i agree that Belle is worth consideration, despite his personality issues, but he's not a more impressive candidate, IMO, than Jim Rice, and certainly not the all-around player that was Andre Dawson. I'd have to put him squarely behind those fellas. And none of them had the impressive career of Blyleven or the absolute dominance of Gossage. I think, sometimes, the short-career guys get OVERvalued, because they didn't play long enough to have the inevitable bad years at the end of a career dragging down their overall numbers. If you look at Dale Murphy, for a while there he was an absolute LOCK as a HOFer...but he crashed and burned too soon, and kept playing anyway. I don't think you should be overvalued simply because injury prevented you from putting up the inevitablely mediocre late-career seasons. I'm not saying that a protracted career should be preferred, but merely that the peak/plateau periods for each HOF candidate be compared, not just the career totals, which can be shortened by injury at the zenith or extended through a protracted and mediocre twilight. My criteria continues to be at least 10 excellent seasons, of which at least 5 were amongst the top 10 at your position in your era. then, specific accomplishments (ROY,MVP,CY,GGs, post-season) are factored in, plus "impact on the game" (if any), "dominance", etc. This is why the 4 "tests" are so useful, as they do factor all this into consideration. My HOF enshrinement for this year: - Goose - Cap'n Bly with Rice, Dawson and Belle sittin' on the fence. Next year: - Rip - Tony the Tiger with Bash Bro #1 on the fence, and Bash Bro #2 cleaning toilets