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Ceetar wrote: eh. if that's the case it behooves the Wilpons to keep him. And Einhorn has no say. You're forgetting that the Wilpons may not be able to keep him.

kaboom...?

Ashie62 wrote: Ask Einhorn. He has 5 weeks to make up his mind. You know, it's not so far-fetched to think that it may behoove Einhorn to support a trade. The guy wants to be the majority owner. The path to ownership for him is dependent on the current ownership not being able to afford the team and/or be able to return his $200,000,000.00. If Reyes stays, it would stand to reason that the team would be more successful than if he leaves. More successful team = more revenue for current ownership = higher probability that they can pay him back = no majority ownership for Einhorn. Now the flipside could be that Einhorn thinks the Wilpon/Katzes are going to come out on the short end of Picard's lawsuit anyway and reaping the benefits of that, having a player like Reyes on HIS team would be a favorable thing. Just saying that we, as fans, should not assume that Einhorn is Jose's (and our) white knight

Don't trade Reyes....!

That's a radical statement from me too. I've been disappointed in a lot of things the Mets have done over the years but I never considered 86-ing them (see what I did there?). Just the fact that I said it, is a huge deal. I'm a dyed-in-the-wool fan - as are we all, otherwise why the hell would we be 'here'? - and I spend a lot of money on that team. For me to consider this...? Well let's just say management should take what Olney said seriously.

Reyes is the player I had been waiting all of my Met fan life to arrive. He is everything a fan could want. Good guy, great player, home-grown. I've been so irritated at the prospect that that they may trade/not re-sign him. Especially seeing the numbers he's been putting up this year. If he does get traded or they do not make a sincere effort to retain him, I could see myself walking away from the Mets unless and until there would be a new ownership structure in place.

It was sort of a test-run for MLS/Wilpons-as-owners/Cosmos redux combo platter. Check it: June 7, 2011 Citi Field Welcomes Soccer By JORGE CASTILLO For the first time in weeks, fans occupied nearly every seat at Citi Field on Tuesday night. Only this time vuvuzelas, not �Take Me Out to the Ballgame,� resonated throughout the ballpark, and yellow, not blue, was the dominant color in the stands. Citi Field�s baseball diamond and outfield were converted into a soccer field for the first time in the stadium�s two-plus-year history for an international friendly between Ecuador and Greece. While thousands of fans � most of them clad in bright yellow in support of Ecuador � congregated at the Mets� park, the game had larger implications than as a simple national-team tuneup. The match was the first in Queens since Colombia and Slovakia played a scoreless tie at Shea Stadium in August 2003, and it shifted the soccer scene in the metropolitan area from northern New Jersey to New York City for at least one night. All signs point to that continuing in the future. Before Ecuador and Greece played to a 1-1 tie in front of 39,656, the Mets executive vice president Dave Howard said Citi Field would also host a friendly between �two very well-known professional club teams, one from Europe and one from Central America,� this summer. He expects an announcement to be made within the next week. �We�re excited about hosting events like this, but we certainly intend to make money,� Howard said. �That�s all part of the motivation of doing events like this.� The developments come at a time when Major League Soccer is moving to expand to New York City, with Flushing the likely destination for the league�s second team in the area. The Red Bulls, the area�s only M.L.S. team, play their home games at the 25,000-seat, $200 million Red Bull Arena in Harrison, N.J. �We remain focused on securing a 20th team for Major League Soccer in New York,� the M.L.S. spokesman Dan Courtemanche said via e-mail. �We do not have a set time frame on when we will add a 20th team. Our goal is to have a second team in N.Y. at the earliest opportunity. The N.Y. market is a priority, but it may take a couple of years before we have the team and stadium finalized.� Mets ownership, led by Fred Wilpon, has discussed the possibility of owning a club with the M.L.S. commissioner, Don Garber, over the last few years. Howard said the sides had talked again �recently.� But an M.L.S. club operated by Wilpon may be unlikely given his financial issues the last few months, and Garber has said that there were other ownership groups interested, including a group that has bought the rights to the Cosmos name and is aggressively seeking a team in M.L.S. One obstacle is the lack of a soccer stadium in Queens as teams across M.L.S. have moved away from all-purpose stadiums. �Our focus is on a soccer-specific stadium for a second New York team,� Courtemanche added. �That is the key issue. We do not have a location yet, but we do believe Queens would be a very successful location.� Howard said both matches at Citi Field would give a good indication of how receptive the marketplace would be to another team in the area. M.L.S. has added four teams in the past three years � Seattle in 2009, Philadelphia in 2010, and Vancouver and Portland this year � and will expand to Montreal in 2012. Garber has named South Florida, Atlanta, San Diego, Arizona, Las Vegas, Detroit and San Antonio as other possible destinations for future M.L.S. teams.

They also moved tomorrow's game (June 4th) from an afternoon game to a night game.

Ceetar wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: Where is the hot pastrami stand? LF. to the right of Keith's burger. Walk from home plate, past Jason Bay, climb the wall and right about there. Ooooh...on my to-do list!

Favorite food items at the park - - Double Shack Burger w/ cheese - Shake Shack - BBQ Bologna Sandwich - Blue Smoke (try it one time before you scoff, non-believers...) - Korean Fried Chicken w/ Garlic Sauce - World Fair Market

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I agree. I don't think there are any additional numbers that ought to be retired, but if they were to retire a number, it should be 17. If they decide to retire 8, they could do a couple of things - They could present the situation to Carter and let him decide whether he would like them to retire his number now. If he gave them the go-ahead then it's not insensitive. To get around the '17 or 8' question, they could retire both numbers together in the same ceremony. I suppose Mex might feel slighted at having to share the ceremony but then again, maybe not.

Opening Day 1985. 'Nuff said.

Don't knock it till you try it. Sitting at the bar in the Acela Club sipping a Woodford Reserve and watching the game through the glass ain't too shabby an experience.

3,000 and he'll pitch a no-hitter.

28 yrs. old, second on the all-time hits list and they're not gonna sign him. Incredible.

G-Fafif wrote: F-Mart sent down. And on cue, Harris winces and limps down to first base. Not so fast F-Mart....

Ceetar wrote: how's this, Chris Swinden will be the second coming of Tom Seaver. There ya go! That's what I'm talking about! I was worried for a second...

Ceetar wrote: *sigh* Maybe it's not serious? It's the Pirates next..you can beat them on one leg.. 'Maybe' it's not serious...? Do I detect a chink in the optimistic armor Ceet...?

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Has better hair than Jeff! Now, if and or when the Wilpons do sell, are we looking at the Mets next majority owner? You've gotta think so, right? I don't think a guy this savvy would throw $200M at the Mets unless there is an opportunity at some future point to purchase more. Reminds me of Mark Cuban - in a good way. Young, wealthy, a personality a fan.

That helps. Thanks.

After 5 it's official, I got that but doesn't each team need to have the same number of half innings afterwards? I'll never understand these official game rules. Sometimes they call it after 5, sometimes they play it over, sometimes they pick it up from where it stopped, sometimes they play til 2 in the morning, sometimes they stop after a certain time. Drives me crazy.

Fman99 wrote: Yay, it's an official game. Impressive adjustment made by Gee to recuperate after that first inning. Cubs have to bat in the bottom of the 6th though, right?

Blink once if Ceetar has a gun to your head.

Ceetar wrote: I don't know why we're making this team out to be a 65 win team again? Are we really that reactionary? Is it really that wrong to think that everything won't fail? That Jason Bay won't hit .201 for his Mets career and that Johan will actually pitch again, and pretty well, in 2012? That Niese will get better or that Thole will look more like 2010 than 2011? Ceet - I appreciate the optimism but like I said, you sound like I did in the 70's man. Nothin' from nothin' leaves nothin'. Thole? Really? And let's add a Bay - George Foster analogy to my previous post (which is really an insult to Foster).

batmagadanleadoff wrote: I'm gonna sign off the CPF for now. I'm probably the last Mets fan you'd wanna have an extended conversation with about Doug Flynn. It's cool, I'm long over it.