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Jon Heyman on FAN says Griffey, Jr. to the White Sox is a done deal.

Easley - 2.5 Anderson - 1.5 Reyes - 1 Muniz - 0.75 Sanchez - 0.5 Schneider - 0.5 Tatis - 0.5

I think its Shea. Rightfield wall:

="Gwreck"] vs SD Tue Aug 5 - Pelfrey v. Cha Seung Baek Wed Aug 6 - Pedro v. Jake Peavy Thu Aug 7 - Santana v. Greg Maddux I hope the Mets remember what happened in San Diego in early June and exact some revenge on the Friars. I've got a small personal stake in this upcoming series. My dad lives in San Diego and had some fairly serious cancer surgery in late April. I went out there to see him through it and just make sure I saw him because there was a question as to whether or not he would get through the operation. After he came out of the surgery and it was apparent that all was well and his prognosis was excellent, I planned a little event to celebrate his return to good health. His doctor said that he should back to normal and able to get around within 6 weeks of the surgery. Coincidentally, the Mets were scheduled to be in San Diego at about that same time. Dad's wife has a large family of her own. They are great folks and have received my father into their family as if he were their father. During the hospital stay they could not have been more supportive of him, myself or my sister. They were really great. So I wanted to do something to celebrate his recovery and thank them all for being there for him when my sister and I were 3,000 miles away. I called the Padres and booked a suite at Petco for the last of the 4 game set. Dad was thrilled - he loves shit like that. He was able to invite friends of his and act the host and thank everybody for everything. It was a really fun time and everybody had a blast. Unfortunately, as we all remember too well, that was the game in which Billy Wagner served up a 3 run homer to Tony Clark. You remember that series - the Mets lost the previous 3 by scores of 2-1, 2-1 and, oh yeah - 2-1. I was in San Diego for the whole series. I got to read the San Diego Tribune sports section all weekend - Pods outpitch Mets AGAIN!. It was good for everybody in the suite because they were all Padres fans and it was a great ending to a game for them, the lowly Padres swept the high-falutin' Mets, etc., etc. In the end, it was fine. However - I am not a Padres fan and my son - who accompanied me on that trip - is also not a Padres fan. I've been hearing about that series for the past two months - "Hey, remember that game? That was GREAT! Beginning of the end for Randolph..." I think the Mets owe me this one.

themetfairy wrote: Is it possible that someone is listening to us? Absolutely no chance of that whatsoever.

Those are some serious fucking choppers, man.

Yeah - I don't know what to tell you - that's what the man said.

I read that a few days ago and wondered why Peterson would say that to Pelfrey. I know that after Peterson left he was asked what he was most proud of during his time with the Mets and his answer was that he was proud of the fact that pitching staff suffered no major injuries while he was there. With all we are reading about the change-up (or 'cambio' as Mr. Hernandez likes to call it) being introduced to young Dominican pitchers as an alternative to the elbow-damaging curve, perhaps Peterson's motivation had more to do with keeping Pelfrey healthy.

Valadius wrote: Tiger's first name is Eldrick. Elwood is much funnier.

duan wrote: I wouldn't want a totally energised Manny Ramirez 99 miles down the road in Philly I see what you're saying but Manny's been off his game so far this year (for Manny). He couldn't do any more damage to the Mets head-to-head than Burrell does anyway. And Burrell is 31 while Manny is 36. You have to think that Manny would want at least one of his option years guaranteed (at $20M) and that may hamper the Phils making moves down the road. I look at it as an even trade with the added benefit of the whacko factor being infused into the Phillie clubhouse. I don't think it would improve the Phillies and has the potential to mess with the chemistry of a winning ballclub. I'm not outright advocating it, but it wouldn't really worry me.

Well, I hope they do it. As Frayed Knot said, Ramirez and Burrell are having similar years. The Phils are 1/2 game out. If they want to mess with their chemistry without adding a significant upgrade over Burrell (so far this season), then more power to them.

These rumors won't die. People are saying Manny to the Phillies is quite possible with Burrell going the other way. I don't know why Phillie would make that deal.

Well, they say he'll miss one start but with two off days in the coming week or so they won't have to replace him in the rotation. I guess Omar could be holding his cards close to his vest in case he's trying to get a starter before the deadline and doesn't want to be held up. Sort of like dealing for Roberto Hernandez before news of Duaner's injury leaked....?

Perez - 3.25 Beltran - 1.5 Heilman - 1.5 Delgado - 1.25 Wagner - 1 Wright - 1 Evans - 0.5

="G-Fafif":2kk1ar2g]Aren't "box seats," with the bars separating you from those in front of or behind or next to you, kind of archaic at this point? Perhaps they won't be configured the same way as Shea's (what with the advances in construction over the past 45 years) or perhaps they're just using familiar terminology. I don't think you really see them in the newer parks.[/quote:2kk1ar2g] We've got 1 box (4 seats) in the field level at Shea. It is a classic box - 2 in front, 2 right behind with a metal bar on three sides. They tell us that next year we'll have four seats in a comparable area but they will be four in a row, side to side. I'm guessing the classic box seats won't exist at Citi. SteveJRogers Jul 29 2008 08:41 PM ="Benjamin Grimm":3kdhwgrm]You'll find me in the Promenade. I just hope that I can continue to buy seats two or three days before the game. I'm not too optimistic on that point, at least not for the first year or two that the stadium is open.[/quote:3kdhwgrm] StubHub, Craig's List or Ebay might be the best best Vic Sage Jul 30 2008 08:51 AM Promenade Club seats, Row 3. 2 seats, please, for weekend games. Thanks. Gwreck Jul 31 2008 10:06 AM I generally despise what Wallace Matthews writes, but here[/url:i92l8bbe], I generally agree with him. AG/DC Jul 31 2008 10:11 AM I don't buy that "true New Yorker" garbage at all. metirish Jul 31 2008 10:19 AM It makes for some stark reading . soupcan Jul 31 2008 10:28 AM I agree with Matthews. MLB seems to be trying to position itself as a luxury item or status symbol. As Joe Middle Income - the passionate fan - gets pushed out, interest will begin to wane among the corporate drones in attendence who aren't there for the game anyway. Eventually MLB will have difficulty filling those seats at those prices. It's already started. I know for a fact that one of the top brokerage firms gave up 4 premier seats that they had at Shea for at least the last 20 years solely because of Citi Field's price hike. Benjamin Grimm Jul 31 2008 10:36 AM Well, hopefully demand will go down, thereby pushing prices down. You have to think, though, that the next time the Mets have a season like 1993, or even 2003, (and it will happen), nobody's going to want to pay those high prices. We may see games where the lower level seats are nearly empty, and the majority of the fans are sitting in the Promenade. batmagadanleadoff Jul 31 2008 10:36 AM ="soupcan":3i05ouqs]I know for a fact that one of the top brokerage firms gave up 4 premier seats that they had at Shea for at least the last 20 years solely because of Citi Field's price hike.[/quote:3i05ouqs] Me too. Full Season ticket holder for almost 20 years. No more. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jul 31 2008 10:37 AM Yeah, as I was saying before: the Mets and Yanks better hope they sell a lot of these tickets soon, because as I hear this economic fuckdown will continue through the end of '09 at least (that's a guess as to when the worst of the housing fallout passes). It's gonna be bread lines for the USA till then, brother. metirish Jul 31 2008 10:49 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":2h1uuwrt]Yeah, as I was saying before: the Mets and Yanks better hope they sell a lot of these tickets soon, because as I hear this economic fuckdown will continue through the end of '09 at least (that's a guess as to when the worst of the housing fallout passes). It's gonna be bread lines for the USA till then, brother.[/quote:2h1uuwrt] John Mellencamp will be writing songs about how things used to be at old Shea. Nymr83 Jul 31 2008 10:51 AM Wally: ]Someday soon, spending a day at the ballpark will be the equivalent of yachting, playing croquet or pitching darts on the lawn of the family compound, an ultra-costly diversion enjoyed by the rich and privileged, fantasized about by the rest of us what a load of crap. there are still going to be seats under $20, thats by far cheaper than other sports. wally also decides not to point out that unlike the yankees and many other teams, the mets do, and will continue to, allow outside food into the stadium, a pretty significant cost savings for anyone who cares AG/DC Jul 31 2008 11:20 AM It's not about the Mets, or even the Yankees. Demand drives prices up, and that's a fact everywhere. The main issue is on the supply side, even as the economy threatens to reduce demand. G-Fafif Jul 31 2008 12:24 PM Swells who buy season tickets aren't enthusiastic fans based on their being swells? The 4,000 affordable (or most affordable) seats is a scary number. All the numbers are already scary and that's in the present tense. The price on my ticket to see Billy Joel, the rarest and biggest of events for Shea, was actually less than the price on my ticket to see the Mets and Phillies last week, which was one of 81 games, even if it was a fairly big one (I was somebody's Field Level guest or I wouldn't have been sitting there). And it's gonna cost more than that? Even though I know it and have known it, wow. I can see the theoretical comparisons between Citi and MSG (all sold out to alleged corporate stooges), except there are twice as many baseball games as basketball games and Citi is twice as big as the Garden. Novelty does wear off -- April and May weeknights take up a lot of the season -- and an aftermarket infrastructure is in place, one that sometimes provides an in at relative (relative) bargain prices. It's a shame it has to be that way, but it appear it is that way. It's laughable that the "team of the people" all but dismisses walkup sales as a relic and isn't particularly interested in accommodating (that is taking money from) partial plan holders. One way or another, life will be different. Gwreck Aug 14 2008 12:06 PM The NY Post had a story on the prices.[/url:3bny65jv] Notably, they are reporting a $19 pricepoint for promenade reserved, but I suspect that may be promenade reserved outfield and not infield. batmagadanleadoff Aug 27 2008 02:03 PM Yesterday, I ran into someone I know only casually and not all that well. What I do know about him is that for the past 10-15 years at least, he owned a pair of Shea Stadium field box season tickets very close to the Mets dugout. He's not renewing. According to him, He's "no Fortune 500 corporation and the Wilpons don't want fans in the stands anymore". Gwreck Aug 29 2008 09:44 PM In an interesting development, the other New York team announced its pricing structure today. In addition to offering full season tickets, they are offering 41, 20, 15, 12 and 11 game plans, all with postseason options (although only the 41 game plan has a guaranteed postseason option. Pricing, seating chart, etc. is here:http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/nyy/ballpark/new_stadium_ticket_license_plans.jsp AG/DC Aug 29 2008 09:45 PM ="batmagadanleadoff":24dz924q]According to him, He's "no Fortune 500 corporation and the Wilpons don't want fans in the stands anymore".[/quote:24dz924q] What does he do? themetfairy Oct 20 2008 02:08 PM I received a letter today that contained the following - ]We are pleased to advise that we will have a selection of Ticket Plan offerings at Citi Field for our loyal Ticket Plan account holders prior to the general public. Two 40-game and five 15-fame Plans will enable us to accommodate each 2008 Ticket Plan holder with a Ticket Plan purchase opportunity for our Inaugural Season at Citi Field. We will communicate these offerings to you in the weeks ahead. So it looks like the Sunday Only plan is a thing of the past. Benjamin Grimm Oct 20 2008 02:11 PM One of those five 15-game plans might be heavily oriented towards Sundays. The way I figure it, there are probably 13 home Sunday games on the schedule. Maybe one of the plans is 13 Sundays plus two "bonus" games. Please let us know when you find out more. themetfairy Oct 20 2008 02:17 PM Will do! Gwreck Oct 20 2008 03:13 PM I have my doubts about these plans. My worry is that only the 40-game plans will have guaranteed playoff purchase options. I doubt they would do a heavily-Sunday or heavily-Saturday plan; it would seem more likely they'd want to split up the weekend games so that all plans would be equally attractive to the buyers. Also, I wouldn't count on opening day being available in any of the plans. Gwreck Oct 20 2008 03:14 PM ="Benjamin Grimm":2vxwybpt]The way I figure it, there are probably 13 home Sunday games on the schedule. [/quote:2vxwybpt] You don't have to guess! Full 2009 schedule is already available: http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=nym&m=4&y=2009 Nymr83 Oct 20 2008 07:07 PM ]My worry is that only the 40-game plans will have guaranteed playoff purchase options and if more tickets were allocated to the eople who buy 15 game plans, there would be complaints by the people who don't buy any plan about how playoff tickets are unaffordable and unavailable... wawawa etc. The Mets' can't win there. Gwreck Oct 20 2008 07:14 PM ="Nymr83"]]My worry is that only the 40-game plans will have guaranteed playoff purchase options and if more tickets were allocated to the eople who buy 15 game plans, there would be complaints by the people who don't buy any plan about how playoff tickets are unaffordable and unavailable... wawawa etc. The Mets' can't win there. Not true. All they need to do is make a clear announcement and make the ticket allocation more transparent. Regardless, the point isn't that people will complain about playoff tickets being unavailable. The problem is that the Mets may or may not have used sufficient creativity in creating their partial plans. We won't know until the Mets get around to actually telling giving out meaningful information. John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 20 2008 07:35 PM I'd like to make a declaration of interest in buying into a very small part of someone's 40-game plan. I don't think I can afford or commit to more than a small handful next year, ISO same, etc etc. If there's enough of us... Rockin' Doc Oct 20 2008 07:44 PM Is it just me, or does anyone else find the concern over the availability of Mets playoff tickets be almost as pointless as Detroit Lion fans worrying about their access to Super Bowl tickets? It's probably just me. Watching a good young team like the Rays has made me rather cynical of late. Nymr83 Oct 20 2008 07:47 PM maybe you could try putting a group together on here to buy a 40 game plan (either 2 or 4 seats) and then divide up the games. John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 20 2008 07:53 PM Yeah, that's what I'm saying but I need someone who 1) is receiving this offer and 2) Can be trusted to cut the giant check. Nymr83 Oct 20 2008 08:07 PM i'm in a for a few (3-5) games as well if anyone wants to do this. Fman99 Oct 20 2008 08:28 PM ="Nymr83":27g5374t]i'm in a for a few (3-5) games as well if anyone wants to do this.[/quote:27g5374t] You could do a proportional buy-in, rate the cost per game, and divvy it up where any potential attendee could buy in even for 1-2 games. We probably won't go to more than 1-2 next year given the cost and distance. Fman99 Oct 20 2008 08:28 PM Oops double post. themetfairy Oct 20 2008 08:31 PM A complicating point is that, even within a plan, not all games are priced evenly. With my Sunday plan last year, the prices varied tremendously depending on what color coded ticket price applied to the date. Gwreck Oct 20 2008 08:56 PM I have a friend who does this with his Mariners season ticket group. I think they have something like 8 or 10 seats now but the concept stays the same: You have to buy in pairs; People commit to a set number of games at the start of the season; Snake-order draft to see who gets what games (ie. A, B, C, D, D, C, B, A); Draft position is determined by random chance; When it's your turn in the draft, you can take any game you want that's available (knowing that some games -- ie. Yankees, July weekends, etc -- cost more than others -- ie. April weeknights) Playoff games are determined by lottery, weighted by how many games in the plan you purchased. John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 20 2008 09:15 PM In Gwreck Oct 20 2008 09:20 PM I'd like to be "in" but I doubt that I can be the one to "cut the big check" unfortunately... John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 20 2008 09:21 PM Specially if you intend to collect from me. Nymr83 Oct 20 2008 11:04 PM i'm not sure who here can "cut the big check" or who would be willing to even admit it if they could. we could collect at least some money beforehand, or we could look at a 15-game plan to split up instead of a 40, it really all depends on how much interest we have. themetfairy Oct 21 2008 05:12 AM If it helps, they accept credit card payment for tickets. That just means that someone has a large enough credit limit to handle the transaction and trusts everyone else enough to pony up their share quickly. Fman99 Oct 21 2008 06:45 AM ="Gwreck":f4a68j0e]I have a friend who does this with his Mariners season ticket group. I think they have something like 8 or 10 seats now but the concept stays the same: You have to buy in pairs; People commit to a set number of games at the start of the season; Snake-order draft to see who gets what games (ie. A, B, C, D, D, C, B, A); Draft position is determined by random chance; When it's your turn in the draft, you can take any game you want that's available (knowing that some games -- ie. Yankees, July weekends, etc -- cost more than others -- ie. April weeknights) Playoff games are determined by lottery, weighted by how many games in the plan you purchased.[/quote:f4a68j0e] Yep. My cousin and her husband are in a group in the DC area that does this with four Nats season tickets. Benjamin Grimm Oct 21 2008 06:57 AM Are you guys talking about splitting up a 40 or a 15? And how many seats for each game? And how much would the "big check" be for? John Cougar Lunchbucket Oct 21 2008 07:09 AM 2 tixx for 40 games at Citifield would be 3 grand or something at least? soupcan Oct 21 2008 07:52 AM I got two tix for all 81 games in whatever they are calling the upper deck. Don't yet know whether they are in left or right. I gave them a $250.00 deposit per ticket and they will contact me at some future date to let me know where I'll be. The total cost will be about $1,500.00 each. I'm sure I won't even be close to using all of them so if anybody's interested in taking a few off my hands, that's cool. Kong76 Oct 23 2008 02:45 PM I read thread quickly and see 81 and 40 games plans mentioned. I got a letter today that say there will also be five 15 game plans available to people with Mets accounts in the coming weeks ahead. If I can get a 15 game plan I'd be super happy and also willing to share or just meet for some games. Kong76 Oct 23 2008 03:04 PM Re-reading, I didn't go far enough back ... I can't keep up lately. I'll be happy to be offered something is where I was going with this, I really thought most plan holders were going to be left out completely. (and that may have been the original plan before we all became poorer the last couple of months) sharpie Oct 23 2008 03:59 PM I'd be in for buying into a larger plan. Or buying some Soup tix. Vic Sage Oct 24 2008 01:51 PM me, too. soupcan Oct 24 2008 02:02 PM Great, I'll keep you all posted. Farmer Ted Nov 12 2008 11:39 AM Doesn't look like Boston is going after any high-priced free agents. That, or they have a ton of cash stuffed away. BOSTON (AP) -- For the first time in 14 years, the Boston Red Sox aren't increasing any ticket prices at Fenway Park for the 2009 season. Prices range from $12 to $125 for tickets bought after Dec. 17. There is a discount for earlier purchases once tickets go on sale Dec. 13. Red Sox President Larry Lucchino says the team knows that fans are facing challenging economic times and wanted to give them a break. Fans with contracts for premium seats can keep their ticket prices the same if they agree to extend those contracts for one year. The team plans to add about 350 seats at Fenway Park before next season. themetfairy Nov 26 2008 01:20 PM Here are the Partial Season Ticket Plans[/url:205v8hxo]. Partial season ticket holders can make their purchases based on a seniority system. I'm not a long term season ticket holder, so I have to wait until December 10th to purchase my tickets. Gwreck Nov 26 2008 01:28 PM I don't think seniority has anything to do with it -- I think it's based on what you had in 2008. Order is: 1. Full Season Holders from 2008 who did not renew for a Full Season 2009 2. Weekday Plan Holders from 2008 3. Mini and Tuesday/Friday plan holders from 2008 4. Saturday and Sunday plan holders from 2008 Kong76 Nov 26 2008 02:34 PM Got the email earlier and the regular letter just now. Seems to me that if I log at 10am on 12/5 I should be able to get my single seat Sunday ticket and if I got lucky I could get two extra seats? I mean really, if they can't give me one seat after 5-6 years of full season and another 5 or so of plan seasons they can gobble my turkey neck and lick my giblets. themetfairy Nov 26 2008 03:10 PM If Kase can log in on 12/5, then seniority does matter. Kong76 Nov 26 2008 03:24 PM I'll post an image of the letter I got a little later. Kong76 Nov 26 2008 04:25 PM Gwreck Nov 26 2008 10:49 PM ="themetfairy":2gwrrk6t]If Kase can log in on 12/5, then seniority does matter.[/quote:2gwrrk6t] Indeed. Can't believe the Mets managed to get that one right (!). SI Metman Nov 26 2008 11:26 PM yep, I've only been a Sunday plan holder for 2 1/2 years and got the 10th on my letter. Fortunately they are sparing us from going to the last Sunday game in '09. Kong76 Dec 05 2008 08:15 AM Scored two seats, Sun+ plan, front row of the highest level, in the outfield. mezzman is now promresman Vic Sage Dec 05 2008 09:53 AM my friend can't buy tix till the 12th. shoot. themetfairy Dec 05 2008 09:56 AM ="Vic Sage":f2arzhqv]my friend can't buy tix till the 12th. shoot.[/quote:f2arzhqv] It's nice to know that I have priority over somebody.

Matter. Of. Time.

Tatis - 2 Maine - 1.25 Easley - 1 Sanchez - 1 Feliciano - 0.5

Santana - 5 Tatis - 1.5 Wright - 1.5 Beltran - 1 Castro - 1

I was at this one - 5/30/1978. Silvio Martinez Major League debut. A complete game 1 hitter against the Mets, the only hit being a Steve Henderson solo homerun.

Nope, not Cavaliere. I met him once. He's tall, Italian-looking with a long narrow face.

Delgado - 3 Reyes - 2 Tatis - 2 Wagner - 1.5 Feliciano - .5 Heilman - .5 Schoenweis - .5

Could just be a bad picture, but she's kinda scary.

Reported on FAN this morning - Dan Karstens and Jeff McCutchens replace the other two no-name minor leaguers and join Tabata in Pittsburgh. Don't know how highly regarded those guys are but hopefully that hurts the Yankees more.

Pelfrey - 3.75 Degado - 1.5 Chavez - 1 Wright - 1 AReyes - 1.25 Reyes - 1.25 Heilman - .25

Hampton scheduled to toe the slab -v- Hamels today.