Ceetar

Edgy DC wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Not quite sure what the Yanx can do to "manipulate" things for Jeter to hit .300 The main reason he's close is that he's hitting over .420 in August. Sit him against the best pitchers. Fabricate a bogus injury when he's at .305. Pay off the official scorer. That sort of thing. They're probably already doing this no?

Frayed Knot wrote: Not quite sure what the Yanx can do to "manipulate" things for Jeter to hit .300 The main reason he's close is that he's hitting over .420 in August. due to a lot of batted ball luck.

metirish wrote: 99.9% sure I just heard Bloomberg say that Saturday and Sunday's games have been cancelled. so the Braves come up to NY for one game, then get three days off at home before playing the Nats. I hope they have to play a doubleheader on the mutual off day. screw 'em.

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Well, the Mets may not need that spot starter on Monday, but, barring additional rainouts, they will need somebody by Thursday, unless they opt to pitch Gee on three days rest, which I doubt. But by Thursday we'll be in September's expanded-roster period. Probably why they brought up Batista instead of Swinden.

Edgy DC wrote: Ceetar wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: And before the game was out, Curtis Granderson chipped in with a 3rd MFY GS of the day. 22-9 was your final. Absolutely pathetic. And it was only Yankee failure in the past two games that lost them those games, A's pitchers weren't exactly fooling anyone then either. Jeter up to freaking .299. I don't know if I can handle the praise storm if he tips .300 even though there's nearly zero chance he finishes there. I'm going to place the likelihood as well above zero. Have faith that the Yankees will do everything they can to manipulate the situation for Jeter's interests. oh, so they can use hyperbole and I can't? ;-)

Not a good showing for University of Buffalo alum Joe Mihalics, drafted in 34th round, flames out by 2007.

MFS62 wrote: Maybe we can cross one name off this list: http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2011/08/25/2011-08-25_yankees_captain_derek_jeter_charlies_angels_star_minka_kelly_split_after_three_y.html Later we expected this once they legalized gay marriage no?

yes, if nothing else Keith's hurricane talk will be entertaining tonight and Sunday if they play.

Ashie62 wrote: bmfc1 wrote: Agreed Ceetar. I saw something about playing a rainout in ATL with the Mets as the home team but the Mets should find a mutual open date and make the Braves fly back to NY. Can they play a DH Saturday? They can, but I think it depends on Fox too.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: I have tickets with YoungerPooper for Saturday. Should I even consider going? you may get two! AND a t-shirt! Seriously, that Fox tidbit might be enough to get me to the park all by itself. tempting, but I'm already going Monday and Thursday likely.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: I have tickets with YoungerPooper for Saturday. Should I even consider going? you may get two! I'd wait as long as you can, but it sounds like it's not going to start raining until late. It's a 4pm start, so should be able to get home before it rains. It's Fox too. I wonder if that's part of the reason the Mets haven't doubleheadered it yet.

Speaking of the weekend, with Sunday's game likely rained out, the Mets are under no obligation to make it easy for the Braves. They certainly didn't back it easy for us back in April.

Frayed Knot wrote: And before the game was out, Curtis Granderson chipped in with a 3rd MFY GS of the day. 22-9 was your final. Absolutely pathetic. And it was only Yankee failure in the past two games that lost them those games, A's pitchers weren't exactly fooling anyone then either. Jeter up to freaking .299. I don't know if I can handle the praise storm if he tips .300 even though there's nearly zero chance he finishes there.

Wish I could find some double splits easily, Angel versus LHP since his return from the DL. not that the sample size would likely be very meaningful. I expected to see Hairston in CF a couple of times against tough lefties, but Hairston started out the season worse than Angel.

soupcan wrote: Well that sounds stupid. Why wouldn't a team claim him? Because everyone knows the Mets aren't going to trade him. And they aren't going to give up prospects. And any team that needs a bat probably also has a 3B and doesn't want that issue for next year. And no one's worried about someone else claiming Wright and feels the need to block him from going to another team.

4.2 WAR is pretty good. (and it's cumulative, so it's actually higher if you prorate it for a full year) 7.3 is top of the league. from 2009-2011 among CFers, Pagan is 12th (of 75 that played at least 20% there) in WAR and 19th in OPS. That compares with guys like Carlos Gonzalez and Jacoby Ellsbury.

soupcan wrote: ...claimed by the Rockies and then pulled back by the Mets. So reports WFAN. My question.....um, why? Why not? Your simply toggling the "Tradeable" switch on a player, with no downside. Something like 85% of players are put on waivers in August.

granted it was a last-minute preponement doubleheader in the afternoon, but still, you expect more fans than players. Aren't there enough unemployed/retired people in Miami that are willing to say "Hey, random day baseball game, why not?"

Benjamin Grimm wrote: There's a rumor that Sunday's game may be "preponed." That is, played on Saturday (as part of a doubleheader) instead of Sunday because of the impending hurricane weather. I think it's a good idea; beats having the Braves have to come back to New York on a mutual off day. (I think I read that the last such day remaining is September 8.) Seems like a good idea. They probably want to wait another day or so to have a better idea of the 'cane.

Long 50 hour layover between Mets games. Sabathia faltered in the 8th, blew a 2-1 lead with Robertson's help, but they tied it at 3 in the bottom of the inning until Soriano choked up the game in the 10th. Jeter got some hits, his .458 BABIP in August has him almost at .300 again. (Daniel Murphy's was .345 this year, but Mike Francesa says he was hitting a soft .300. But surely Jeter's isn't a soft .300, it's full of all sorts of intangibles involved with Jeter fighting the big struggle with age and winning, and getting the 3000 hit monkey off his shoulder) Beltran's back for the Giants. he got a hit in the first but didn't score. Arizona won. This is the only real race left in baseball, which is kinda sad. Although the Angels-Rangers is still reasonably close given the games they have left against each other.

He has roughly the same OPS this year against Lefties as Ryan Howard, at a more premium defensive position. (and even with his arbitration raise will be making a 6th of what he does) Yes, he's not playing it well this year, but that's actually the oddity. He's got a positive defensive WAR every other year. His .164 BABIP in April is the luck that's pulling his stats down, even his average against lefties. He's only got 108 PA against them. Also, the Scott Hairston (and even Paulino) lefty-mashing signings were probably a result of Alderson's understanding of Pagans lefty troubles. I'm not trying to deny he's having a bad year. He's having a bad year in the field and at the plate. He's 18th among qualifying CFers in OPS. (Of course, his career numbers, particularly his Mets career, would have him in the top half and he usually plays better defense than many of them) I think it's a reasonable assumption to expect Pagan to basically be Pagan next year. And even for $4 mill or so, that's going to be valuable. There also isn't going to be a whole lot of options for the Mets to replace him for both a reasonable rate and have that replacement be obviously and predictably better. Certainly can keep an eye out, but it definitely seems more reasonable to keep Pagan, and let a prospect attempt to push him out. The Mets already need to replace RF, and while it's likely Duda, he's certainly not a lock to be a good player. But yes, we've had this argument before. And really, not much has changed beyond the raise he's going to get.

Pelfrey - 1.5 Acpsta - .75 Parnell - .5 Duda - .5 Evans - 3.5 Wright - 2.25 Pagan - .5 Tejada - .25 Bay - .25

TransMonk wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: It's a LITTLE more than the throws. It's the baserunning, it's the batting approach, it's the routes to the ball... over the better part of this year, he appears to have regressed to what his detractors said about him prior to last year. This. If Pagan is going to bat .260 with limited power, then he needs to have outstanding defensive and baserunning skills, which he doesn't. You're overlooking that Pagan's poor start was mainly bad luck and that he's almost got his numbers back up to career norms anyway. He played a fine outfield last year, so it's not like it's beyond him. So really it's about some of the insane defensive moves he's made and how likely he is to at least significantly cut back on them.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Ceetar wrote: metirish wrote: TransMonk wrote: Pagan sucks. IMO, CF is a major area of future concern. Agree, not even convinced he's an everyday player on a good team. Not if he's going to make plays like that. but if he plays a non-insane CF and he's very good. If Duda were faster and darker and a righty and threw harder, he'd be Roberto Clemente. I think Pagan not overthrowing every ball he fields is more likely than that one.

metirish wrote: TransMonk wrote: Pagan sucks. IMO, CF is a major area of future concern. Agree, not even convinced he's an everyday player on a good team. Not if he's going to make plays like that. but if he plays a non-insane CF and he's very good.