Ceetar

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Ceetar wrote: Has there been realistic talk about Bruce to first? doesn't look like he really plays there at all. 3 games in 2014. and i would not worry even a little about Loney. He will get his time. was thinking of Granderson and Conforto's potential more specifically. Mets Guy in Michigan wrote: If he's staying in the outfield, this must mean the end of DeAza, no? half the PA, but De Aza's outhit Bruce over the last 30 days.

Has there been realistic talk about Bruce to first? doesn't look like he really plays there at all. I guess we'll see what happens. Don't really love it. Bruce isn't really that good especially if to play him you have to sit down guys that aren't bad. And if this means Grandy/Conforto in CF you're definitely taking a hit defensively, and Bruce's numbers suck there.

SteveJRogers wrote: Odd non Wrigley day game at the start of the series. must be a camp day promotion thing that they wanted Thursday instead of yesterday. Surprised it's not at 12.

There is not.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Hey is possible to revamp the league to a division format next season? Too many of us are out of the $$ and there's little incentive to deal Is there division format in Ottoneu? I wouldn't be opposed to that. I've been really bad with focusing on baseball, particularly fantasy, this year in general.

He's got 817 PA against righties and over 100 this year. Maybe he'll hit them eventually, but the Mets should assume he won't and have someone ready to go if Reyes can't.

and _now_ Reyes is truly back to being a Met.

Curtis Granderson � RF Asdrubal Cabrera � SS Yoenis Cespedes � LF James Loney � 1B Neil Walker � 2B Wilmer Flores � 3B Michael Conforto � CF Travis d�Arnaud � C Logan Verrett � RHP Flores in against the Righty, so we'll see how this goes..

Mets Guy in Michigan wrote: Olivia Shea Wright. The man is perfect. Leave room for No. 5 next to 31 -- eventually. You think the Mets will let Olivia wear 5 when she debuts (With or without a David number retirement?) with them?

d'Kong76 wrote: Ceetar wrote: This is only the 5th worst, by OPS, season for the Mets batting with RISP. They're at .616 Of course, it's also the 12th worse all time (since about 1914 or so) The record for lowest OPS with RISP in a season was the '68 Mets with .563. .598 in '62 .602 in '81 .611 in '63 Those are different offensive eras though. If you sort by sOPS+ the Mets lose the bottom spot. '69 Padres had a 62 OPS+, '62 Mets had a 63, and third is the 2016 Mets with a 65. bbrdotcom, or something else? yeah, baseball reference play index.

Ashie62 wrote: The Yankees prize is an OF Gleyber Torres Torres, 19, is hitting .275/.359/.433 in High Class A. He was recently ranked the 27th best prospect by Baseball America and the 34th best prospect by Baseball Prospectus. Torres' combination of three potential plus tools -- with power being his lone substandard one -- and polish makes him an intriguing piece. It's unclear who else the Cubs might be sending to the Bronx, but Torres seems like a good start to the Yankees' rebuild. Warren goes to the Yankees, Torres and Crawford to Single A Tampa, and McKinney to AA Trenton.

This is only the 5th worst, by OPS, season for the Mets batting with RISP. They're at .616 Of course, it's also the 12th worse all time (since about 1914 or so) The record for lowest OPS with RISP in a season was the '68 Mets with .563. .598 in '62 .602 in '81 .611 in '63 Those are different offensive eras though. If you sort by sOPS+ the Mets lose the bottom spot. '69 Padres had a 62 OPS+, '62 Mets had a 63, and third is the 2016 Mets with a 65.

Mets Guy in Michigan wrote: “At this time of year, many players are discussed among lots of clubs,” Mets general manager Sandy Alderson said. “Most of those discussions are no more than idle conversations that lead to nothing.” * -- a useful gadget in every's journalist's tool belt, a Magic Quote can be used to sell any story and express any emotion! For example. Perfect! A writer can hang a whole column around that, yet do nothing in the way of actual journalism except generate hits and take up space in print. And the best part about that is everyone else that posts about it instantly gets more credibility because they're quoting you. And then everyone posts about it,because of course, and suddenly everyone's talking about it because everyone's talking about it. But it could be worse, it could be politics.

per 100 pitches, runs above average is Dickey, deGrom, Martinez. Of course, that's only since 2002 and speaks to the result more than the actual pitch movement/location/etc. http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=pit≶=all&qual=y&type=7&season=2016&month=0&season1=1871&ind=0&team=25&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&sort=6,d

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Thor typically needs more help wrt the running game, that part of it is not bogus. I think Travis will be one of the SHaMs best performers. Yes, but the difference between Rivera and d'Arnaud in terms of holding/throwing out runners is not really super significant (most of it's on Thor himself) and I don't believe comes close to making up for the offensive difference. And if it did, it'd be because there were a lot of baserunners which doesn't bode well anyway. I agree on d'Arnaud. My, perhaps ancedotal, belief is he's been a pretty slow starter and really thrives once he's gotten into a rhythm. Would be nice to see him start to find that now.

I'd like to say good move by Collins shifting d'Arnaud's off day to yesterday, but probably had more to do with bogus Rene Rivera-Thor batteries than getting an extra real bat into the getaway game.

I'm reserving the DH to maybe get Duda back a week or two earlier actually. Cespedes has been repeatedly beat up this year. I could see how wanting to stay put in left makes sense to get more games out of him, if I felt like the way his injuries happened had anything to do with CF and not just diving (into stands). I guess less plays in LF means less dives means less chance of injury and such, but it seems like such a minute concern. I dunno, I suspect they'll figure it out. If Lagares continues to hit fine, then I guess you have Conforto rove and PH and what not, and don't really worry about it too much and focus on upgrading in the infield where the average-poor hitters are. As long as we're shoving people around the diamond, can we give Conforto a first-baseman's glove?

Zvon wrote: Who did the wording? "Perhaps.." At first I was like WHA? "perhaps?".. , but then on double thought that's very much something they would do on a plaque. I like it. I wrote and photoshopped that after his first rejection, 2013. I wouldn't expect it to be on his real plaque.

Add in the DH and he might have years left.

A think a good rule of thumb is to walk around Citi Field and ask say 1000 people who's #17? and if you get say 75% Keith Hernandez, then retire it because it's pretty clear the fans have a mental association of the number to the player even this many years later. Give it a grace period. in 2025 ask about #5. You might get a bunch of John Oleruds or Davey Johnsons but mostly you're going to get Wright. The Mets are old enough now that a lot of people have worn all the main numbers except for the fake-retired ones. I think it's usually pretty clear when a number clearly is a synonym for that player. The whole concept behind retiring it is that it feels like it belongs to someone else. But the Mets should just set out a rule and decide what exactly it is that retiring a number means to the organization. As we've pointed out a bunch, it's silly to fake-retire numbers by not handing them out. It seems pretty clear the Mets have two classes of retired numbers. So hell, why not put the 8 and the 24 on the wall? You could even invert the colors and have more orange and just make those 'honored numbers' that are reused but represent Carter or Mays time with the Mets. You can't really go wrong with extra celebration.

Edgy MD wrote: Ceetar wrote: It's fun to poke fun at the Yankees for over-retiring guys, but when you're in the entertainment business I don't really think you can over-celebrate. I would tend to disagree. Asking your neighbors to join you in re-celebrating your baby's birth every month will get diminishing attendance and increasingly indiscreet eye rolls, and eventually devalue birthdays and other, realer, more compelling milestones. I mean, you're also in the legacy business, trying to sustain an ongoing relationship with your fans. Let's keep it real. The Mets, by the way have surpassed the Yankees in ratings. well, you're talking to the guy that posts 101 weeks! photos of his kid to Facebook, so.. parents aren't entertainers though. It doesn't have to be retired numbers, but that's what the Yankees do. And then they basically 'claim' these guys and they represent the brand for them. The Mets absolutely over-celebrate 1986. It can be wearying to some, but most people enjoy it. But hell, broaden the scope. Nobody's gonna be all 'stupid Mets' if they decided to celebrate literally any of the names we've mentioned. And even if they do, so what? People will come out. Call 'em 'great Mets' cause in a way everyone is a great Met (Except Tom Glavine) and part of the reason we love this team. None of it _means_ anything anyway. I'd rather snicker about over-celebrating guys than endless debates about shafting Keith Hernandez or whoever. Most of these things are just a day at the park anyway. And it's baseball, entertainment, and marketing. They promote things like Drawstring Bag night! so why not a 'Roger Cedeno night"? or like, in 2006 when Beltran was approaching Hundley's record for franchise HR in a season, have Todd out for a night. show HR highlights, give away 1996 signed gear. Get Edgardo Alfonzo out here again to talk about his 6/6 with Wilmer. Have 'em both sign pictures before the game in the rotunda. If they're both here next year and the Mets are home, name June 6th Edgardo Alfonzo day and get silly with it.

Nymr83 wrote: Ceetar wrote: *cough cough* John Olerud was a better Mets hitter than both of 'em (and Piazza) though he only had a few years worth of PA the best. but i thought we were discussing the best "homegrown" player Honestly homegrown doesn't mean that much to me. Carlos Beltran is one of my favorite players. Syndergaard of the current ilk maybe. In the murky waters of what's worthy of Mets HoF or number retirement having spent time in the Mets minor leagues doesn't really factor in for me. It's fun to poke fun at the Yankees for over-retiring guys, but when you're in the entertainment business I don't really think you can over-celebrate.

*cough cough* John Olerud was a better Mets hitter than both of 'em (and Piazza) though he only had a few years worth of PA

bmfc1 wrote: It's not just being 6 games back of WSH, it's being ahead of 3 of these 4 teams: LAD, MIA, STL, PIT. http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/standings/wildcard.jsp Wild Card is a mid-September word.

Frayed Knot wrote: I suspect he's mostly saying things that he thinks sound good at the time. Indeed. And dropping "Had sex in the clubhouse while games were going on" quotes is not exactly the way you endear yourself to the Mets organization.