Fman99

Are starters even allowed to pitch in the 9th inning?

Umpires are morons.

="Frayed Knot":1h410dhv]'The Hardball Times' did a whole article on this sort of thing[/url:1h410dhv] a week or so back.[/quote:1h410dhv] Wow, great article. Rarely in my life have I gotten screwed with less enjoyment than this. Gwreck May 26 2009 08:49 AM There is no service fee charged on tickets purchased in person at Citi Field. Hence the problem -- nymr83 went out there to save on these fees and buy his ticket in person, only to find that the affordable tickets had sold out. Nymr83 May 26 2009 08:56 AM ]It's one thing if certain ways of obtaining a $20 ticket involve extra fees, but if EVERY way of getting it involves a fee then it's not really a $20 ticket is it ="Gwreck"]There is no service fee charged on tickets purchased in person at Citi Field. Hence the problem -- nymr83 went out there to save on these fees and buy his ticket in person, only to find that the affordable tickets had sold out. yeah, that was pretty much the issue. eliminating the online fees would solve my problem as i could decide before i trek out there if its worth going or not. one more thing that annoyed me- at Shea there were signs above the ticket windows indicating which categories of tickets were still available that day and how much they cost. these signs were absent at Citi Field and would have saved me from 20+ minutes on line. batmagadanleadoff May 26 2009 09:50 AM I wonder if perhaps, those add on and processing fees are treated as separate from ticket sales revenue, and therefore, do not have to be shared with the opposition. Edgy DC May 26 2009 09:58 AM Revenue sharing is based on exceeding the preset salary threshhold, isn't it? batmagadanleadoff May 26 2009 10:00 AM I'm not sure. That's why I perhapsed my post. But I was posting on the assumption that a certain percentage of the gate automatically went to the visiting team, no matter what. Nymr83 May 26 2009 10:01 AM ="Edgy DC":niwqtenf]Revenue sharing is based on exceeding the preset salary threshhold, isn't it?[/quote:niwqtenf] I think he's talking about the percentage of ticket sales that goes to the visiting club, which predated the luxury tax and as far as i know continues today. Benjamin Grimm May 26 2009 10:02 AM I believe it does. Gate sharing has been around forever and is distinct from revenue sharing, which was introduced more recently as part of a collective bargaining agreement. Edgy DC May 26 2009 10:04 AM That's a good question, then. But owners kcertainly now enough not to let themselves get swindled by each other, no? Frayed Knot May 26 2009 10:32 AM ="Edgy DC"]Revenue sharing is based on exceeding the preset salary threshhold, isn't it? Two separate things. Luxury tax is based on exceeding salary thresholds. Revenue sharing is based on various income lines and, yes, this all could be about that in the same way that's what luxury suites are all about. They're treated as rent rather than ticket sales and therefore aren't subject to the same cut of the gate as one Joe Sixpack buys. ]But owners kcertainly now enough not to let themselves get swindled by each other, no? Not necessarily. In the NFL - where ticket and broadcast money is all split nearly evenly - they were the first to rush into the luxury suite business (and demanding stadiums that accommodated them) and did so for the sole purpose of getting revenue they didn't have to share. Ditto PSLs. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 26 2009 10:52 AM ="Gwreck"]There is no service fee charged on tickets purchased in person at Citi Field. Hence the problem -- nymr83 went out there to save on these fees and buy his ticket in person, only to find that the affordable tickets had sold out. Funny thing-- as I've said a few times on here, the fiancee, a friend of mine and I cobbled together our "package" this year from Ebay-- with a little from Stubhub-- before single-gamers went on sale. With twenty minutes to kill until a lunch meeting, I just did the math. As it turns out, paying face-value or slightly above on Ebay-- where a good number of sellers offer free or discounted shipping-- has actually been about 41 dollars cheaper* than buying directly from the Mets would have been. (And that includes the Mother's Day game against the Pirates, for which I paid about 10 dollars over face per ticket.) *$451.00 versus $492.50 over 9 pairs of seats-- or just over 2 dollars cheaper per ticket. G-Fafif May 26 2009 12:30 PM Yesterday was the first of six consecutive dates that had a Flushing Flash discount component available (first come/first served, buy in advance), indicating they had more inventory than planned for the Nats and Fish. If you subscribe to the Mets' e-newsletter, you could get the $69 seats for $47; same for tonight and tomorrow, all "value" dates. The $69 seats of Monday-Wednesday which become $92 on Friday for "bronze" seating are discounted to $64. Come Sunday, a "silver" date, they are reduced from $115 to $80. Some other seating areas have this "deal" as well. For a single baseball game. I'm not sure how the screw-you-over fees play into it. I do know they announced their highest attendance since Opening Night last night, though the place didn't seem particularly jammed. Details here[/url:3aujeem1]. Frayed Knot May 26 2009 12:31 PM ]*$451.00 versus $492.50 over 9 pairs of seats-- or just over 2 dollars cheaper per ticket. Is it possible to know what the face value is for all those seats. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 26 2009 01:31 PM ="Frayed Knot"]]*$451.00 versus $492.50 over 9 pairs of seats-- or just over 2 dollars cheaper per ticket. Is it possible to know what the face value is for all those seats. All Promenade Infield-- a mix of value (2 @ $15), bronze (2 @ $20) and silver (5 @ $30). Also, forgot to carry ones-- ah, the perils of quickie math-- so add 100 to both sides (551, 592). Frayed Knot May 26 2009 02:00 PM ="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]="Frayed Knot"]]*$451.00 versus $492.50 over 9 pairs of seats-- or just over 2 dollars cheaper per ticket. Is it possible to know what the face value is for all those seats. All Promenade Infield-- a mix of value (2 @ $15), bronze (2 @ $20) and silver (5 @ $30). Also, forgot to carry ones-- ah, the perils of quickie math-- so add 100 to both sides (551, 592). So - if I have this straight - that's 2 pairs of seats at $15/per seat = $60 total plus 2 pairs @ $20/per = 80 plus 5 pairs @ $30/per = 300 = total face $440 which would have cost $592 (an approx 34% increase!?!) to buy from the Mets but were instead bought over the secondary market for $551 metirish May 26 2009 02:08 PM Good work guys. That's one hell of a mark up , of course they would call it something else , price gouging seems about right.

="Edgy DC":2vr2k8wd]Big opening right now for somebody to assert themselves with two hot weeks in the NL central. Milwaukee --- who I thought didn't have the pitching --- is a game up, but a sinking Chicago could rise a lot of boats. Pittsburgh is only a game behind them.[/quote:2vr2k8wd] How can you not root for the Pirates? John Cougar Lunchbucket May 26 2009 08:45 AM I was digesting the standings this morning on the trrain and was struck to know that the Mets had the same record as the... Cincinnati Reds. Nymr83 May 26 2009 09:05 AM its been a real rollercoaster season so far for the Padres from a hot start to 9 games under .500 to a 10 game win streak. i feel like the whole NL is wide open this year, there are no stand out teams and only one true loser. Gwreck May 26 2009 09:10 AM The Dodgers are 31-15 and have a +80 run differential (St. Louis is second with +25). I'd say they're pretty much the class of the league right now.

See, they call it that because you have to promenade around the entrance, square-dance style, while wondering why your favorite team's ownership hates you.

Steve Phillips the analyst is as big of a boob as Steve Phillips the GM ever was. If you could have each of them (the commentator, and the general manager) as two separate heads, and stuff them into a 44D bra, you'd have your own personal Mrs. Jose Lima.

="Edgy DC"]Lannan's also the guy who broke Chase Utley's hand. What you may not recall is that he hit Ryan Howard with his next pitch and got tossed. It was his Nationals debut. Craig Stammen is making his second big league start. His first time out he was something of a control freak, getting deep into the game before even reaching three balls. So aggressiveness may be called for (I'm guessing here). Adam LaRioche tagged him in the seventh as he tired and he ended up with a no-decision. Low walks and modest strikeouts have left him with a 3.81 career minor league ERA. He has the good face. Lannan does not. Jordan Zimmerman I wrote about last time. Scouts are split on whether he has that sweet mellow goodness of a future star. After two quality startys ofu tof the box, he gave up five or more runs four starts in a row (usually scuffling right out of the box), before settling down last time out with a solid seven-inning effort against Baltimore. What more? It says a lot that Elijah Dukes injury didn't lead to a Lastings Milledge callup, I'll say that. The disabled list is also crowded. For what it's worth, Milledge broke his finger on a bunt attempt about two weeks ago so he is not available as a callup until June sometime. He was hitting like crud down on the farm in Syracuse prior to the injury.

Santana 4 Parnell .5 Rodriguez .5 Pagan 1 Sheffield 1 Wright 1 Santos 1 Martinez 1

Pelfrey 4.25 Feliciano .75 Putz 1 Santos 2.25 Sheffield 1 Martinez .25 Castillo .25 Wright .25

Beltran .75 Reed .75 Castro 1 Wright .75 Sheffield .75 Feliciano .5

Maine 3.75 Feliciano .25 Putz .5 Rodriguez .5 Sheffield 2.5 Beltran 1 Martinez .5 Pagan .25 Castillo .5 Wright .25

="Gwreck":1mi0gbu9]Were people buying the $69 (or more) seats? Or were they (like you) telling the Mets to shove it? I find it quite telling that the Mets have no problem moving their reasonably-priced tickets (most of which were gone as part of season ticket/plans) but there are always plenty of "middle" and "top" price tickets available to each game.[/quote:1mi0gbu9] In stark contrast to previous years at Shea, where (logically) the best seats went first and the cheapest seats last, because of greater capacity and more reasonable pricing. Boo. Nymr83 May 26 2009 06:08 AM ="Gwreck"]Were people buying the $69 (or more) seats? Or were they (like you) telling the Mets to shove it? I find it quite telling that the Mets have no problem moving their reasonably-priced tickets (most of which were gone as part of season ticket/plans) but there are always plenty of "middle" and "top" price tickets available to each game. more than half looked like they were leaving (or looking for a scalper, who were doing a brisk business and were fewer in number than usual) if i had taken the train and lived in the city leaving would have been an instant decision on my part, but having driven from staten island (and paid for parking) i wanted to see of the scalpers prices had gone down when the game actually started (a tactic that has led to great success at football games). they were practically nowhere to be found at that point. ]In stark contrast to previous years at Shea, where (logically) the best seats went first and the cheapest seats last, because of greater capacity and more reasonable pricing. well yeah, the loge section at Shea was tiny in terms of the number of seats, i'd guess it ad 1/3 of what field level had and maybe 1/2 of mezz. i guess now we know what 10,000 fewer seats really means because even though it was a "holiday" it was still a monday night in may, against the nationals, without santana, and a "work/school" night. John Cougar Lunchbucket May 26 2009 07:44 AM It's getting to where StubHub/scalper prices for "cheap" seats and avialable seats at the ticket window or online are approaching one another -- if not in actual dollars than in the tick from "affordable" to "I gotta think about this price." I am trying to get seats for Jr. and Wifey for an upcoming game and finding that 3 seats in the promenade is impossible at the ticket window, and $50+ (for $30-something seats) on stubhub. Best available at the window are $90 seats, and when you consider the stress of actively victimizing oneself in the bullshittery of the secondary ticket market* it's almost as if $90 is the better deal. *-The Mets get a cut of every ticket sold on stuhub, so it benefits them to sell seats to ticket brokers and/or fans who become ticket brokers. It's like they sell each seat twice and outsource the labor of selling for free. I don't wish to participate in this skullduggery and you shouldn't either. metsguyinmichigan May 26 2009 07:59 AM They charge $10 per ticket just for the pleasure of selling you a ticket? That's just incredible. Obscene. Benjamin Grimm May 26 2009 08:01 AM ="metsguyinmichigan":1ltagwui]They charge $10 per ticket just for the pleasure of selling you a ticket? That's just incredible. Obscene.[/quote:1ltagwui] Is that true? That doesn't smell right. Gwreck May 26 2009 08:13 AM There's a per-seat charge ($4-$7, price goes up as face value of seat goes up); A per-order charge of $5; and A $2.50 charge per order additional if you want to print them at home. Triple Dee May 26 2009 08:25 AM ="Gwreck":2r1m4j0l] A $2.50 charge per order additional if you want to print them at home.[/quote:2r1m4j0l] I'm intrigued to know what the rationale for this charge is. Aren't you actually saving them money by using your own ink and paper? Benjamin Grimm May 26 2009 08:31 AM Yes. And you're also saving them the labor involved when someone stuffs the tickets into envelopes or staffs the will-call window. Printing at home is convenient for the buyer, so they figure they can get away with charging that "convenience fee." And they're right. Frayed Knot May 26 2009 08:34 AM 'The Hardball Times' did a whole article on this sort of thing[/url:33eeiyl1] a week or so back. The Mets are one of the worst offenders of this practice - though hardly the only one. It all seems so stupid to me. I'd just raise the prices and do away with the hidden fees but I guess this "allows" them to advertise prices as being lower than they actually are: 'See, a family of four can come to the park for less than X'. But saying that some seat is $20 is deceptive if there's no actual way of getting said seat for $20 So 'shipping and handling' charges - or whatever they want to call it - have no basis in reality to what it actually costs to ship or handle (hence the self-print price) it's merely a cost they're adding on simply because they feel they can. Nymr83 May 26 2009 08:36 AM ="Triple Dee":3cwz40tm]="Gwreck":3cwz40tm] A $2.50 charge per order additional if you want to print them at home.[/quote:3cwz40tm] I'm intrigued to know what the rationale for this charge is. Aren't you actually saving them money by using your own ink and paper?[/quote:3cwz40tm] the "rationale" is that you previously could only pick them up day of game so any new options are an excuse to make more $$$$. it might be that these tickets are way easier to counterfeit than normal ones and thus cause them more headaches, i'm not knocking the 2.50 fee by itself its just overkill with the 4-7 +5 fees already there. I've never cared if i had "good" seats or not, its just about getting inside as cheap as i can for me, for a normal non-playoff game my personal threshold is likely about $35 (and i wouldnt go at all at that price if i couldnt bring my own food, kill that policy and my price goes down to $25) Assuming that the cans of Brooklyn Lager costy the Mets $1 each and the ingredients for a kosher italian sausage and a knish cost another $2, they lost about $20 in food sales from me last night (i eat all that even with the food i bring in, i'm a 6'5 pig with a big appetite) I also bought a deck of Mets playing cards last time. I've been considering a shot glass but decided on another beer instead last time i was there. I don't begrudge the Mets the opportunity to make what they can, I'm just observing that i think their calculations to maximize profits are a bit off. they probably had 2-3,000 empty seats yesterday in what could have been a sell out crowd, and thats alot of hot dog sales. Edgy DC May 26 2009 08:37 AM Doubly deceptive when adding the fee per ticket, rather than per transaction. Nymr83 May 26 2009 08:39 AM ]But saying that some seat is $20 is deceptive if there's no actual way of getting said seat for $20 i havent felt "deceived" (yet), the $11 and $15 tickets allegedly sold out yesterday before 5:00 but they had them earlier in the day (so said the ticket guy at whom i balked when he said $69 after i asked for "the cheapest seats you got left, sir") Nymr83 May 26 2009 08:40 AM ="Edgy DC":2bcjiidg]Doubly deceptive when adding the fee per ticket, rather than per transaction.[/quote:2bcjiidg] why do one? the mets do BOTH. not "deceptive" but "annoying" and "costing the mets my money" Gwreck May 26 2009 08:43 AM Like it or not, the Mets are hardly alone in this sort of ridiculous fee-adding. Ticketmaster and Tickets.com do the exact same thing. Frayed Knot May 26 2009 08:44 AM I think it is deceptive. Maybe not to the extent of illegal-deceptive - although if it isn't it's certainly close. It's one thing if certain ways of obtaining a $20 ticket involve extra fees, but if EVERY way of getting it involves a fee then it's not really a $20 ticket is it? Fman99 May 26 2009 08:47 AM ="Frayed Knot":1h410dhv]'The Hardball Times' did a whole article on this sort of thing[/url:1h410dhv] a week or so back.[/quote:1h410dhv] Wow, great article. Rarely in my life have I gotten screwed with less enjoyment than this. Gwreck May 26 2009 08:49 AM There is no service fee charged on tickets purchased in person at Citi Field. Hence the problem -- nymr83 went out there to save on these fees and buy his ticket in person, only to find that the affordable tickets had sold out. Nymr83 May 26 2009 08:56 AM ]It's one thing if certain ways of obtaining a $20 ticket involve extra fees, but if EVERY way of getting it involves a fee then it's not really a $20 ticket is it ="Gwreck"]There is no service fee charged on tickets purchased in person at Citi Field. Hence the problem -- nymr83 went out there to save on these fees and buy his ticket in person, only to find that the affordable tickets had sold out. yeah, that was pretty much the issue. eliminating the online fees would solve my problem as i could decide before i trek out there if its worth going or not. one more thing that annoyed me- at Shea there were signs above the ticket windows indicating which categories of tickets were still available that day and how much they cost. these signs were absent at Citi Field and would have saved me from 20+ minutes on line. batmagadanleadoff May 26 2009 09:50 AM I wonder if perhaps, those add on and processing fees are treated as separate from ticket sales revenue, and therefore, do not have to be shared with the opposition. Edgy DC May 26 2009 09:58 AM Revenue sharing is based on exceeding the preset salary threshhold, isn't it? batmagadanleadoff May 26 2009 10:00 AM I'm not sure. That's why I perhapsed my post. But I was posting on the assumption that a certain percentage of the gate automatically went to the visiting team, no matter what. Nymr83 May 26 2009 10:01 AM ="Edgy DC":niwqtenf]Revenue sharing is based on exceeding the preset salary threshhold, isn't it?[/quote:niwqtenf] I think he's talking about the percentage of ticket sales that goes to the visiting club, which predated the luxury tax and as far as i know continues today. Benjamin Grimm May 26 2009 10:02 AM I believe it does. Gate sharing has been around forever and is distinct from revenue sharing, which was introduced more recently as part of a collective bargaining agreement. Edgy DC May 26 2009 10:04 AM That's a good question, then. But owners kcertainly now enough not to let themselves get swindled by each other, no? Frayed Knot May 26 2009 10:32 AM ="Edgy DC"]Revenue sharing is based on exceeding the preset salary threshhold, isn't it? Two separate things. Luxury tax is based on exceeding salary thresholds. Revenue sharing is based on various income lines and, yes, this all could be about that in the same way that's what luxury suites are all about. They're treated as rent rather than ticket sales and therefore aren't subject to the same cut of the gate as one Joe Sixpack buys. ]But owners kcertainly now enough not to let themselves get swindled by each other, no? Not necessarily. In the NFL - where ticket and broadcast money is all split nearly evenly - they were the first to rush into the luxury suite business (and demanding stadiums that accommodated them) and did so for the sole purpose of getting revenue they didn't have to share. Ditto PSLs. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 26 2009 10:52 AM ="Gwreck"]There is no service fee charged on tickets purchased in person at Citi Field. Hence the problem -- nymr83 went out there to save on these fees and buy his ticket in person, only to find that the affordable tickets had sold out. Funny thing-- as I've said a few times on here, the fiancee, a friend of mine and I cobbled together our "package" this year from Ebay-- with a little from Stubhub-- before single-gamers went on sale. With twenty minutes to kill until a lunch meeting, I just did the math. As it turns out, paying face-value or slightly above on Ebay-- where a good number of sellers offer free or discounted shipping-- has actually been about 41 dollars cheaper* than buying directly from the Mets would have been. (And that includes the Mother's Day game against the Pirates, for which I paid about 10 dollars over face per ticket.) *$451.00 versus $492.50 over 9 pairs of seats-- or just over 2 dollars cheaper per ticket. G-Fafif May 26 2009 12:30 PM Yesterday was the first of six consecutive dates that had a Flushing Flash discount component available (first come/first served, buy in advance), indicating they had more inventory than planned for the Nats and Fish. If you subscribe to the Mets' e-newsletter, you could get the $69 seats for $47; same for tonight and tomorrow, all "value" dates. The $69 seats of Monday-Wednesday which become $92 on Friday for "bronze" seating are discounted to $64. Come Sunday, a "silver" date, they are reduced from $115 to $80. Some other seating areas have this "deal" as well. For a single baseball game. I'm not sure how the screw-you-over fees play into it. I do know they announced their highest attendance since Opening Night last night, though the place didn't seem particularly jammed. Details here[/url:3aujeem1]. Frayed Knot May 26 2009 12:31 PM ]*$451.00 versus $492.50 over 9 pairs of seats-- or just over 2 dollars cheaper per ticket. Is it possible to know what the face value is for all those seats. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr May 26 2009 01:31 PM ="Frayed Knot"]]*$451.00 versus $492.50 over 9 pairs of seats-- or just over 2 dollars cheaper per ticket. Is it possible to know what the face value is for all those seats. All Promenade Infield-- a mix of value (2 @ $15), bronze (2 @ $20) and silver (5 @ $30). Also, forgot to carry ones-- ah, the perils of quickie math-- so add 100 to both sides (551, 592). Frayed Knot May 26 2009 02:00 PM ="LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr"]="Frayed Knot"]]*$451.00 versus $492.50 over 9 pairs of seats-- or just over 2 dollars cheaper per ticket. Is it possible to know what the face value is for all those seats. All Promenade Infield-- a mix of value (2 @ $15), bronze (2 @ $20) and silver (5 @ $30). Also, forgot to carry ones-- ah, the perils of quickie math-- so add 100 to both sides (551, 592). So - if I have this straight - that's 2 pairs of seats at $15/per seat = $60 total plus 2 pairs @ $20/per = 80 plus 5 pairs @ $30/per = 300 = total face $440 which would have cost $592 (an approx 34% increase!?!) to buy from the Mets but were instead bought over the secondary market for $551 metirish May 26 2009 02:08 PM Good work guys. That's one hell of a mark up , of course they would call it something else , price gouging seems about right.

Edgy DC wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Fourteen walks this game. Fifteen! And counting... Kearns as the tying run, up with one down.

="Kong76"]tmf: The baby in the sun is not creepy <<< I don't care for it, mileage may vary. I love it for its creepy awesomeness. I like to think the real sun has a real creepy baby face smiling down at us, at least when we are wearing our gay body-costumes.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: BTW: After 101 PA, Sheff now batting .277, slugging .500, and getting on-base at a .410 clip. Also, he's been surprisingly spry on the bases-- 1 SB, 3 first-to-thirds on singles-- and the team's second-most sure-handed left fielder. In retrospect, I'm okay with the signing. Anyone still object to this union? I'd like to point out that I was good with it from the beginning. This is what we replaced Marlon Anderson with -- remember that.

On to the 9th.... a Mets win would be a good ending to a day spent drinking other people's beer and watching my in-laws bicker over dopey shit.

="MFS62":3mg1jjda]So, what this all boils down to is, Yankee Stadium, the place that Yankee fans consider to be the "temple of baseball" - is now a joke. Just like the names they used to call Shea. And there's no way they can spin it. I'm lovin' every minute of this. Later[/quote:3mg1jjda] I hadn't thought of it that way but I approve of your logic. Elster88 May 27 2009 05:58 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on May 27 2009 06:19 PM ="Frayed Knot":uay8wvqu]Teixeira today with a broken bat. Not a cracked bat mind you but one that shattered in his hands leaving him only with a small piece of the handle while the barrel and splinters flew all over the infield. The ball went about 7 rows deep into LF.[/quote:uay8wvqu] Listening to sports talk on a random station in DC they played the radio call of this play. The hosts ripped up Sterling both for the cartoonish-style call and for not mentioning that Texeira broke his bat. It seems that they know what an idiot that guy is around the country. Elster88 May 27 2009 05:59 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":su3m89ss]Elster, Seawolf and Steve J. Rogers just getting back from the Stadium now, probably. Perhaps they will join us here for the Mets game.[/quote:su3m89ss] Now that's just insulting. Elster88 May 27 2009 06:39 PM ="metirish":37124ase]Rogers took them to The Yankee Tavern for a few beers.[/quote:37124ase] The bartender kept trying to impress me by talking about all these awards his liquor won in the fifties back before they had draft beer. seawolf17 May 27 2009 06:59 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":2b607477]Elster, Seawolf and Steve J. Rogers just getting back from the Stadium now, probably. Perhaps they will join us here for the Mets game.[/quote:2b607477] Huh? John Cougar Lunchbucket May 27 2009 07:39 PM ="seawolf17":1hdt22ta]="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1hdt22ta]Elster, Seawolf and Steve J. Rogers just getting back from the Stadium now, probably. Perhaps they will join us here for the Mets game.[/quote:1hdt22ta] Huh?[/quote:1hdt22ta] Just busting yer Yankee-Lovin chops. Say hi to Hank for me. seawolf17 May 27 2009 07:44 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket":22bx65ep]="seawolf17":22bx65ep]="John Cougar Lunchbucket":22bx65ep]Elster, Seawolf and Steve J. Rogers just getting back from the Stadium now, probably. Perhaps they will join us here for the Mets game.[/quote:22bx65ep] Huh?[/quote:22bx65ep] Just busting yer Yankee-Lovin chops. Say hi to Hank for me.[/quote:22bx65ep] Double huh? duan Jun 08 2009 06:27 AM ="Willets Point":14bhkrrc]With all the homeruns flying out of the new ballpark, I suggest that we start calling in Yankee Stadium 3-D![/quote:14bhkrrc] has this calmed down at all? Frayed Knot Jun 08 2009 06:38 AM Slightly. 100 HRs in 28 games: 53 by Yanx, 47 by opponents. That's still a ton but, at 3.57/game, the pace is down from when it was closer to 4/per. And that's just lower enough to where they're no longer on pace to break the Coors Field 1999 mark. Frayed Knot Jun 08 2009 07:59 PM 5 more HRs tonight 105 in 29 games 3.62/game = 293 for the season Record is 303 in Coors Field 1999 Also, Teixeira, Cano, Damon & Cabrera are on pace for their best HR seasons of their career (by 8, 7, 10 & 9) Jeter & Swisher are on a pace to about equal their bests Leaving the only regulars who aren't on a personal record pace as the 35 y/o Matsui, plus ARod & Posada who both missed about half the season so far. soupcan Jun 09 2009 08:23 AM Makes me curious as to what our homer-weary boys will do this weekend at the band-box in the Bronx. HahnSolo Jun 09 2009 09:10 AM The Damon HR was comical last night. When he hit the ball, he put his head down in disgust that he had popped the ball up. It landed three rows over the wall. Didn't stop Sterling from calling it a "Johnny Rocket" I bet. soupcan Jun 09 2009 09:13 AM IT IS HIGH...up! IT IS...not so...FAR! However, IT....IS....GONE! LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 09 2009 09:33 AM ="HahnSolo":1nvohjim]The Damon HR was comical last night. When he hit the ball, he put his head down in disgust that he had popped the ball up. It landed three rows over the wall. Didn't stop Sterling from calling it a "Johnny Rocket" I bet.[/quote:1nvohjim] Was there last night. The Damon one was indeed ridiculous... but the Jeter one (just making the seats) and even the Swisher one (a well-struck but lazy fly that ended up carrying a shit-ton and landing past the first seating area in right-center) weren't far behind. By the third, the fans were standing up for any flyball into the gap. I'm thinking Churchy and Muffy-- hell, Cora, even-- should start aiming at the Subway sign during Phils BP... this weekend could make for some nice number inflation. Frayed Knot Jun 10 2009 06:27 AM Newsday: Fences are shorter http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/yankees/ny-spstad0611,0,3247160.story excerpts: The barrage of home runs at new Yankee Stadium is being caused by shorter dimensions, not weather, according to AccuWeather.com. The meteorology company said Tuesday that 20 of the 105 home runs hit at the $1.5 billion ballpark would not have gone out of the old Yankee Stadium. "For someone attending a game at the new Yankee Stadium or watching on TV, the size of the playing field appears to be the same," AccuWeather meteorologist Tim Buckley said in a statement Tuesday. {I guess he's got a reason to believe} "The dimensions at select corners of the field are identical -- and the posted numbers on the walls reflect that. However, detailed schematics of the park reveal some nuances that have significant implications." AccuWeather agreed with the conclusions of Greg Rybarczyk of hittrackeronline.com, who said in April that right field in the new ballpark was shorter. The Yankee insist that the dimensions are exactly the same. "The wall structure is slightly different than the old park," AccuWeather said. "The main difference involves curvature. The gentle curve from right field to center field seen in original Yankee Stadium has largely been eliminated at the new stadium ... due in large part to the presence of a manual scoreboard embedded within the wall. Losing this curvature has resulted in a right field that is shorter by four-to-five feet on average, but up to nine feet in spots. "Not only is the famed short porch even shorter in the new stadium, but the walls themselves are not as tall. In the old ballpark, the walls in right field stood at a height of approximately 10 feet. At this height, it was difficult for outfielders to scale the wall and attempt to rob a home run over the fence. Fast forward to 2009, and the outfielders have been scaling the wall without any trouble. The result? The new outfield fences only rise to a height of eight feet, adding to the ease hitting a home run to right." The new Yankee Stadium is on pace for 293 homers, 10 shy of the major league record hit at Denver's Coors Field in 1999 and an 83 percent increase from the 160 hit at original Yankee Stadium, last year. Frayed Knot Jun 18 2009 08:15 PM Today's (night's) 3-0 MFY loss to the Nats was, I believe, the first no-homer game in YSIII this season. seawolf17 Jun 18 2009 08:37 PM The MFYs had a little case of Metsflu tonight, getting shut out by a kid fresh off a high school ballfield somewhere. (A guy against whom, of course, the Mets bucked convention and beat recently.)

The comet never hit so I lost.

="Edgy DC":32orb9vd]Keith forgetting he's not in the dugout in uniform can be Keith at his best and his worst. I can't always make my mind up.[/quote:32orb9vd] No way, that's the goodest Keith. That's the "I'm sticking my tongue in Julia Louis-Dryfuss' mouth" Keith Hernandez. Edgy DC Jun 28 2009 07:57 PM Howie and Wayne more annoying than not tonight. Nymr83 Jun 28 2009 07:59 PM ="Edgy DC":2glyrs5t]Howie and Wayne more annoying than not tonight.[/quote:2glyrs5t] still beats espn's group Kong76 Jun 28 2009 07:59 PM How so? Can't be more annoying than Joe Morgan. At least tonight the Yankees are actually playing so he can talk about them without asking why is he talking about Derek Jeter and the Yankees. Edgy DC Jun 28 2009 07:59 PM Who is up in the pen? I don't know here. Edgy DC Jun 28 2009 08:15 PM Wow! Chrysler is making a model that makes 26 MPG! My heart is a-flutter! Kong76 Jun 28 2009 08:17 PM I think we were (are) in the wrong thread. Elster88 Jun 28 2009 08:51 PM ="smg58":khm9u9vu]="Edgy DC":khm9u9vu]I'll say this for Boston --- they do not take dramatic losses sitting down. A lot of jumping from the dugout. A lot of guys down there wanted to throttle someone. I'm hoping it's like the yard full of chihuahuas up the street --- they get so frustrated that they can't get at my dog when we go past that they all turn on each other.[/quote:khm9u9vu] I'm hoping they ultimately take it out on the Yankees.[/quote:khm9u9vu] I missed this post way back when. The mental image of Papelbon (after running up the steps and throwing his cap to the ground in what looked like a steroid-enhanced rage) turning, looking around, and ultimately knocking Pedroia to the ground and dry-humping him like a furious chihuahua is pretty funny. Edgy DC Jun 28 2009 08:57 PM Exactly like the chihuahuas. I didn't want to say explicitly.

="Fman99":1o06s1x0]I think they'll go 5-5. San Fran can't hit and LA is minus-Manny. I can only hope the Mets can put a better showing at Fenway than they did last time.[/quote:1o06s1x0] Right results, though I didn't expect them to be slapped around by the Dodgers the way they were.

What a fantastic game. Baseball at its best. (Also I won a bottle of booze in a bet with a coworker who is a Sox fan. The goodness continues...)

Hopefully some of them hit Yankee fans in the mouth.

" Mets reliever J.J. Putz is out indefinitely with neck stiffness. As of now he isn't headed to the disabled list, so consider him day-to-day." Why do they continue to play short-handed? Reyes can't play but he's also not DL'd. Church last year with the concussions, Delgado earlier this month, etc. It goes on and on. If a guy is hurt, for fuck's sake, put him on the DL and add someone to the roster that can contribute. This is a recurring theme of the Minaya tenure that drives me batty.