Ceetar

metirish wrote: When did Delgado say all of that?, wasn't his beef with the occupation of Vieques that somehow morphed into people accusing him of hating America? yeah, I think that's it. And I believe it was only one time....and he was playing for a Canadian team at the time.

duan wrote: how embarrassing is this crowd. Pretty embarrassing. oh, you meant the Marlins?

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Ceetar wrote: I think replacing Warthen could help, but who knows. That's your answer for everything, isn't it? Me, I think the solution would be to give tax cuts to billionaires. I haven't brought it up in weeks. but it would help.

Edgy DC wrote: Just teasing, but I think "If there is a national passtime, it's probably eating in front of the television," is really the plain and obvious truth. Good work. indeed. Which is why they promote football as a beer and wings in front of the TV day.

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Ouch! I'm not saying that "baseball is dying" (This is his argument, isn't it? I have to say I rarely do more than skim his posts.) but football has certainly surpassed baseball in popularity. If there is a national passtime, it's probably eating in front of the television, but if that category is limited to professional sports, it's got to be football. The Super Bowl continues to be a major event, and the World Series isn't nearly what it once was. probably better for a different thread, but I think it's apples and oranges. The once a week, tv-hyped, one-game 16 times format of football is much easier to devote a ton of time to and really follow. But the average football fan probably watches more baseball games a year than football. it's spread over a longer period, and there is less overlap, but overall, it's probably more hours on baseball. All it would take is the same one game a week.

he pitched real good last year, he pitched real good for a month preceding this last bit of struggle. Someone remarked on Twitter that the slider should've annihiliated Cameron..and then Parnell didn't throw it. Obviously I'm not treating one tweet as fact, even if the guy's a pitch f/x geek, but there might be something to it. He's had plenty of bouts of success too. I dunno, at this point you gotta keep throwing him out there anyway. It's such a small sample size to judge in terms of actual saves anyway, but you'd like to have confidence next season that he can save 9/10 with regularity. The walks are the big thing. Identify why. not mixing pitches? overthrowing? poor scouting? I think replacing Warthen could help, but who knows.

Edgy DC wrote: I disagree that it's obviously prompted by religion. I think it's prompted by the organization wanting to be --- or wanting to be seen as being --- good citizens. It's an official alternative to the national anthem and they were doubling down on the patriotism. That it has an invocation of the deity is a reality, but if some other secondary national anthem didn't have such, I don't think the Mets would be saying, "Fuck it, we're going with 'God Bless America'." unconsciously prompted. Not by the Mets specifically but there's that ingrained christianity in our society that contradicts separation of church and state and all that. It's more a political/societal thing than a baseball thing. Baseball is a very follow the leader organization. One team plays Who Let the Dogs Out, every/most team starts playing it. One team starts outfitting rookies with pink backpacks, all teams start doing it. So the Mets are just going with the flow really and being as you said, good citizens.

Willets Point wrote: Ceetar wrote: I think you could argue Take Me Out to the Ballgame is patriotic too. It's a song about where a girl wants her beau to take her on a date. to watch America's national pastime.

I think you could argue Take Me Out to the Ballgame is patriotic too.

MFS62 wrote: themetfairy wrote: And the player of the game is Nick Evans - What a night! On the postgame show on SNY, they mentioned it was only the third time a Mets player had three tie-breaking hits in the same game. I was too tired to remember the other two. Later If I had to guess, at least one occured in late 2007. That September was full of the Mets creating a ton of blown save opportunities

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Benjamin Grimm wrote: DocTee wrote: I like it. It should be our national anthem, in my opinion. No more religious, in my mind, than the Pledge of Allegiance or our currency. I agree. The song resides in the hearts of the people more than the Star Spangled Banner does. When Congress gathered on the Capitol steps after September 11, they didn't sing the actual anthem, they sang God Bless America. If the national anthem is supposed to reflect the spirit of the people, then God Bless America fits the bill. And I'm saying this as a committed atheist. If you don't believe in Yahweh (and I don't) then look at the God in the song as an allegorical God. I'm not the least bit offended by it. Singing about "land that I love" and "my home sweet home" is much better than ramparts and gleaming and stuff like that. Leaving aside what god-fearingTM members of Congress sang during a very visible moment... both in terms of melody/lyrics and sentiment, it's "America the Beautiful" over "God Bless America." All day. Every day. Indeed. I'm not sure God Bless America is 'the song' in the eyes of the people, or at least, not sure that it was in 2000. Maybe it is because it was forced our throats, and not vice versa. And not just that. If you want to play up the patriotism (and go for it. In fact, maybe they should start jamming the National Pastime thing down peoples throats _more_ and stop lettin football try to claim that throne. ) have some guts and play whatever patrotic song you want. I'm sure Billy Joel has a couple, and you know how the Mets love him. Leave God Bless America for the Padres or something. Or hell, embrace the regional nature of it and play New York, New York.

well yeah, the Mets 'quietly' honor a serviceperson every game. (And they always say "seated in Section 1, Row A" etc like he just happened to randomly get those seats. it's the same seat very time) The Mets have quietly invited 9/11 families to the park 5x a year for 10 years and players come in and talk and sign and take pictures. Yet the yearly trip to Walter Reed only has 97% attendance and people throw hissy fits. That's honoring America. rebranding yourself by forcing a song down fans throats is not.

Wright's about to cross into the "definitely barring injury" category for passing Kranepool next year. I'm hoping Wright's never the franchise leader in hits, even when he's eclipsed 2500.

I hate God Bless America. Mainly because of the non-secular nature of it, and because it's forced down my throat. I hate that the Mets seem to play it (or did) every Sunday, which is obviously prompted by religion. The Yankees (well, YES) force it down your throat further, by not cutting to commercial. (I don't think they stay around for the Anthem do they? I don't think I've caught the beginning of a Yankees game this season) I did get yelled at by a fan once at Yankee Stadium last year when I didn't feel like removing my cap for it. Oops. I'm not going to complain about the time thing though, cause I love Lazy Mary and love in some perverse way when it's an ESPN game or a long break and we get the English verses that follow the Eye-Talian.

bmfc1 wrote: Ceetar bring the goods: Ceetar The #mets need to go 17-5 while the #braves go 4-17 to force a one-game playoff. #wildcard #optimism This was in response to me tweeting last night that I didn't want the Phillies to win, but I want the Braves to lose to keep pushing back the Mets elimination date. Joe Janish told me to be optimistic for a miracle run. I was about to tweet it last night 'if the scores tonight hold up' and then Parnell blew it.. anyway, as @oddmetsjerk pointed out, the Mets are still alive in the division race too. (4) and I need to be more optimistic.

Edgy DC wrote: Double switch in Tejada here for the defense? Turner's hardly a liability at second.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Ceetar wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Yanks-O's still waiting out a rain delay? about to start. it's gonna look like Sun Life stadium by the time it's over. A game starting four hours late ... unbelievable! And not just rainy (still) but windy and barely 60 degrees. and the Orioles and Yankees tend towards long high-offense crazy games too.

Edgy DC wrote: Yanks-O's still waiting out a rain delay? about to start. it's gonna look like Sun Life stadium by the time it's over.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: If the scoreboard operator makes a loud mistake, and less than 1,000 announced are around to see it, does it make a sound? even if they saw it, probably thought Boyer was pinch hitting anyway.

Edgy DC wrote: I'm not too down on that. Look at it this way --- we've had four firstbaseman, which is bad. But all four have more or less performed. Nobody accumulates all the numbers, but it beats watching a guy go down and having squishy guys like Miguel Cairo in the lineup all year. Well that's true, the Mets have roughly as many RBI as the Phillies as a team. More ties into the games played thing with no one around long enough (besides Bay) to really get a high number.

Benjamin Grimm wrote: This is kind of nutty: Daniel Murphy, who hasn't played in about a month, still leads the team in games played this season. This isn't likely to last: Murphy has 109, and there are a few players just behind him: Murphy, Daniel 109 Bay, Jason 108 Pagan, Angel 107 Reyes, Jose 105 Harris, Willie 105 Turner, Justin 101 the RBI list is pretty nuts too. Bay's 5th. (32 more PAs than Murphy too) Beltran 66 Pagan 52 Murphy 49 Wright 49 Bay 48 Turner 46 Duda 44

bmfc1 wrote: Come on Terry--if you're going to sit Bay, do we really need to see Willie Harris anymore? Start Pascucci. hell, start the batboy.

raise a glass for the winners.

Minor League Baseball uses a 7-day disabled list for all injuries. Players who are on the 40-man roster but get hurt in the minor leagues are placed on the minor league DL, but not on the major league DL. One problem this poses is that a player who is injured in the minors and who would be placed on the major league 60-day DL cannot be placed on the 60-day, meaning the 40-man roster spot is not freed up. from Wikipedia. sounds like Niese might be done for the year though.

Gwreck wrote: You're not sure on what? That he's on the disabled list? Forgive me for not putting much faith in "someone" who "told you" this. Placing Mejia on the disabled list does not accumulate major league service time as he was not placed on the major league disabled list. As to the question regarding his option years, he will be eligible for a fourth option year based on the fact that he will not have accumulated five full seasons of professional service before his three option years are up. See here: http://www.bizofbaseball.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=655&Itemid=75 correct on the option year. major league DL is different than the minor league one. I don't know the differences and semantics, but it certainly may be that you can't remove someone from the 40 man while they're in the minors. after all, how would you tell the difference between rehab games and actually active games? You could leave them on the 60day indefinitely.