Ceetar

Centerfield wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Saves sellout in event of rainout How does that work? Does it make a difference if the makeup is today or Thursday? yes, because if I bought tickets to Opening Day (for a different price) I certainly don't want to then miss it by not having tickets to it.

Frayed Knot wrote: Backup shortstops are almost always going to be low-hitting, glove guys so it's not like getting rid of Q and replacing him with [player X from the pile of available non-starters] is going to change things much. The problem, IOW, isn't really with the specific backup it's that, unless the everyday guy suddenly bounces back to 2012 form, the starter isn't strong enough. As for using Q yesterday, I though Terry made all the reasonable moves, especially seeing how he was hamstrung with a temporarily short roster. Q to 2nd for defense plus Young to LF and Brown out of the game in order to protect a one-run lead in the 9th was the way to go, but stuff like that all falls apart when what your pitcher really needs is a LF who's 18 feet tall. I don't think Young is appreciably better on defense than Brown and you essentially replaced Brown's bat with 0's. I was confused by the double-switching though. Like bringing in Recker for the final couple of outs of the 10th, you ended up being what would've been the tying run (with Q behind him). These double-switches didn't lengthen the lineup (just pinch-hitting for pitcher would've done better) and it wasn't that short since Young apparently could pinch hit. Then again, it always seems like this happens in extra inning games, managers somehow get all the subs in there. And Williams didn't use his closer tie game on the road either.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: To me it really came down to EY's plays not made, plus the gamble on the pen with Parnell's readiness an obvious red flag from the get-go. No matter how it came apart, it didn't feel like a 1-run lead was the kind of thing you can trust this Mets team with yet. You know I dislike EY as much as the next guy (he's really generally just average/slightly below as a fielder) but I kinda want to give him a pass given how few reps he's really gotten at second. There was a play in the hole that wasn't ruled an error but should've been though, where he bobbled it and then still maybe could've gotten him but didn't throw. smg58 wrote: I'll be more concerned about Parnell's velocity if it stays this low after a week or two. He was a little bit of luck away from a fairly routine inning, so no need to panic. Lannan does not profile as a situational pitcher -- a guy who at his best gives up loads of singles and has no platoon splits is not somebody you bring in to close out an inning with a man on third. There might not be a right way to use Lannan if he doesn't pitch better, but that was the wrong way. Torres and Rice have been better than that and I'm not worried about them. Yet. Lannan's just not really good at all and he's not really a LOOGY with platoon splits either. Parnell was 93-94 by the end. I know that's down from the 96-97 average he was posting last year, but it's early and he's recovering from neck surgery. That was 3-4 mph higher than he was throwing in Spring, so I figure it's a good sign though I'd still like to try to have bigger leads while he works himself back up to shape. Chris Young as actually on deck at one point, so presumably the strain isn't that big a deal. They changed the scoreboard again. It's a little more simplistic now. I like it, though it's missing the running total ERA counts that I used to like. beer prices went up a quarter to $9 even. Much better selection though. Cold.

Vegas depth.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: I get the feeling that if there had been no vocal reaction, there might have been a smartassy hizzoner Tweet there in its place. Tracky is as the wind blows. (Or, rather, the pithiest counter to said wind-blowing.) saw one or two tweets before hand a little pissy about it. But first pitch was invented for politicians. that said, had no idea he was so disliked. Perhaps it's not unreasonable to not subject fans to someone they hate? but then, this isn't Rivera.

d'Kong76 wrote: Ceetar wrote: Lagares looked real good. I'm going with this for a day or so. Lets make it two and reevaluate on Wednesday Night.

quick thoughts: Kiner moment of silence was so silent you could hear the wind in the microphone. Lagares looked real good. Bullpen did not, but some fluky stuff bloops too and what seemed like a poor strike zone. Beer selection took a big step up. Zimmerman still throws what that stupid little loop. New the7line shop looks nice. was busy. Mr. Softee stand wasn't real popular. New "in-game hosts" for all the between innings stuff. They have an official title but it's not really any different. silly stuff, including a Simon Says bit with Cuppy the DD mascot.

Frayed Knot wrote: HahnSolo wrote: Not clear enough on the rules I guess, I thought managers couldn't challenge from the 7th inning on? From the 7th on umpires can trigger a challenge on their own if they feel the call was iffy. This is in addition to managers' challenges if they didn't use it up in the early innings. But of course, this preserves the "yelling at the umpires" aspect of the game so managers can come out at anytime and yell at the umpires to review it. They just get to be listened for sure once in the first six innings.

1. Reach base safely - Daniel Murphy 2. Get a hit - Daniel Murphy 3. Draw a walk - David Wright 4. Hit a double - Ruben Tejada 5. Hit a triple - Juan Lagares 6. Hit a home run - Curtis Granderson 7. Steal second base - David Wright 8. Reach by error - Eric Young Jr 9. Hit a grounds-rule double - Chris Young 10. Score a run - Daniel Murphy 11. Drive in a run - David Wright 12. Get hit by a pitch - Curtis Granderson 13. Drive in more than one run in a single plate appearance - Curtis Granderson 14. Hit into a double play - Ruben Tejada 15. Get caught stealing OR picked off base - Eric Young Jr 16. Strike out - Chris Young 17. Bunt for a base hit - Eric Young Jr 18. Get tagged out at home - Daniel Murphy 19. Pinch hit - Lucas Duda 20. Be pinch-hit for - Dillon Gee 21. Commit an error - Daniel Murphy 22. Play a batted ball by an opponent in fair territory - Dillon Gee 23. Be called on to relieve - Gonzalez Germen 24. Strike out 6 or more batters in the same game - Zack Wheeler 25. Hit an opposing batter with a pitch - Bartolo Colon Bonus: score the first double play the Mets turn -- 8-3

Edgy MD wrote: Which "why" is your "because" in response to? Because I'm not following. why fans have shown they're willing to pay for it? Because we haven't been priced out. Why? because a lot of the onus is on the cable companies and spread among many customers, some of who doesn't even watch baseball. Because cable deals are paying teams huge amounts of money. Why? Because the sport is thriving and fans are watching. Because baseball is awesome.

Frayed Knot wrote: Oh, we're paying for it. It's just in the cable bill not (just) the ticket prices. Of course we're paying for it (in one form or another). The point is that baseball fans have proven themselves to be quite willing to pay for it* and until they show otherwise this conversation of 'I can't believe how much Player X is getting' hasn't changed since the favored complaints were about how criminal it was that backup infielders were making 50K. * something which has to be a surprise for those at ESPN who keep telling me that the set of baseball fans in America now is down to Bob Costas, George Will, plus seven or eight guys in a nursing home somewhere, and despite the fact that their network just re-upped a deal with MLB for double the money they were previously paying Because we haven't actually been priced out, at least in part because of cable deals. Without which, would prices for seats reach NFL/NBA levels?

Frayed Knot wrote: metsguyinmichigan wrote: How long before the average all-star commands $20 million? Y'know what, if the owners have the money -- and it certainly appears that they do -- then who cares? OK it'll matter if and when either teams start to go out of business or fans start to stay away because they're priced out of their seats in order to pay for these contracts - but not only is neither happening right now (despite decades of dire predictions that such scenarios were just around the corner) but the trends for the most part are marching in exactly the opposite direction. Oh, we're paying for it. It's just in the cable bill not (just) the ticket prices. The amount of money Verizon gets from me a month could probably pay a mortgage in some parts of the country.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Ceetar wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: C Young LF Muffy 2B Wright 3B Grandy RF Davis 1B Lagares CF d'Arnaud C Tejada SS Gee P Terry will probably swap Davis And Curtis for the R/L/R thing. Um... both hit left-handed, yes? That's fair. it's Spring Training for bloggers too.. I think that's part of why Terry doesn't want to lead off with Chris Young. I also don't think he'll bat Lagares that high. but who knows. I'll take that lineup.

G-Fafif wrote: WOR adding "The Sports Zone," hosted by Pete McCarthy before and after Mets games -- preceding and following Seth Everett, apparently, to create a Mets or at least sports cushion around their baseball property. It will air 6-9 on non-game nights. McCarthy was with mlb.com. I'm planning to leave for games by 5:15, what do I get then?

Edgy MD wrote: That one inning has bumped EY up a spot in the depth chart. Won't commit to Q either apparently. Drew? Ordonez? Me?

Vic Sage wrote: Can we return now to the subject of EY getting a surprising opportunity at SS, and why OB% may not tell the whole picture of his (or any player's) value? If you want. my point is actually relevant to something the Mets might do though. Figured I'd plug in the numbers while I was thinking about it. I have nothing to say about Eric Young at SS. It's almost baseball season, and that's not something that's going to happen.

This is probably why Matt wanted to rehab in NY Jeremy Hefner: Just hanging out with all my friends!

Vic Sage wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Well, it stands to reason, no? Any time you can find at-bats for a guy who can get on, like, thirty percent of the time, well, you've got to give him those at-bats. well, its not quite that simple now, is it? I'm as SABR-philic as the next guy, but it seems to me a guy that gets on 30% of the time, but then can put himself quickly and consistently in scoring position (because he, you know, leads the league in SBs, and does so at a high rate), may be better option than a guy who gets on 35% of the time and then stands there on 1b, requiring more than one hit to score (unless its a HR, which this team hasn't, and isn't going to, hit that many of). Yes, OB% is important, probably the MOST important, offensive indicator, but it isn't the ONLY indicator, and shouldn't be considered in isolation. Well, if you wanted to pretend Young's net SB were an extra base, that'd bump him up to a .412 SLG with the Mets, which would be pretty good, but isn't quite the same because the SB doesn't actually drive anyone in the way a double does. It also seems to forget that Juan Lagares is not slow. He hasn't had the success rate in the minors that you'd want, but last year everyone on the Mets stole well. Daniel Murphy had a better SB% than Young Jr. But really this decision has nothing to do with Young. Can Lagares hit a little more and maybe add value via baserunning too? If so, he's the slam dunk choice. And just that he has the potential to do so is enough. They'll work in EYJr in the beginning, but if Juan proves capable, you'll see him get less and less time (unless of course Chris falters)

Also it's almost always wiser to spend in increments than all at once. This is the criticism the Blue Jays and Marlins caught recently. tpgmets wrote: The payroll of the Mets' active roster peaked at around $42M last year. That's the most they had on the field. They're going to top that on Opening Day. They HAVE spent. Not saying they don't still have plenty of financial issues and that one year of Ervin Santana or Stephen Drew at a crazy price (if that was ever on the table) wouldn't help, but just because you can start spending again doesn't mean you should definitely give Drew a 3-4 year deal at an overvalued cost, particularly given the current state of the team. The pictures in that post annoy me. "Hey look, garbage! what am I trying to say here?" and "Let me cherry pick a section or two to really make the attendance look bad" I mean, plenty of people in that picture have jackets on, and we had some cold and rainy nights in June. Is that representative of the average Mets crowd? no.

batmagadanleadoff wrote: G-Fafif wrote: Mo Vaughn (did not play for 2001 Angels due to injury but came to the Mets in the offseason of 2001-02) We'll accept Vaughn. Even though he was inactive in 2001, he played for the Angels and came to the Mets from the Angels, who won the WS in Vaughn's first Met season. Wait, the Vaughn we saw in NY was ACTIVE?

G-Fafif wrote: Gee batting 9th or 8th? I'm sorta hoping 8th.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: C Young LF Muffy 2B Wright 3B Grandy RF Davis 1B Lagares CF d'Arnaud C Tejada SS Gee P Terry will probably swap Davis And Curtis for the R/L/R thing.

themetfairy wrote: Not just a cool tailgate - the coolest! homebrew.

Edgy MD wrote: Lannan officially makes the club. The Lanimal!

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I think it's about the innings; they'll use him sparingly in April and May so that he can last the season. That's my guess, anyway. We can only hope that 'last the season' applies to innings and not health.