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Come on. Don't let Hernandez get out of this game unscarred.

Ceetar wrote: 5 pitch domination by Pelfrey. 1-2-3 7th. How many beers? Meanwhile, some bullpen blues and we go from up 4-2 to down 5-4. Let the starters ride.

I think those sites consider Mets who dress but don't play as non-canonical. That's the way we've been playing it here as well.

Well, thank you. I feel like I got to represent after all.

Vinny Rottino, put down that glove and grab a bat. You're Met #927.

Now that was a successful mound visit by Warthan.

Hairston hits a lot of foull homers, man.

Rallying in the fifth here by knocking the ball of Diamondback gloves.

A case could be made for always swapping out your fifth starter the day after his start. Rotate two or three guys into that spot throughout the year and always have an extra hitter or reliever available to you. Transferred To 60-Day Disabled List Demoted To BuffaloAdded To 40-Man Roster And Promoted From BuffaloStarting PitchersOutfielders =#0000FF]34 Mike Pelfrey DoB: 1/14/1984 =#0000FF]63 =#FF8000]Chris Schwinden DoB: 9/22/1986 =#0000FF]33 =#FF8000]Vinny Rottino DoB: 4/7/1980 2012 Mets (Orange Indicates Players Have Options) Starting PitchersRelief Pitchers =#0000FF]43 R.A. Dickey DoB: 10/29/1974 =#0000FF]35 =#FF8000]Dillon Gee DoB: 4/28/1986 =#0000FF]49 Jonathon Niese DoB: 10/27/1986 =#0000FF]57 Johan Santana DoB: 3/13/1979 =#0000FF]46 Manny Acosta DoB: 5/1/1981Relief Pitchers =#0000FF]47 Miguel Batista DoB: 2/19/1971 =#0000FF]40 Tim Byrdak DoB: 10/31/1973 =#0000FF]48 Frank Francisco DoB: 9/11/1979 =#0000FF]39 Bobby Parnell DoB: 9/8/1984 =#0000FF]52 Ram�n Ram�rez DoB:8/31/1981Relief Pitchers Catchers Infielders =#0000FF]60 John Rauch DoB:9/27/1978 =#0000FF]4 =#FF8000]Mike Nickeas DoB: 2/13/1983 =#0000FF]30 Josh Thole DoB: 4/28/1986 =#0000FF]29 =#FF8000]Ike Davis DoB: 3/22/1987 =#0000FF]28 Daniel Murphy DoB: 4/1/1985InfieldersOutfielders =#0000FF]11 Ruben Tejada DoB: 10/27/1989 =#0000FF]2 Justin Turner DoB: 11/23/1984 =#0000FF]1 =#FF8000]Jordany Valdespin DoB: 12/23/1987 =#0000FF]5 David Wright DoB: 12/20/1982 =#0000FF]23 =#FF8000]Mike Baxter DoB: 12/7/1984Outfielders =#0000FF]21 =#FF8000]Lucas Duda DoB: 2/3/1986 =#0000FF]12 Scott Hairston DoB: 5/25/1980 =#0000FF]9 =#FF8000]Kirk Nieuwenhuis DoB: 8/7/1987 =#0000FF]33 =#FF8000]Vinny Rottino DoB: 4/7/1980 =#0000FF]56 Andr�s Torres DoB:1/26/1978 Also on 40-Man Roster Starting Pitchers =#0000FF]75 =#FF8000]Jeurys Familia DoB: 10/10/1989 In Buffalo =#BF8040]. =#0000FF]53 =#FF8000]Jeremy Hefner DoB: 3/11/1981 In Buffalo =#BF8040]. =#0000FF]32 =#FF8000]Jennry Mejia DoB: 10/11/1989 In Buffalo =#FF0000]On DL =#0000FF]34 Mike Pelfrey DoB: 1/14/1984 =#FF0000]On 60-Day DL =#BF8040]. =#0000FF]63 =#FF8000]Chris Schwinden DoB: 9/22/1986 In Buffalo =#BF8040].Relief Pitchers Infielders =#0000FF]27 =#FF8000]Pedro Beato DoB: 10/27/1986 =#FF0000]On DL =#BF8040]. =#0000FF]77 D.J. Carrasco DoB: 4/12/1977 =#FF0000]On Rehab =#BF8040]. =#0000FF]73 =#FF8000]Robert Carson DoB: 1/23/1989 In Binghamton =#BF8040]. =#0000FF]13 Ronny Cede�o DoB: 2/2/1983 =#FF0000]On DL =#BF8040]. =#0000FF]71 =#FF8000]Wilmer Flores DoB: 8/6/1991 In St.Lucie =#BF8040].InfieldersOutfielders =#0000FF]74 =#FF8000]Reese Havens DoB: 10/20/1986 In Binghamton =#BF8040]. =#0000FF]65 =#FF8000]Zach Lutz DoB: 6/3/1986 =#0000FF]3 =#FF8000]Josh Satin DoB: 12/23/1984 In Buffalo =#0000FF]44 Jason Bay DoB: 9/20/1978 =#FF0000]On DL =#0000FF]76 =#FF8000]Juan Lagares DoB: 3/17/1989 In BinghamtonOutfielders =#0000FF]67 =#FF8000]Cesar Puello DoB: 4/1/1991 In St. Lucie Coaching Staff ManagerBench CoachBatting CoachPitching CoachThird Base Coach =#0000FF]10 Terry Collins DoB: 5/27/1949 =#0000FF]7 Bob Geren DoB: 9/22/1959 =#0000FF]51 Dave Hudgens DoB: 12/5/1956 =#0000FF]59 Dan Warthan DoB: 12/1/1952 =#0000FF]18 Tim Teufel DoB: 7/7/1958First Base CoachBullpen CoachBullpen CatchersHead Trainer =#0000FF]26 Tom Goodwin DoB: 8/27/1968 =#0000FF]25 Ricky Bones DoB: 4/7/1969 =#0000FF]78 Eric Langill DoB: 4/9/1979 =#0000FF]79 Dave Racaniello DoB: 10/15/1981 =#0000FF] Ray Ramirez =#BF8080].Assistant Trainer =#0000FF] Brian Chicklo

Bold move. Me like. I'm a righthanded slugger from Racine, Wisconsin I beat a body down like I'm Sidney Ponson And they call me up now to be a New York Met 'Cuz I can play all over'n'm a homerun threat I'll kill any Bill like I'm Tarantino And the girlies all cry that it's Vinny Rottino

I'm thinking 2012 is a legit team to compete and get excited for. The thread was started back in January. The impetus was Murphy's redundancy with the Mets' other assets. If he gets traded now, he could certainly bring better than a stopgap starter, but if he brings a better starter with a few years of controllability, that would slide Gee and (perhaps) Niese down a notch each, so great, and that pitcher would therefore obviate the supposed need for a fifth starter. Chris Young and/or Matt Harvey isn't/aren't needed until the next crisis, which there likely will be sooner, rather than later.

I don't think anybody is suggesting that he get shopped for a short-time stopgap.

Good luck, Arthur Rhodes.

Personally, I want Murphy around forever. He's this team in microcosm.

Buffalo Bisons in first place in the International League North at 16-11. Binghamton Mets in fourth place and five games out in the Eastern League East at 13-13. St. Lucie Mets in first place in the Florida State League South by nine games at 22-5. Savannah Sand Gnats in third place and three games out in the South Atlantic League South at 16-11. The Mets continue to have the best organizational record of any team in baseball. And they haven't even launched Brandon Nimmo yet.

Orioles DHs hitting: .236 / .320 / .326 // .646. Lookit what they got for depth.

Rivera hurt for the Yanks. Bailey hurt for Sawx. Farnsworth hurt for the Rays. Santos hurt for the Jays. Does that mean the Orioles with (looking him up...) Jim Johnson are the only team in the AL East that still have the closer they opened the season with active and healthy?

Or insist that legacies get grandfathered in so Cory Vaughn can inherit the number from Unky Mo.

On the other hand. This may have saved the Yankee the challenge of replacing a legend just when he was going to start declining anyhow. Robertson is exactly where Rivera was back in 1996 --- past 25 and still setting up for a vet he's consistently outperforming.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Old Hoss Radbourn ? @OldHossRadbourn Like M. Rivera, I too was forced to retire from base ball due to an injury acquired whilst shagging. Mine of course was syphilis. Wait. Have I missed this? Rivera hasn't come out and announced his retirement, has he, Hoss?

Missed a couple of these transactions. Maybe that's why Schwinden's been strugling. I never put him on the team. Promoted From Buffalo 4/27/2012Transferred From RotationDemoted To Binghamton 4/26/2012Starting PitchersRelief Pitchers =#0000FF]63 =#FF8000]Chris Schwinden DoB: 9/22/1986 =#0000FF]47 Miguel Batista DoB: 2/19/1971 =#0000FF]73 =#FF8000]Robert Carson DoB: 1/23/1989=#BF8040]. Demoted To Buffalo 4/30/2012=#BF8040]. Transferred From OutfieldActivated From Disabled List 4/30/2012InfieldersOutfielders =#0000FF]65 =#FF8000]Zach Lutz DoB: 6/3/1986 =#0000FF]1 =#FF8000]Jordany Valdespin DoB: 12/23/1987 =#0000FF]56 Andr�s Torres DoB:1/26/1978 2012 Mets (Orange Indicates Players Have Options) Starting Pitchers =#0000FF]43 R.A. Dickey DoB: 10/29/1974 =#0000FF]35 =#FF8000]Dillon Gee DoB: 4/28/1986 =#0000FF]49 Jonathon Niese DoB: 10/27/1986 =#0000FF]57 Johan Santana DoB: 3/13/1979 =#0000FF]63 =#FF8000]Chris Schwinden DoB: 9/22/1986Relief Pitchers =#0000FF]46 Manny Acosta DoB: 5/1/1981 =#0000FF]47 Miguel Batista DoB: 2/19/1971 =#0000FF]40 Tim Byrdak DoB: 10/31/1973 =#0000FF]48 Frank Francisco DoB: 9/11/1979 =#0000FF]39 Bobby Parnell DoB: 9/8/1984Relief Pitchers Catchers Infielders =#0000FF]52 Ram�n Ram�rez DoB:8/31/1981 =#0000FF]60 John Rauch DoB:9/27/1978 =#0000FF]4 =#FF8000]Mike Nickeas DoB: 2/13/1983 =#0000FF]30 Josh Thole DoB: 4/28/1986 =#0000FF]29 =#FF8000]Ike Davis DoB: 3/22/1987Infielders =#0000FF]28 Daniel Murphy DoB: 4/1/1985 =#0000FF]11 Ruben Tejada DoB: 10/27/1989 =#0000FF]2 Justin Turner DoB: 11/23/1984 =#0000FF]1 =#FF8000]Jordany Valdespin DoB: 12/23/1987 =#0000FF]5 David Wright DoB: 12/20/1982Outfielders =#0000FF]23 =#FF8000]Mike Baxter DoB: 12/7/1984 =#0000FF]21 =#FF8000]Lucas Duda DoB: 2/3/1986 =#0000FF]12 Scott Hairston DoB: 5/25/1980 =#0000FF]9 =#FF8000]Kirk Nieuwenhuis DoB: 8/7/1987 =#0000FF]56 Andr�s Torres DoB:1/26/1978 Also on 40-Man Roster Starting PitchersRelief Pitchers =#0000FF]75 =#FF8000]Jeurys Familia DoB: 10/10/1989 In Buffalo =#BF8040]. =#0000FF]53 =#FF8000]Jeremy Hefner DoB: 3/11/1981 In Buffalo =#BF8040]. =#0000FF]32 =#FF8000]Jennry Mejia DoB: 10/11/1989 In Buffalo =#FF0000]On DL =#0000FF]34 Mike Pelfrey DoB: 1/14/1984 =#FF0000]On DL =#BF8040]. =#0000FF]27 =#FF8000]Pedro Beato DoB: 10/27/1986 =#FF0000]On DL =#BF8040].Relief Pitchers Infielders =#0000FF]77 D.J. Carrasco DoB: 4/12/1977 =#FF0000]On Rehab =#BF8040]. =#0000FF]73 =#FF8000]Robert Carson DoB: 1/23/1989 In Binghamton =#BF8040]. =#0000FF]13 Ronny Cede�o DoB: 2/2/1983 =#FF0000]On DL =#BF8040]. =#0000FF]71 =#FF8000]Wilmer Flores DoB: 8/6/1991 In St.Lucie =#BF8040]. =#0000FF]74 =#FF8000]Reese Havens DoB: 10/20/1986 In Binghamton =#FF0000]On DLInfieldersOutfielders =#0000FF]65 =#FF8000]Zach Lutz DoB: 6/3/1986 =#0000FF]3 =#FF8000]Josh Satin DoB: 12/23/1984 In Buffalo =#0000FF]44 Jason Bay DoB: 9/20/1978 =#FF0000]On DL =#0000FF]76 =#FF8000]Juan Lagares DoB: 3/17/1989 In Binghamton =#0000FF]67 =#FF8000]Cesar Puello DoB: 4/1/1991 In St. Lucie Coaching Staff ManagerBench CoachBatting CoachPitching CoachThird Base Coach =#0000FF]10 Terry Collins DoB: 5/27/1949 =#0000FF]7 Bob Geren DoB: 9/22/1959 =#0000FF]51 Dave Hudgens DoB: 12/5/1956 =#0000FF]59 Dan Warthan DoB: 12/1/1952 =#0000FF]18 Tim Teufel DoB: 7/7/1958First Base CoachBullpen CoachBullpen CatchersHead Trainer =#0000FF]26 Tom Goodwin DoB: 8/27/1968 =#0000FF]25 Ricky Bones DoB: 4/7/1969 =#0000FF]78 Eric Langill DoB: 4/9/1979 =#0000FF]79 Dave Racaniello DoB: 10/15/1981 =#0000FF] Ray Ramirez =#BF8080].Assistant Trainer =#0000FF] Brian Chicklo

Bobby wasn't looking so super-solvent at divorce time two years ago. Granted, a story fed to the New York Post by an ex-wife and her lawyer = not the most balanced sourcing.

Ceetar wrote: Ceetar wrote: well, you have.. ? drawn conclusions. About what? The Constitution? Ceetar wrote: I'm not sure what you think i've concluded since there really isn't anything to conclude Whoah, that's heavy, man. You are so totally baked.

Ceetar wrote: well, you have.. ?

You ask, but you've already drawn your conclusions no matter which way I respond. I don't know how this keeps turning on the presumed character of the owners and operators of the Iron Triangle.