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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Zvon wrote: bmfc1 wrote: It seems like Carlos Beltran has a hit in every post-season AB except for one. HAha, don't it? He's freakin unreal but they can stop comparing him to Ruth. PLEASE! At least wait til he's played in a World Series. Then you can go lump em all together. Yeah, I know, right? That's kind of silly, considering the watered-down playoffs and talent pool Ruth played against, isn't it? Its bullshit and the more I hear it the more bullshitty it sounds. Olberman always does a disclaimer but they simply shouldn't go there if the guys never been in a world series. Its ridiculous. It's not working on old fans, its not helping the new fans properly appreciate the game.

themetfairy wrote: Why is Brian Wilson wearing Mr. Met's uniform number? ...and a rubber banded beard? Is that to keep it from flying over his shoulder? 00 and a GIGANTIC beard with a rubberband squeezing it. Could he be any more of an attention whore?

This is a good game. Maybe I should watch a bit of it.

Edgy MD wrote: Why in the world would I be stirring up shit? I see white and I say "white." Yeah, it's not pure white, but it's just off white and it's not particularly green at all and it's very different from anything before or since. Sorry, just stirring up shit myself. Its washed out in the footage. I'll look for a pic of the fence white and I hope I find one, cause that would be pretty kool if it was once. I have collected a lot of pictures of Shea from all years and I've seen the light aqua-green fence but never a white one. Hey, that's from the first week of 67. Is it possible that could be a primer layer that they let sit for a small time before going over? There is no doubt that in the Seaver vid it's the lightest I've ever seen it but I think that's just the way it looked on that film.

bmfc1 wrote: It seems like Carlos Beltran has a hit in every post-season AB except for one. HAha, don't it? He's freakin unreal but they can stop comparing him to Ruth. PLEASE! At least wait til he's played in a World Series. Then you can go lump em all together.

Also in the Seaver vid I think the first few scenes are of practice at Butterball Field. Could it be? On the same reel? The footage: 1967 Regular Season Game 7 April 20, 1967 Mets 6, Cubs 1 The black numbers on the walls. Pete would know.

Dodgers in 7 Tigers in 7

Man, that color, whatever it was, was hideous.

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Zvon wrote: This photo should not be used for an example of the color of anything. The hue is totally out of wack. All the photos from that session are. They are all great photographs, it's a shame. All you gotta do is to look at the Rheingold ad at the top of the scoreboard to see that the colors are off. But even if the colors of that '69 shot are accurate, how does that prove that the early '67 walls were white? The walls were never white. Ed's just stirrin up some shit. Its those black numbers that I'm gonna focus on.When were they, for how long? A whole season? I don't think so. We would have to travel out both ways in time from that Seaver vid. to get the proper time frame. Grotes photo falls in there (but where? It ties to Butterball with the shoes and glove). In Edgy's defense, if he's serious, it does look very white in a few sections of the vid. So, this is Seavers debut in 1967 and the plexiglass bullpens are in place.A Wes Westrum IN ACTION sighting!

This photo should not be used for an example of the color of anything. The hue is totally out of wack. All the photos from that session are. They are all great photographs, it's a shame.

The OF wall at Shea was never white. It was a pale flat very light green when it opened in '64 and stayed that way for sometime. But what you mentioned about being a distraction to the batter, I think the light green would have the same effect and its surprising they were allowed to have it that color for any period of time. Now the wall numbers in the Seaver vid are the darker type and that's mid game so its not mid paint-job. Wonder how long the numbers stayed that way. I bet there's a story there.

Kong76 wrote: batmagadanleadoff wrote: Cool picture! Makes me want a yoohoo! I've never seen the wall with dark numbers. Maybe they are spray painting the fence and have the numbers covered. I would think if the wall was that way for any extended time I would have seen it in a photo by now. But you never know, ya know? They switched from the wall bullpen to the plexi glass bullpen. I found an article about it but it is not dated. What year did this change take place? My guess would be between the 67 and 68 season.

So one thing I'm going to try to do is collect all these pics of players posing at the Sadecki Spot. Some part of that corner area of Butterball Field has to be in the pic to qualify. Galen Cisco with the parking lot, and with Millers cage. I'm gonna say 1965 (don't know). Good close up of the cage early on. Was it for mosquito attacks?

Is this an alt reality where Piazza was never a Met? Mikes bat trumps Jerrys defense. Defensively, yes, I think so. And he was grumpy. I didn't like him cause he got all grumpy on me once. He told me to fuck off. I was like 11 or 12. I thought :what a dick! I should have said that. I would now. But then I just looked like a crushed little kid. But he was probably one of the best catchers of his time, defensively, Met or no. And I've read what you guys have said about his hitting but lemme tell ya, he was clutch. In the biggest spot imaginable he would get his bat on the ball. He would drive it thru a gap. When we really needed a big hit in a close game from the bottom of the lineup, I didn't mind seeing him up at all. He was never considered by anybody to be a hole in the lineup. That Met team knew to make up for his offensive shortcomings in other areas, because what he brought defensively, really, was priceless.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: "At least he went down swinging." -Some Mets "fan," somewhere makes you realize it sucks both ways. Beltran, I forgive you. *switches hats* K, now I'm a Puig fan.

Damn. Downed by junk.

GO PIRATES!

Daaaamn. Pittsburgs season ends like this? That sucks.

The Bucs just need some extra mo-jo. LETS

Damn. Nail.Coffin.

This was a very nerve wracking game. Rose's homer took so much out of the crowd. Him running the bases swinging a fist up in the air. I'll never forget that. After the game 3 fight and bad behavior of one stupid Met fan who, sitting in the mezzanine section right up back behind me, threw a big liquor bottle. Now people were throwing stuff at Rose for a bit as he took left field, cardboard cups, hot dogs still in their wrapper, any kind of paper goods that was throw-able, and it was kinda funny. It almost looked like it was lightly snowing paper debris of all shapes and sizes just over him from that entire corner of the stadium. Then that bottle went flying over my head, and it was like slow motion how it sailed down and bounced on the turf twice and coming to rest at Rose's feet. There was an audible groan from the crowd. Some went very quiet, some went rabid. I was a quiet one. That was way over the line. I looked back, some people were jumping and pointing to the person who threw it, upper mezz off left field. I could not see the specific person. Only heads, everyone was up on their feet. I don't know if anything was done to the person who threw it. It was bedlam at that moment. I'm not sure if Sparky came out first or Rose walked in. IIRC Rose picked up the bottle and began to trot toward the infield. Sparky was coming out of the dugout and gesturing for his team to come off the field. Anderson stood there,at the edge of the infield dirt and waved them in toward the dugout, and the Reds walked off the field. Any way, long story even longer, when Rose was running around the bases, pumping his fist in the air, that was directed towards us fans. No HR pump before or since was so fitting and so real. Rose got us back the best way possible. On the field with his bat.

And an infield single gives Boston the lead. Beany ball.

Mets � Willets Point wrote: Pulling your starter in the second with no runs allowed does seem nuts. That's my kind of managing.

One game seamlessly turns into another. I was half paying attention. Go BUCS! That field Tampa Bay plays on is a disgrace to the game.

Some updated cards that were [crossout]buried[/crossout] added to older pages at the card site. I'll mix it up from time to time with the ol' time tunnel switcheroo.