJG soldiers who quit in protest) suggests the hiring of Mickey was rushed despite not having interviewed well because the Phillies wanted him. In this case the undermining of Sandy was a double-Wilpon effort but they had cross purposes